Is CD projekt the company everyone can still trust?

[Quillon]

I'll continue to have sympathy for them cos they are big and despite that still ambitious but will never believe a word they say from now on especially with their reasoning for CP77's short main story which was: "people found Witcher 3 too long so we made it shorter this time"; trying to preemptively cover their asses for the lack of, linear & shit content by saying "we did it this way for your enjoyment" lmao. Other than that console versions of the game can crash and burn for all time for all I care.

 

[anvi]

I don't even care anymore. Gaming is fucked but so is most of society. Late stage capitalism is what it is.

 

[Camel]

CDPR are repeating Bioware’s mistakes and going their way but quicker. Poles also don’t have gaming “journalists” good will like the Canadians had and they got harshly criticised when Cyberpunk crashed and burned.

 

[Captain Sicko]

Of course you can’t trust them. TW 1 was mildly entertaining and a new setting, TW 2 and 3 were shit you couldn’t play for more than an hour before going blind.

Also, you can trust nobody. I once trusted BioWare, I can never trust again. Stay alert, trust no one and keep your laser handy.

 

[Mortanius]

Trusting any company is a mistake.

 

[gurugeorge]

Trusting any company is a mistake.

I wouldn't say that, there's usually a window of opportunity when you can trust a company and it produces a few good things in a row (Looking Glass is the supreme case in point, also Troika, BioWare, Obsidian, etc.). It's a pleasant phenomenon, to get excited and have that trust rewarded.

The difficulty is being alert to signs of knowing when to stop trusting them, and then actually stopping trusting them. It's often when the team (the "hunting party", the mannerbund, that did all the good stuff) changes, really.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Trusting any company is a mistake.

Private companies tend to not deviate far from their values short of radical leadership change or going public.

 

[Serus]

I wouldn't say that, there's usually a window of opportunity when you can trust a company and it produces a few good things in a row (Looking Glass is the supreme case in point, also Troika, BioWare, Obsidian, etc.). It's a pleasant phenomenon, to get excited and have that trust rewarded.

The difficulty is being alert to signs of knowing when to stop trusting them, and then actually stopping trusting them. It's often when the team (the "hunting party", the mannerbund, that did all the good stuff) changes, really.

Microprose made (or published) dozens of good games in the 80s and early 90s, and it would be hard to find real turds there, at least until certain point. But that was long time ago. These days IF a company is very successful and grows, you might be burned even on their 2nd or 3rd title.
As to Troika, they made exactly THREE games of which the last was the most popamole, the most oriented towards copying existing market trends, also the worst one. Of curse the worst by their standards still wasn't bad. However Troika did not have a big financial success at any point.
That seems the crucial part. A starting ambitious company as long as is small(-ish) or struggles to stay afloat, there is at least a chance they will make an effort. Otherwise people who made the company becomes rich businessmen not longer interested in creating games and making a profit in the process. Instead they are only interested in making money - the game becomes a tool. It seems that this is what happened with CDPR as with dozens of companies before. The first Witcher was a product of relatively small company run and staffed by people who genuinely wanted to make (good) computer games. After the first two Witchers, it was no longer the case anymore.
In other words: the signs you are looking for is company getting (too) successful and rich.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

And once that happens.... reality warps and the old supporters & playerbase gets fucked. It is like they are possessed by the green demon and everything becomes gibberish. They are gone... forever.

 

[PorkaMorka]

Troika is not a good example of a company you can trust. (questionable concept)

They were known for releasing flawed gems. If a game releases in a flawed state, but eventually becomes good after further patching, the customer who buys on release day doesn't get what he was hoping for and may have a bad experience on his only playthrough.

 

[Tyrr]

A new low?

 

[SumDrunkGuy]

Trusting any company is a mistake.

I trust From Software. And that is where the list ends.

 

[Lim-Dûl]

Trusting any company is a mistake.

I trust From Software. And that is where the list ends.

The list ended with Demon's Souls (PS3).

 

[SumDrunkGuy]

Trusting any company is a mistake.

I trust From Software. And that is where the list ends.

The list ended with Demon's Souls (PS3).

Nope. They stumbled just a little bit with Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro but From Software continues to piss excellence and they are showing no signs of decline. There's no reason not to trust them.

 

[Robotigan]

Witcher 3 had all the same problems Cyberpunk does, so this shit just baffles me.

CDPR always felt kind of skeevy to me. Cyberpunk was handled no different than their past titles. From what I recall, Witcher 2 and 3 were the exact same way. They massively inflated the budget and scope, hired an army of contract devs, marketed the absolute bananas out of the game with gimmicky stunts, hyped up features they hadn't even implemented yet, misrepresented the state of the game in demos, and generally paraded around with the bratty attitude of a le epic gamer streamer. Gamers ate that shit up because they misinterpret professional decorum as corporate deception and find obnoxious gamerism relatable.

 

[Ereshkigal]

Sure you can trust them to fuck up the next time too

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

"Don't put your trust in princes, in mortal men who cannot save etc."

 

[Camel]

A new low?

And they're a mostly a Polish company from one of the most conservative countries in Europe.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

A new low?

jesus christ what transphobes, they didn't even use the proper LGBTQQIP2SAA flag, fucking transphobes