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Horizon Forbidden West - sequel to Hoizon Zero Dawn - coming to PC on March 21st

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A-loy. The A stands for Adipose.

I wonder if it will be a part of the story, she got fat due to the horrors she's experienced, or will they just retcon her into always having been a fatty? For example if you see any flashbacks/references to the first game.

And I'm sure you will see more of Elizabeth Sobek. Since Aloy is her clone, will they make Elizabeth a fatass too, because if not it will be pretty obvious.
 

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Bought it because our whole family enjoyed the first one and this seems like more of the same (and my son was so hyped that he paid half the price to get the game early). Wife will probably start playing today and son tomorrow. I still have a few hours left in Ghost of Tsushima, so maybe next week for me.
 

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Why did they make her so fucking fat??
I am kinda bothered with all the wokeness nowadays, so it may sound strange, but I do welcome a girl protagonist that looks... well... kinda normal. And not totally-hentai-hot for a change.

I suppose you'd welcome the latter? No argument there, totally-hentai-hot will always be cool :3
 

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Fat slag.

Couldn't give a toss though tbh. The original was utter garbage, proper bloated popamole wank masquerading as a deep game and should have been 5-10 hours long at the most, so I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole anyway.
 

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Fat slag.

Couldn't give a toss though tbh. The original was utter garbage, proper bloated popamole wank masquerading as a deep game and should have been 5-10 hours long at the most, so I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole anyway.
Being on the opposite side, I am intriqued. To put things into perspective, what do you find a quality-narrative game(s) for example?
 

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Seems like a good review >>>


Haha, he's impressed by combat tactics which have been common since 80's & 90's SHMUPS like they're revolutionary.

Great to see the open word marker compass return to totally kill the exploration elements too lol.

The Witcher 3 was trash, and this reviewer seems to be one of the few who hasn't figured that out yet. Gamers who are clueless about games shouldn't review them.
 

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Fat slag.

Couldn't give a toss though tbh. The original was utter garbage, proper bloated popamole wank masquerading as a deep game and should have been 5-10 hours long at the most, so I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole anyway.
Being on the opposite side, I am intriqued. To put things into perspective, what do you find a quality-narrative game(s) for example?

If you want action and a proper story to back it up, Deus Ex.

These trash open world games are bullshit. The Witcher 3 had more in common with GTA than an RPG.

Honestly if you're after an open world jolly with a great story Saints Row 4 is king. At least it knows it's not an RPG, and has a laugh with what it is. Seeing these other games trying to disguise repetitive junk tasks as "quests" or "hunts" etc. is laughable. Saints Row 4 says "we're gonna take the piss out of all that, and give you a game to nob about on", which works.
 

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Eh, Saint's Row 3 is better. Saints Row 4 had an introductory sequence that went on for too long. I found it hard starting another playthrough of it.
Same issue I have with Bethesda Fallout games, really.

But yeah, this open world fad is really banal. It's basically the harem isekai of gaming.
 
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Why did they make her so fucking fat??
I am kinda bothered with all the wokeness nowadays, so it may sound strange, but I do welcome a girl protagonist that looks... well... kinda normal. And not totally-hentai-hot for a change.

I suppose you'd welcome the latter? No argument there, totally-hentai-hot will always be cool :3
She doesn't look normal though. Most girls don't look like that.
 

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Fat slag.

Couldn't give a toss though tbh. The original was utter garbage, proper bloated popamole wank masquerading as a deep game and should have been 5-10 hours long at the most, so I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole anyway.
Being on the opposite side, I am intriqued. To put things into perspective, what do you find a quality-narrative game(s) for example?

If you want action and a proper story to back it up, Deus Ex.

These trash open world games are bullshit. The Witcher 3 had more in common with GTA than an RPG.

Honestly if you're after an open world jolly with a great story Saints Row 4 is king. At least it knows it's not an RPG, and has a laugh with what it is. Seeing these other games trying to disguise repetitive junk tasks as "quests" or "hunts" etc. is laughable. Saints Row 4 says "we're gonna take the piss out of all that, and give you a game to nob about on", which works.
I see. Well, Deus Ex is a masterpiece of masterpieces, of that is no doubt. That's why your answer makes me sad. I must dissagree. Although failing at some approaches or being bloated, as you yourself say, what W3 and Horizon excell at are the stories and the characters. How they engage the player to care about what is going to happen, where and to whom. And last but not least, the fact the player can create wildly different outcomes.
 
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Fat slag.

Couldn't give a toss though tbh. The original was utter garbage, proper bloated popamole wank masquerading as a deep game and should have been 5-10 hours long at the most, so I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole anyway.
Being on the opposite side, I am intriqued. To put things into perspective, what do you find a quality-narrative game(s) for example?

If you want action and a proper story to back it up, Deus Ex.

These trash open world games are bullshit. The Witcher 3 had more in common with GTA than an RPG.

Honestly if you're after an open world jolly with a great story Saints Row 4 is king. At least it knows it's not an RPG, and has a laugh with what it is. Seeing these other games trying to disguise repetitive junk tasks as "quests" or "hunts" etc. is laughable. Saints Row 4 says "we're gonna take the piss out of all that, and give you a game to nob about on", which works.
I see. Well, Deus Ex is a masterpiece of masterpieces, of that is no doubt. That's why your answer makes me sad. I must dissagree. Although failing at some approaches or being bloated, as you yourself say, what W3 and Horizon excell at are the stories and the characters. How they engage the player to care about what is going to happen, where and to whom. And last but not least, the fact the player can create wildly different outcomes.

That's a good balance post chap, but pacing is as a big a part of storytelling to me as the story itself. For events to hold dramatic impact stories have to be structured well, and thus in games the game around it too.

For example, it's no good telling me about The Wild Hunt in a game called "The Wild Hunt", setting up a main quest to protect your daughter from The Wild Hunt, and then totally forgetting about the Wild Hunt for 90% of a 100 odd hour journey, whilst not really developing any of the characters in the Wild Hunt during that time either. That's not good storytelling, and thus not a good story.

I didn't play HZD long enough to comment on the story though. The game was just awful, and the world felt incredibly repetitive. I ragged in after around 7 hours, and just have a bee in my bonnet about these bullshit open world games in general. Most are utter trash.

Like I say in my above post, the reviewer gets excited about HZD2 implementing gameplay elements which have been around since 80's & 90's SHMUPS. That kind of hype is just piss funny.
 
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Why did they make her so fucking fat??
I am kinda bothered with all the wokeness nowadays, so it may sound strange, but I do welcome a girl protagonist that looks... well... kinda normal. And not totally-hentai-hot for a change.

I suppose you'd welcome the latter? No argument there, totally-hentai-hot will always be cool :3
Fat isn't normal you obese cow.
 

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As I'm not playing this anytime soon, as I have an Xbox, I went and checked the story on YouTube... Fuck me they dropped the ball

Immortal space billionaires return to earth and want our shit because Alexa gained consciousness and is very pissed at having to do what daddy bezos tells it
 

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Fat slag.

Couldn't give a toss though tbh. The original was utter garbage, proper bloated popamole wank masquerading as a deep game and should have been 5-10 hours long at the most, so I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole anyway.
Being on the opposite side, I am intriqued. To put things into perspective, what do you find a quality-narrative game(s) for example?

If you want action and a proper story to back it up, Deus Ex.

These trash open world games are bullshit. The Witcher 3 had more in common with GTA than an RPG.

Honestly if you're after an open world jolly with a great story Saints Row 4 is king. At least it knows it's not an RPG, and has a laugh with what it is. Seeing these other games trying to disguise repetitive junk tasks as "quests" or "hunts" etc. is laughable. Saints Row 4 says "we're gonna take the piss out of all that, and give you a game to nob about on", which works.
I see. Well, Deus Ex is a masterpiece of masterpieces, of that is no doubt. That's why your answer makes me sad. I must dissagree. Although failing at some approaches or being bloated, as you yourself say, what W3 and Horizon excell at are the stories and the characters. How they engage the player to care about what is going to happen, where and to whom. And last but not least, the fact the player can create wildly different outcomes.

That's a good balance post chap, but pacing is as a big a part of storytelling to me as the story itself. For events to hold dramatic impact stories have to be structured well, and thus in games the game around it.

For example, it's no good telling me about The Wild Hunt in a game called "The Wild Hunt", setting up a main quest to protect your daughter from The Wild Hunt, and then totally forgetting about the Wild Hunt for 90% of the journey whilst not really developing any of the characters in the Wild Hunt during that time either. That's not good storytelling, and thus not a good story.

I didn't play HZD long enough to comment on the story though. The game was just awful, and the world felt incredibly repetitive. I ragged in after around 7 hours, and just have a bee in my bonnet about these bullshit open world games in general. Most are utter trash.

Like I say in my above post, the reviewer gets excited about HZD2 implementing gameplay elements which have been around since 80's & 90's SHMUPS. That kind of hype is just piss funny.
I'd take my mango for the 1547x time, and still be excited about it, but ok, I get your point.
 

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Is anyone actually playing it? How is the writing compared to the first one?
No Gonzalez so I'm sure this one is even worse. I looked up a synopsis and the plot itself was predictably stupid.
 

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Is anyone actually playing it? How is the writing compared to the first one?
No Gonzalez so I'm sure this one is even worse. I looked up a synopsis and the plot itself was predictably stupid.
Plot can be something a story is built upon, true. But in general, it is the least important part in telling a(ny) story.

Great plot will not save a poor telling.
Good telling will make you forget there was a poor plot.

Mynd you.
 

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Oh look, another game nobody with any brain cares about, that isn't even an RPG, that turned out shit like everyone predicted, that got shilled by the usual suspect.
 

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Oh look, another game nobody with any brain cares about, that isn't even an RPG, that turned out shit like everyone predicted, that got shilled by the usual suspect.
Bah, your sexlife is something shilled that nobody cares about :D
 
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