I can't think of a single RPG that depicts sex in a healthy way.

[Tyranicon]

Most gamedevs are too cowardly to go into porndev, which is arguably the most honest and least creatively bankrupt niche in the industry right now. Before you start looking for spoilers with trollfaces hidden behind them, consider the following.

Pros of being a pornlord:

• You're strictly dealing with an adult audience (allegedly). No more pandering to kids and their idiocy, you don't have to do a single thing to make your games accessible for children.
• You get to include as many naked women with giant tits in your game as you want. If someone tries to say anything about how many buxom redheads you have, cancel them! That's kinkshaming.
• Speaking of, you get paid to popularize your own vile fetishes. That's pretty cool.
• No more sucking streamer dick so you can market your games. You no longer have to worry about streamers or 'tubers, or journos, because they will all ignore you. And your games won't have the utter decline that comes from catering to these parasites.
• Don't have to worry about publishers or anyone else in the industry. Flip everyone the bird.
• In fact, alienate unwanted friends and family by sharing your current project with them.
• Your games don't really have to be more than a visual novel with badly animated, disgustingly uncanny DAZ models. Doing more than that is just being a tryhard.
• If for whatever reason you ever get critical acclaim, you get to dunk on regular gamedevs by saying your shitty porn games outperformed theirs.
• You don't have to finish development at all. Just set up a Patreon and release an update every three months to change the title logo.
• There's so much degeneracy in modern games you can label yourself as a bastion of heterosexual male tastes.
• You get to sidestep any criticism or current day tomfoolery with the magic words "I just make porn games bro."
• Your cock will grow at least 3 inches permanently from being rock hard all day.
• You get to be a complete fucking troll.
• Add fucking attribute checks to sex, because why fucking not? Lean into the absurdism that is our world.

Spoiler

Cocks for the cock god, I wish there were more serious RPG porn devs.

Also

Spoiler

 

[mediocrepoet]

I think a great compromise would be having loads of nude babes in the games, but then they remove the romances which are actually more gay than any of the famous gay sex scenes that you can see in video games. Then everyone is happy, or at least I am.

Seriously. Nothing gets my motor running like all naked elf sluts all the time.

Sorry if this offends any of you pearl clutching incels.

Spoiler

 

[NecroLord]

Most gamedevs are too cowardly to go into porndev, which is arguably the most honest and least creatively bankrupt niche in the industry right now. Before you start looking for spoilers with trollfaces hidden behind them, consider the following.

Pros of being a pornlord:

• You're strictly dealing with an adult audience (allegedly). No more pandering to kids and their idiocy, you don't have to do a single thing to make your games accessible for children.
• You get to include as many naked women with giant tits in your game as you want. If someone tries to say anything about how many buxom redheads you have, cancel them! That's kinkshaming.
• Speaking of, you get paid to popularize your own vile fetishes. That's pretty cool.
• No more sucking streamer dick so you can market your games. You no longer have to worry about streamers or 'tubers, or journos, because they will all ignore you. And your games won't have the utter decline that comes from catering to these parasites.
• Don't have to worry about publishers or anyone else in the industry. Flip everyone the bird.
• In fact, alienate unwanted friends and family by sharing your current project with them.
• Your games don't really have to be more than a visual novel with badly animated, disgustingly uncanny DAZ models. Doing more than that is just being a tryhard.
• If for whatever reason you ever get critical acclaim, you get to dunk on regular gamedevs by saying your shitty porn games outperformed theirs.
• You don't have to finish development at all. Just set up a Patreon and release an update every three months to change the title logo.
• There's so much degeneracy in modern games you can label yourself as a bastion of heterosexual male tastes.
• You get to sidestep any criticism or current day tomfoolery with the magic words "I just make porn games bro."
• Your cock will grow at least 3 inches permanently from being rock hard all day.
• You get to be a complete fucking troll.
• Add fucking attribute checks to sex, because why fucking not? Lean into the absurdism that is our world.

Spoiler

Cocks for the cock god, I wish there were more serious RPG porn devs.

Also

Spoiler

Waiting for you to create the Deus Ex of porn gaming.

 

[Skinwalker]

I agree, sex has no place in video games. And real life.

 

[Eirinjas]

I just want RPGs to be sexless.

And perhaps violenceless?

Cool down Disco Elysium, this ain't about you.

It's not that.

I simply mock Ameritard approach according to which a game can have all the gore in the world and its ok, but a mere suggestion of sex is a big no no.

I think it was GRRM who said that a penis entering vagina is much more natural than an axe entering skull. Hence American priorities in this regard are pretty fucked up.

Alas, what can you expect from a country set up by guys calling themselves 'puritans'.

Here in Europe we've got a much more healthy approach.

Btw, there's plenty of violence in DE. You can even shoot a child, which was unheard of in gaming since the early Fallouts.

Are you really going to use the author of pedo filth as an authority on questions of moral propriety?

 

[Eirinjas]

I can't think of a single RPG that depicts sex in a healthy way. It's never about two people in a committed relationship reproducing; it's either done for adolescent giggles or it's pornography for lonely people.

Violence, on the other hand, is usually depicted in a healthy way. It's shown as heroes stepping forth to rid the world of monsters and save the day. If we go with the idea that media influences human behaviour, this is actually behaviour that we want to promote and encourage.

Baldurs Gate 2 allows you to romance Viconia and after you've slung one up her you can convince her to change her ways (which changes her alignment to neutral, if IIRC). I would argue that is not only not pornography, but it is character redemption. That is probably the best memory I have playing that game.

 

[Eirinjas]

Healthy sex is boring. Why would it be included in any game?

Sex could be used to move the plot along. Whether any game exists that actually does that, I have no idea. It would be great to see it used for branching questlines where sex opens up opportunities that are fundamentally optional (like Trials of the Luremaster or Tales of the Sword Coast).

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Or there's Rimworld, where colonists with healthy sex lives get mood buffs, but they can get jealous, cheat, fight, break up, commit suicide, etc.

 

[Eirinjas]

I remember you could be a polygamist in Fable, fuck and marry multiple women (and men) but that game is Euro trash, so of course you can.

 

[jaekl]

In the gold box games you can press E to encamp and then turn away from the computer and jerk off as if you're trying to hide what you're doing from the other members of the adventuring party at the campfire. It's quite titillating.

 

[Konjad]

It was pretty normal in Gothic 2.

It was rather sick in G2, they didn't take off their clothes, the protagonist just paid to rub clothes together

 

[Konjad]

Also, Gothic 2 lacked some optional Patty.

 

[Dadd]

sex is inherently unhealthy

 

[Konjad]

Sex never was a problem in games, romances are. There is nothing wrong with PC killing monsters, looting treasures and shagging hot women. The problems start when you for some retarded reason add 10 hours of teenage drama to it.

Witcher 1 did it right, you kill uglies, fuck babes, 95% sexual encounters are just casual sex with random women, it's basically "You see that hot girl? You can climb her", no teenage drama, no bullshit sob stories. Pure testosterone-fueled classic male fantasy game. Based.

Of course tranny crowd complained about it, so to cater to them, in their next games they removed most of the random sex and instead added more and more romance drama, pure decline. As I always said, successful devs can't make good RPGs. That's why it's important to pirate prestigious games, keep the good devs poor, don't let the coin corrupt them. One taste is all it takes.

The only good romance I can ever think of is Risen 2, because it's just a friendly barter, cheesy dialogs and generally "being friends" with Patty, kinda like a normal romances begin, it felt natural and normal. The romance was also just kinda implied but you weren't even sure (as with real women). The writer did an excellent job.

Meanwhile in all other RPGs it's HEY I HAVE A CHILDHOOD TRAUMA, I HAD MY WINGS CUT/PPL SAID MEAN WORDS/MY FAMILY SLAUGHTERED, but if you LMB quickly through my SAD SOB STORY, I will tell you WE HAVE A ROMANCE (and in some cases FUCK YOU INSTANTLY). It's all so cringe I usually avoid romances unless I do them ironically, ever since Aerie started to tl;dr me her bullshit story. My mistake to have her in the party, I know.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Most gamedevs are too cowardly to go into porndev, which is arguably the most honest and least creatively bankrupt niche in the industry right now. Before you start looking for spoilers with trollfaces hidden behind them, consider the following.

Pros of being a pornlord:

• You're strictly dealing with an adult audience (allegedly). No more pandering to kids and their idiocy, you don't have to do a single thing to make your games accessible for children.
• You get to include as many naked women with giant tits in your game as you want. If someone tries to say anything about how many buxom redheads you have, cancel them! That's kinkshaming.
• Speaking of, you get paid to popularize your own vile fetishes. That's pretty cool.
• No more sucking streamer dick so you can market your games. You no longer have to worry about streamers or 'tubers, or journos, because they will all ignore you. And your games won't have the utter decline that comes from catering to these parasites.
• Don't have to worry about publishers or anyone else in the industry. Flip everyone the bird.
• In fact, alienate unwanted friends and family by sharing your current project with them.
• Your games don't really have to be more than a visual novel with badly animated, disgustingly uncanny DAZ models. Doing more than that is just being a tryhard.
• If for whatever reason you ever get critical acclaim, you get to dunk on regular gamedevs by saying your shitty porn games outperformed theirs.
• You don't have to finish development at all. Just set up a Patreon and release an update every three months to change the title logo.
• There's so much degeneracy in modern games you can label yourself as a bastion of heterosexual male tastes.
• You get to sidestep any criticism or current day tomfoolery with the magic words "I just make porn games bro."
• Your cock will grow at least 3 inches permanently from being rock hard all day.
• You get to be a complete fucking troll.
• Add fucking attribute checks to sex, because why fucking not? Lean into the absurdism that is our world.

Spoiler

Cocks for the cock god, I wish there were more serious RPG porn devs.

Also

Spoiler

Waiting for you to create the Deus Ex of porn gaming.

You can even call the name Due Sex

 

[Tyranicon]

Waiting for you to create the Deus Ex of porn gaming.

You can even call the name Due Sex

The sequel? Sex Machina.

Or I'll just call it Due Sex: Invisible Tits, it'll be shit and bomb, and I'll go into hiding.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Waiting for you to create the Deus Ex of porn gaming.

You can even call the name Due Sex

The sequel? Sex Machina.

Or I'll just call it Due Sex: Invisible Tits, it'll be shit and bomb, and I'll go into hiding.

Nigga you're putting tits, it'll take extraordinary lack of effort to fail.

 

[Lord of Riva]

As if it was puritanism and sex that is the problem and not the promotion of the completely wrong "gendertheory" and It's attached implications.

There are thousands of porn games out there, some of the quite good. Some recent RPGs is neither, it features ugly women (with dicks) and is a bland game in itself.

 

[Grauken]

sex havers.

lmao, only an incel writes like that

I agree, sex should be reserved for sex havers.

Only an incel deals in absolutes

Dudes, an AI chatbot has more personality than you two. You even write like you're running of a script.

I see you're not denying it

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

This is all very compelling but clearly Bastila is best girl.

That aside, it's rather odd that people bring up The Witcher as the series that was purely about fucking when it was W1 that was the original Dad of Boy game. Both Triss and Shani's romances had several domestic decisions that related to child-rearing and co-habitation that were further along on the commitment road than what is usually seen in RPG romances, or as BrotherFrank called them the emotional porn/courtship phase of the romance (at best). Personally, if there's going to be a romance in a game I prefer it runs the full marathon and that certainly hasn't been the case in most games. It's not as if there isn't time for it either, most romances bottom-out somewhere the middle of the second act and only pick up at the very end of the game, sometimes even worse, in an epilogue's wall of text. There is much more that can be explored if devs would find the will to leave behind the mid-2000s comfort blanket of romance design that only ever simulates the infatuation angst.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

"I just want RPGs to be Safe Spaces"

 

[Reinhardt]

it's that time of the year again on codex? you are so slow. my cat started his mating season 2 weeks ago already.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

In Fallout 1 you are forced to marry the girl.

 

[NecroLord]

In Fallout 1 you are forced to marry the girl.

Fallout 2.
And you are talking about Miria in Modoc.

 

[Harthwain]

Hence American priorities in this regard are pretty fucked up.

A bunch of stuff to unpack here:

1) Remember that games were seen as kids' toys back in the day (and there were people complaining about violence in games. As idiotic as their arguments were). Now you can buy actual games that feature sex (although I would need to make some searches to recall the actual titles). Why? Because there is now a large segment of middle-aged gamers. Before everything was marketed towards kids.

2) Combat in most games is heavily abstracted and as such it is much easier to swallow for most people (few games go for relatively realistic gore on the level of Soldier of Fortune).

3) You don't need sex most of the time and when you really do, you don't really need to SHOW it. Not that you COULD show off sex before Mass Effect, in games such as Baldur's Gate 2, for example. Now it is a different story, but the principle of "you don't need it" and "you don't need to show it" are still valid now as they were then. Most developers really don't have time or resources to model sex in games (and the political climate isn't good for that either. Especially for developers who quake in their boots at any kind of controversy).

4) Nothing really stops developers from showing hot babes in gaming. In fact, there were doing this notoriously in the past (and in promotional materials). I wouldn't call that Puritan. If anything the current era is way more Puritan, because we can't have sexy women in games for one reason or another. The fact that Larian actually went with not just sexy women but with showing sex is pretty bold (altough I guess Witcher II did it before. And Mass Effect 1 or 2, so it wasn't that ground-breaking, but still highly unusual for a game that wasn't openly about sex).