How would you rate Pillars of Eternity?

[Mareus]

Wow. So this is another game that basically sucks in every respect (most threads here are generally negative about encounter design, story, setting, writing, voice acting, combat, balance, engagement, itemization, music and so on) but still gets 9//10 from the Codex. Makes no sense at all. It's like Divinity Original Sin all over again. I'm beginning to think these forums have turned into some sort of center for retarded lurkers.

You are confusing constructive criticism with hate.
Game has ton of problems mechanicaly. But it is normal as it is their first iteration of new game.
Same with D:OS. Game also has ton of problem but it is at the same time huge incline.

And there is also saying that nothing is perfect. But trying to achieve perfection is what devides shitty devs from good ones.

After all criticism Obsidian can take it into account and revise their mechanics and iterate. By the time PoE2 launches it will have one of best systems ever if they take criticism into account.

This! I mean, I complained about certain retarded elements in PoE and DOS as well. Still, my complaints don't change the fact that in the last 2 years we have witnessed a huge incline. Hopefully the devs understand the difference between bitching and constructive criticism, which if they take into account will be accompanied with some new classics being made. Hell, I already consider DOS, Shadowrun: Dragonfall and Wasteland 2 classics, even though all of these games fall short in certain aspects. Whether or not PoE joins my list of new classics remains to be seen, but in all honesty the first few hours have not filled me with optimism.

 

[adddeed]

Wow. So this is another game that basically sucks in every respect (most threads here are generally negative about encounter design, story, setting, writing, voice acting, combat, balance, engagement, itemization, music and so on) but still gets 9//10 from the Codex. Makes no sense at all. It's like Divinity Original Sin all over again. I'm beginning to think these forums have turned into some sort of center for retarded lurkers.

What are you on about? Most posts are positive, with some knuckleheads like you nitpicking everything of course. Game is superb.

 

[rezaf]

Decent review, some good points, some funny shit (like not knowing about backer NPCs).

Heh, I learned about this since as I've been reading up on things a bit, but I DID mention right away that I went in blind.

Frankly, as a non-backer, I thought these NPCs and those tons and tons of inscription plates with all the backer comments were bad for the game, but then again, you CAN ignore them quite easily. As you wrote, though, funny as it may be not knowing about the backer NPCs, if you play the game without this knowledge, that stuff is "wtf?"-territory. They should've labeled that stuff clearly with a "backer fanservice" badge or something leading to a explanation in the ingame manual.
In the end, it's a non-issue, though.

Wow. So this is another game that basically sucks in every respect (most threads here are generally negative about encounter design, story, setting, writing, voice acting, combat, balance, engagement, itemization, music and so on) but still gets 9//10 from the Codex. Makes no sense at all. It's like Divinity Original Sin all over again. I'm beginning to think these forums have turned into some sort of center for retarded lurkers.

I can't be sure about you guys, but I'll definately rant more about little things that annoy me in a game I otherwise think is excellent than I'll rant about a game I consider deeply flawed to begin with...

 

[Branm]

Wow. So this is another game that basically sucks in every respect (most threads here are generally negative about encounter design, story, setting, writing, voice acting, combat, balance, engagement, itemization, music and so on) but still gets 9//10 from the Codex. Makes no sense at all. It's like Divinity Original Sin all over again. I'm beginning to think these forums have turned into some sort of center for retarded lurkers.

What are you on about? Most posts are positive, with some knuckleheads like you nitpicking everything of course. Game is superb.

This...the dude obviously has issues with reading comprehension. I'm 42 hours in and I'm enjoying myself

 

[Ninjerk]

Wow. So this is another game that basically sucks in every respect (most threads here are generally negative about encounter design, story, setting, writing, voice acting, combat, balance, engagement, itemization, music and so on) but still gets 9//10 from the Codex. Makes no sense at all. It's like Divinity Original Sin all over again. I'm beginning to think these forums have turned into some sort of center for retarded lurkers.

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/underwhelmed-by-fallout.96549/

RPG's progressed a lot in the games after Fallout. Fallout 2, Planescape Torment and Arcanum are far superior games that took the concepts pioneered by Fallout and actually put them to good use. Honestly I don't think that Fallout is a bad game.... It's just a very sad one. It was of course a trailblazer but the truth is it really can't compete with the serious incline that followed it. It's funny that lot's of people complain about that thread, but if you read through it, no one was actually able to address or rebut any of my complaints, they just bitched about the fact that I had complaints in the first place, as if the game is some sort of sacred cow.

Planescape Torment and Arcanum are superior games, but Fallout 2, while expanding on the mechanics provided, took a nice steamy dump all over the setting and it's writing was a departure (not an improvement upon) the original. But whatever, that's just my opinion, the bolded is bullshit. There's 33 pages of discussion there ranging from agreement to disagreement to you're a faggot.

 

[Broseph]

Fallout 2 is a much better game than Arcanum because it's actually fun to play. Personally, I think Arcanum is shit and that VTMB is the only really good game Troika ever made. The Codex doesn't have sacred cows. PST is the closest but even then there are some mondblutians who outright hate it.

 

[Ninjerk]

And actually, in retrospect, I don't know that it's correct to say PST is a superior game to Fallout.

 

[Kel]

Wow. So this is another game that basically sucks in every respect (most threads here are generally negative about encounter design, story, setting, writing, voice acting, combat, balance, engagement, itemization, music and so on) but still gets 9//10 from the Codex. Makes no sense at all. It's like Divinity Original Sin all over again. I'm beginning to think these forums have turned into some sort of center for retarded lurkers.

No I think the consensus is that Fenstermaker took a steaming dump on pacing and narrative design, while the game itself is quite good. If Avellone were responsible for the narrative design of this game, it would be GOAT in many respects.

A game where you have the golden boys of most Black Isle / Troika games, and then they leave the real important thing, the story pacing in the hands of some glorified junior designer.

 

[Jaesun]

Holy epic butthurt batman

 

[Broseph]

Show us on the doll where Eric Fenstermaker touched you.

 

[Kel]

Show us on the doll where Eric Fenstermaker touched you.

On my wee wee, right where ACT III transitions into a 5 minute ACT IV during a hurried pit falling choose your own adventure.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Funny how often people forget how quickly PS:T devolves into a steaming pile of shit after a glorious beginning.

 

[Bubbles]

Funny how often people forget how quickly PS:T devolves into a steaming pile of shit after a glorious beginning.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

If you think the last third of the game is *not* a steaming pile of shit, see yourself out homeskillet.

 

[dragonul09]

Look at them white knights trying to protect their princess,how cute.Aren't you people ashamed, gang banging the poor man for having valid complaints ?
The game is not good,it's not what they promised us ''reactivity,C&C,good writing,non-linear storyline'' where at dude? I can't find them in the game guis, or maybe they will be patched in the future ,please tell my guis ,where are they? Stop praising this game so much and tell them the truth ,maybe next time they will wake the fuck up and create something better for a change.

 

[Bleed the Man]

If you think the last third of the game is *not* a steaming pile of shit, see yourself out homeskillet.

PS:T devolves into a steaming pile of shit after a glorious beginning.

Quite a jump there, dude.

And yes, the last third is weak gameplay-wise, but the story and dialogues are still strong.

 

[Athelas]

If you think the last third of the game is *not* a steaming pile of shit, see yourself out homeskillet.

The final part of PS:T is excellent. The quality drop happens after leaving Ravel's maze, but picks up again with the Fortress of Regrets.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Quite a jump there, dude.

I elaborated.

 

[Kel]

In my mind I weirdly view Torment as longer than Pillars... why is this happening?

 

[dragonul09]

Quite a jump there, dude.

I elaborated.

Planescape was fulfilling till the end,the only bad part of the game is that it has an ending.Dammit i miss my funny flying fucking skull...

 

[Ninjerk]

IDK, the mob crawl after Sigil was pretty bad.

 

[J_C]

Funny how often people forget how quickly PS:T devolves into a steaming pile of shit after a glorious beginning.

Hey boy! Hey! Fuck you!

 

[Orma]

 

[adddeed]

If you think the last third of the game is *not* a steaming pile of shit, see yourself out homeskillet.

You're a steaming pile of shit. Go back to Skyrim.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

No, please, tell me how a game with shit combat isn't ruined when the game becomes combat-centric.

Go back to Skyrim.

You don't know what you don't even know.