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Grand Strategy Imperator: Rome - the new grand strategy from Paradox

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Be nice at my senility. I remember it's from time when Saxons migrated, found they would have to live according to foreign laws not Saxon ones, and returned back to original area. Don't remember exact date. But Frank-ly I'd expect a pre EU4 game to last at least 1000 years. And have events for all these 1000 years.

Senility forgiven! But yeah nah there's no Migration Period PDX game yet, really imperator only covers the Hellenistic Age and little else. I don't know many games that cover the MP besides like the original Rome Total War's expansion or Attila, which is a shame.

I imagine Paradox will never, ever make a game where Muhammad will be an actual character who can be killed or otherwise thwarted
 

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So how is this right now? Give it a couple more years?

Don't be fooled by the idiots who claim it's a whole new game. The same fundamental issues remain, it's still an empty map painting sim. Character interactions don't matter. Religions and cultures don't matter. Some of them are completely neglected right now. There's tons of oversights and bugs. AI is still retarded.
 

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That the AI doesn't work doesn't even matter. AI being dumb is fine as long as they can respond to individual player actions. If anything it just makes the player feel smart. The problem is this shit doesn't work for the player side either.
 

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Okay, so...
Your main levies as a Germanic tribe are Light Inf, Light Cav and Heavy Inf. Makes sense I suppose.
Now, what do the military traditions available to me improve, by and large? Chariots and archers. There are perhaps 4 unlocks available to me in both trees that help my troops.

:hmmm:

e:

Gentlemen, I present to you the 10 year old Roman king.
king.png


And here's the state of Europe. It's... okay I guess? As you can see Rome has blobbed like a cancer.
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Goddamn, I tried playing a semi-tall game as Massalia but republics feel like absolute ass, the place swarms with barbarians and your only chance is to hire mercenaries. But you need money, which you can't really make even with good trade in the beginning.
 
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Goddamn, I tried playing a semi-tall game as Massalia but republics feel like absolute ass, the place swarms with barbarians and your only chance is to hire mercenaries. But you need money, which you can't really make even with good trade in the beginning.
The only good option is reforming into an imperial cult. :obviously:
 

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Damn i bought it last summer on a sale but i bothered to play it just now, i don't understand a shit.
I thought it was a sort of CK2 but instead it seems like an excel simulation decorated with roman eagles.
 
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Damn i bought it last summer on a sale but i bothered to play it just now, i don't understand a shit.
I thought it was a sort of CK2 but instead it seems like an excel simulation decorated with roman eagles.

I would offer my mortal soul for a CK2 style game in antiquity, and both Rome and the hellenistic realms would be a perfect setting for such a game. But I highly doubt that current-day paradox has the ability or the imagination necessary to actually make such a game. Even CK3, while mechanically competent, is just a full on meme-game or breeding simulator, with near zero immersion for the time period.
On topic: Imperator is a decent map painter, thats it. The gameplay is shallow and repetitive.
 

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How to play Etruria in 2.0: Delete every building, invest all your tech into military stuff, raise a legion of HI/HC, maybe hire some mercs with the leftover cash, rush Rome asap. Conquer Latium. Give the Romans citizenship.
Congratulations, you are now Rome. The world is your oyster from that point on.

e: They have Zoroaster in the game but didn't bother to give him some sensible traits.

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Damn i bought it last summer on a sale but i bothered to play it just now, i don't understand a shit.
I thought it was a sort of CK2 but instead it seems like an excel simulation decorated with roman eagles.
Excel simulation would be awesome, because it would simulate stuff. This is just a random clicking on the map.
 

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I will play devil's advocate and say that not every thing is bad about Imperator with 2.0 - The Greeks and Romans are well defined (unlike literally the rest of the map) and the culture/religion mechanics work nicely. It's a bit more syncretic overall which makes sense for the time period.
 

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Maybe i can't find them but:
  • There is no way, when assigning a job, to order characters by stat/loyalty?
  • A roman family is scorned because they don't have enough jobs, but for assigning them a job i need to open the characters panel then remembers the name of one of the family members then go to province/army/research and assign the job there by browsing through a character list hoping i can remember the name. That's crazy, there is no Assign job option?
    Ok, found this one
 
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