Fallout Is Fallout: New Vegas a worthy Fallout game?

[luj1]

GoG version runs perfectly for me, got it for free too

on Win 7 no less

It's a great game

 

[Risewild]

How do you make Tactics run on modern PC? It always doesn't like to launch for me.

The one I have installed is the GOG version. I have the disk version (I probably have more than one version of it in disk), but laptops these days don't have optical drives anymore, so I go with GOG.

 

[Risewild]

Carrying all the loot must have been hell, through.

The good thing about solo unarmed is that you don't need to spend a lot of money on equipment or other stuff. That's why in my screenshot up there, I'm using the Piston Fist as the main weapon and the Power Fist as a secondary one, to save ammo and travel lighter.

Mostly, just carry tons of chems and healing and some Power Fist ammo. Only pick up loot until you're almost encumbered and then just try to filter the loot you carry depending on its price per lbs (carry stuff that is worth more per weight).

 

[laclongquan]

Fallout -> Outerworlds

Give a medal to this genius please

Are you denying that the great minds behind the game Fallout created Outerworlds?

No Avellone for the writing? then no, not all.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Fallout -> Outerworlds

Give a medal to this genius please

Are you denying that the great minds behind the game Fallout created Outerworlds?

No Avellone for the writing? then no, not all.

Avellone didn't work on Fallout.

 

[Risewild]

Also, how do you already have Enviromental Armor by Peoria? I thought you only started getting it during the mutant missions?

I can't be sure anymore, but I probably bought it from a trader in a special encounter.
I remember farming special encounters back then, I think I was looking for the brahmin armor encounter or something stupid like that.

 

[laclongquan]

Fallout -> Outerworlds

Give a medal to this genius please

Are you denying that the great minds behind the game Fallout created Outerworlds?

No Avellone for the writing? then no, not all.

Avellone didn't work on Fallout.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_2_developers?so=search

 

[Risewild]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_2_developers?so=search

To be fair, Fallout =/= Fallout 2

 

[Dwarvophile]

Tactics

better than every non-isometric fallout

yet many never played it

Well it's been sitting in my GOG library for years, but the last time I tried to play it, it refused to launch (on win10).

 

[JarlFrank]

Fallout -> Outerworlds

Give a medal to this genius please

Are you denying that the great minds behind the game Fallout created Outerworlds?

No Avellone for the writing? then no, not all.

Avellone didn't work on Fallout.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_2_developers?so=search

Fallout 2's writing is worse than 1's lol.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Fallout -> Outerworlds

Give a medal to this genius please

Are you denying that the great minds behind the game Fallout created Outerworlds?

No Avellone for the writing? then no, not all.

Avellone didn't work on Fallout.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_2_developers?so=search

Fallout 2's writing is worse than 1's lol.

Not something I'd attribute to the writers but the turnover rate. Too many people worked on it, and it shows.

 

[luj1]

Fallout 2's writing is worse than 1's lol.

not by a lot

FO2 still a cult game and shits on any non-isometric Fallout

 

[agris]

It’s incredibly mixed, Vault 13 NPC dialogue outside of a few core is clearly written from the same fill-in-the-blank template. That’s an important location to half-ass.

Related but distinct from “writing” is tone. The tone of the writing is waaaaay off from F1, for the worse. F1’s dialogue is consistently tight and pulpy, to the point without being abrupt. It’s the reciprocal of modern cRPG writing.

 

[jackofshadows]

Don't forget about Broken Hills lib stuff. I thought Cotex hates lib stuff (muh muties, muh racism).

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

Tactics is definitely my favorite but it's a quite different beast so I acknowledge not many people would see it my way.
It's less story, more arcadey, fun to just play, I guess.
But seriously the robots are insane. And I say that, not having had trouble with the super mutants and death claws before them.

 

[laclongquan]

Don't forget about Broken Hills lib stuff. I thought Cotex hates lib stuff (muh muties, muh racism).

It's an important theme, irreplaceable in Fallout universe.

Since there's intelligent humanoids that are not humans, it's inevitable that the developers explore the idea of co-existence.

In Fallout New Vegas, it's all over, from Jacobstown to Freeside/Westside and some Ranger station.

In Fallout 3, curiously enough the most widespread land that has coexistence is Point Lookout with Swampfolks being a localized mutants. Most towns in DC is quite unmixed: Tenpenny Tower humans get replaced wholesale with ghouls, Underworld get no humans until Sydney get dealt with peaceably, Megaton get ONE ghoul. otherwise mosta most are pure towns.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

otherwise mosta are pure towns.

What did Todd "don't be a fool, kill the ghoul" Howard mean by this?

 

[laclongquan]

"pure" = unmixed.
...
..
.
what? pure race = unmixed in races? Clear enough?

 

[Ol' Willy]

Vault 13 NPC dialogue outside of a few core is clearly written from the same fill-in-the-blank template.

Vault 13 has some weird dialogues. Every human and some other NPCs have unique lines to answer your questions. To answer them back, you have three responses - one very polite, one neutral and one rude. Every single convo in Vault 13 follows this pattern, like copy and pasted or made in a hurry

 

[Bigg Boss]

I think about replaying FNV from time to time.
Instead I watch my friend repeatedly crash while playing it on Steam.
I get the same impact.

 

[Ol' Willy]

It's an important theme, irreplaceable in Fallout universe.

Since there's intelligent humanoids that are not humans, it's inevitable that the developers explore the idea of co-existence.

You didn't notice "dindunuffin" being written all over the Broken Hill quest line?

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/fallout-2-pacifist.137727/#post-7259870

Cool to have a playthrough on KKKodex, I can quote myself

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

Interesting. So what did the mutants say why they were even killing random people, or is that not ever explained?

Also like how the NPC in the last picture is thankful they're finally free of the impure mutants, like he's a one dimensional villain who only had a problem with the mutants for being impure, and not because, iunno, they kill innocent people.

I personally would have said something like "Thank you so much, I'm glad these mutants can no longer slaughter us like cattle."

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Vault 13 NPC dialogue outside of a few core is clearly written from the same fill-in-the-blank template.

Vault 13 has some weird dialogues. Every human and some other NPCs have unique lines to answer your questions. To answer them back, you have three responses - one very polite, one neutral and one rude. Every single convo in Vault 13 follows this pattern, like copy and pasted or made in a hurry

Fallout released October '97, Cain announced FO2 in December the same year. FO2 released October of '98. Someone might have better knowledge than me, but I don't think they started working on FO2 prior to FO's release because nobody at Interplay thought it was going to be a hit.
If anything, I'm surprised the game doesn't have more blatant rush jobs like that.

Still has far more quality content than games that take 4-5 years to make now with teams 3x as big.

 

[Ol' Willy]

So what did the mutants say why they were even killing random people, or is that not ever explained?

He says something like "I wanted to prevent the conflict with as little bloodshed as possible". You know, a cave full of dismembered people - not much bloodshed by mutie standards

 

[Mary Sue Leigh]

But what conflict? I thought they were already fully accepted community members with representation in law enforcement and the local industry and almost everyone loved them? Why was there need for bloodshed at all.