Grimoire gameplay and hints thread

[Lady_Error]

Okay, maybe I'm missing something, but how do you use the teleport monolith in Samhain again? I lit the four orbs and try using the usual teleport item, but nothing happens. I remember that it worked before somehow.

 

[Lady_Error]

And another one: Can't get past the entrance gate in Gideon. Where do you get the key?

 

[mondblut]

So apparently there are now something like "Premium NPC's" who will refuse to join if you have other NPC's - and "Normal NPC's" who don't mind.

Ego sword and ego axe always were like that.

 

[Gunnar]

How do you rescue the princess? I've killed the boss and now she's wandering around begging to be rescued. She won't join my party and I can't seem to complete the rescue in any way. I've spoken to her and the Khan several times, and gone over every keyword for both of them.

 

[Dorateen]

how do you use the teleport monolith in Samhain again?

You would need the

Spoiler

moongate crystal

to activate it.

 

[Gunnar]

How do you rescue the princess? I've killed the boss and now she's wandering around begging to be rescued. She won't join my party and I can't seem to complete the rescue in any way. I've spoken to her and the Khan several times, and gone over every keyword for both of them.

She joined my party without any issue. Perhaps you have one of those "premium NPC's" with you? Try dismissing them and then recruiting the princess.

I don't have any NPCs in my party. Perhaps it's a bug? Is recruiting her the only way to resolve this quest? This is the only quest in the game I really dislike, nothing makes sense, nobody will cooperate with me yet they all claim they want my help? Morraha should just tell you what the password is and the princess should just say thank you for rescuing me and then go home, what is the purpose of having to remove one of your party members, bring the princess home, then run back to wherever your party member went to re-recruit them? It's just tedious running around to finish a quest you already completed even if it works properly.

 

[Zep Zepo]

ITT

Sperglings trying to make sense of a gigantic spergs vidya game.

It's hilarious.

Really.

Zep--

 

[Dorateen]

Is recruiting her the only way to resolve this quest?

Yes. This is an escort mission. For the purposes of her safety, you must dismiss a party member and have Dahlia join and bring her to the palace.

 

[mondblut]

Is recruiting her the only way to resolve this quest?

Yes. This is an escort mission. For the purposes of her safety, you must dismiss a party member and have Dahlia join and bring her to the palace.

That's not how it worked originally. She just went home on her own (or rather, she remained around IIRC, but killing the bosses sufficed). Did you kill both Shelach and the Psychopomp?

 

[Dorateen]

Is recruiting her the only way to resolve this quest?

Yes. This is an escort mission. For the purposes of her safety, you must dismiss a party member and have Dahlia join and bring her to the palace.

That's not how it worked originally. She just went home on her own (or rather, she remained around IIRC, but killing the bosses sufficed). Did you kill both Shelach and the Psychopomp?

I actually did skullheim first before even going to Kublai Axis and meeting the Khan Raji. Killed Shelach and Psychopomp and "rescued" the princess. But left her waiting in the cell. I had to come back later, dismiss a party member and recruit Dahlia to physically take her back to the palace.

Based on what Gunnar said, it describes the experience I had as well, that the NPC had to be in the party in order to complete the quest. Might have been something Cleve changed in one of the updates last year, because I thought I read something about Dahlia not reappearing for some people.

 

[Lady_Error]

how do you use the teleport monolith in Samhain again?

You would need the

Spoiler

moongate crystal

to activate it.

Well, that's the usual teleport item you use on monoliths everywhere, but it doesn't work on the Samhain Monolith.

A question about the Tower of Knossos: I got the hidden blade, but using it on the two spiderwebs doesn't seem to work?

EDIT: Never mind, had to sleep at the monolith first.

 

[Gunnar]

Is recruiting her the only way to resolve this quest?

Yes. This is an escort mission. For the purposes of her safety, you must dismiss a party member and have Dahlia join and bring her to the palace.

That's not how it worked originally. She just went home on her own (or rather, she remained around IIRC, but killing the bosses sufficed). Did you kill both Shelach and the Psychopomp?

Yeah. The funny thing is I went back to talk to Morraha and according to her the princess has been rescued and is back home.

I stumbled upon the artsy ending while exploring. It's interesting but not a particularly satisfying ending, I'm going to keep going and see what else I can figure out. Lots of password places I can't get into. Can anyone give me a hint about where to find the name of the genie?

Nobody knows. Cleve said that the name and the codes for the wishes can be found with Mindread - the question is whose mind should be read. The Djinn is blank.

People found the name in the resource files, but not in the game itself AFAIK.

I found a thing about a genies name in the chambers below the palace but you need Ancient History to read it and I don't have anyone with that skill.

 

[Lady_Error]

Does anyone remember how to access the Spiral Deathtrap through the Hold of Knossos? I already got the Knossos tablet itself, slept in the place with the evil face flower, etc. Also put some stuff on the pressure plate there, but the gate remains closed.

EDIT: Okay, I guess I closed the pit too early and cannot get to Spiral Deathtrap. Looks like there is only a normal loot chest there that I miss out on anyway. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1107532654

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I don't have any NPCs in my party. Perhaps it's a bug? Is recruiting her the only way to resolve this quest? This is the only quest in the game I really dislike, nothing makes sense, nobody will cooperate with me yet they all claim they want my help? Morraha should just tell you what the password is and the princess should just say thank you for rescuing me and then go home, what is the purpose of having to remove one of your party members, bring the princess home, then run back to wherever your party member went to re-recruit them? It's just tedious running around to finish a quest you already completed even if it works properly.

That's not how it worked originally. She just went home on her own (or rather, she remained around IIRC, but killing the bosses sufficed). Did you kill both Shelach and the Psychopomp?

When I completed Grimoire in 2017, the only means of rescuing Princess Dahlia was to remove a party member, recruit her, and run back to the Khan with Dahlia as a party member. This was the only time in the game that I needed to violate my "no NPC party members" rule. Though, of course, it's possible that Cleve had changed the way this works from the pre-release version or that it has since been changed for Grimoire v2.

 

[Lady_Error]

- How do you get into the Evil Place at midnight in the Raven Wildes?

The Raven Wildes place:

Spoiler

You need to explore the Necropolis. One of the tombs (little square areas down below with the demon) there has the password. Also, quite conveniently, just before going to the Wildes, I learned that if you click the word Grimoire on the main screen, you get an overview of your progress AND what time it is. So you come to the hut with the password, rest in front of it until it's midnight, then go in.

Spoiler

Which Necropolis are you talking about? The Dark Warren level underneath Raven Wildes?

 

[Lady_Error]

Anyone found the password for the Theosophist Lodge in the Gideon Maze? Apparently it was added in V2 - doesn't appear on older map screenshots.

 

[Gunnar]

Anyone found the password for the Theosophist Lodge in the Gideon Maze? Apparently it was added in V2 - doesn't appear on older map screenshots.

You get it when you acquire the unicorn statue. The password is

Spoiler

ATMA VIDYA

 

[Sonic Titan]

So no luck so far in getting one of my party members to scribe ‘Raise Dead’. At 0-5 inscription is it even possible to “eventually” learn the spell?

The Bronze Cauldron NPC has a scroll of raise dead but it’s out of my price range right now.

I’m really not trying to lose my Aeorb Sage.

 

[Haba]

Even with 100 inscription, it still takes me 10-20 tries to learn a scribe 90+ spell. I'm *highly* doubtful that you'll be able to scribe something while being significantly below the scribe limit.

But are you still gaining inscription points while failing to scribe it? Because in that case...

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Is recruiting her the only way to resolve this quest?

Yes. This is an escort mission. For the purposes of her safety, you must dismiss a party member and have Dahlia join and bring her to the palace.

That's not how it worked originally. She just went home on her own (or rather, she remained around IIRC, but killing the bosses sufficed). Did you kill both Shelach and the Psychopomp?

Yeah. The funny thing is I went back to talk to Morraha and according to her the princess has been rescued and is back home.

I stumbled upon the artsy ending while exploring. It's interesting but not a particularly satisfying ending, I'm going to keep going and see what else I can figure out. Lots of password places I can't get into. Can anyone give me a hint about where to find the name of the genie?

Nobody knows. Cleve said that the name and the codes for the wishes can be found with Mindread - the question is whose mind should be read. The Djinn is blank.

People found the name in the resource files, but not in the game itself AFAIK.

I found a thing about a genies name in the chambers below the palace but you need Ancient History to read it and I don't have anyone with that skill.

That sounds like working as designed. If you don't recruit Morraha right away, she returns to the palace on her own. That's good that Morraha is reporting her as back at the Imperial Palace now, it means she should be encountered there. Assume while you were fighting your way back out of Samhain the Princess stealthed out on her own.

The artsy ending is purely there for the uniqueness. Not a real ending or conclusion, just something really off the wall I always wanted to put into the game. A trillion years in the future, all these problems will be over one way or another.

The name of the genie should now be in three different places. You're bound to find one of them. As always, a good sage in invaluable.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Even with 100 inscription, it still takes me 10-20 tries to learn a scribe 90+ spell. I'm *highly* doubtful that you'll be able to scribe something while being significantly below the scribe limit.

But are you still gaining inscription points while failing to scribe it? Because in that case...

There are also rings and magic items that will bump you up to very high scribe skill.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Does anyone remember how to access the Spiral Deathtrap through the Hold of Knossos? I already got the Knossos tablet itself, slept in the place with the evil face flower, etc. Also put some stuff on the pressure plate there, but the gate remains closed.

EDIT: Okay, I guess I closed the pit too early and cannot get to Spiral Deathtrap. Looks like there is only a normal loot chest there that I miss out on anyway. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1107532654

This is all as designed behavior but I think you have raised a good point, the treasure may be kind of mediocre having gone through the whole Spiral Deathtrap. I assumed 95% of players will press the button before they fall down that pit. So I wanted the treasure in Spiral Deathtrap to be unique. May edit this before next update.

 

[Sonic Titan]

Even with 100 inscription, it still takes me 10-20 tries to learn a scribe 90+ spell. I'm *highly* doubtful that you'll be able to scribe something while being significantly below the scribe limit.

But are you still gaining inscription points while failing to scribe it? Because in that case...

I haven’t gained a single inscription skill point at all while failing to learn Raise Dead.

 

[Lady_Error]

You could recruit an NPC and come back to get the Aeorb when you have a Raise Dead item - there are quite a lot of them.

 

[Sonic Titan]

I was actually thinking about that. Dismissed party members head back to the Shrine of the Raptor iirc? I wonder if that also applies to dead party members.