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Josh Sawyer Q&A Thread

Ninjerk

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What an entitled dummy.

"I want people to provide a lot funding so I can make a game just for ME and no one else."

I did that myself within the constraints of RPG Maker, why can't you? :M
You can't expect his boundless creativity to be restrained by mortal concerns like budgets, can you? Not on his own project!
 
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I did that myself within the constraints of RPG Maker, why can't you? :M
He probably envisions a triple A title over whose design he has total control. Wouldn't go as far as saying that he considers what you've proposed as being beneath him, but it's a safe bet to wager that it wouldn't be his dream game at that level of technical quality.
 

Ninjerk

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I did that myself within the constraints of RPG Maker, why can't you? :M
it's a safe bet to wager that it wouldn't be his dream game at that level of technical quality.
Would it be anyone's? This would be a great time for that clown makeup meme about putting extra time in at work and hoping the boss man notices and "maybe he'll let me make my dream game one day."
 

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Being able to work entirely independently is a wet dream for most creators/artists. Not exactly a big surprise.

Of course, that means you have to self-fund. Which may put less restrictions (certainly not zero restrictions) on your own work, but leads to a whole set of other stress factors.
 
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Is Sawyer and Obsidian disconnected with reality what players want generally ?
Why is Sawyer employed in gamedev at all if he provably does not understand what makes games fun to the players?
Sawyer playing Skyrim is as if you would be watching non-lesbian homosexual pornography... its not translating at best.
 

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This is kinda the thing with this guy. He genuinely doesn't seem to enjoy any real aspect of dev work, and it doesn't even look like he enjoys designing games all that much either, since he's appears so piss poor at it. Why be here?
 

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I saw that. But my point is, if all it took was him doing that, he could probably do just as well or better in the corporate world. And it would be just as soul grindingly awful. Or he could go into business for himself if he wanted.
 

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it was very obvious from the beginning Josh never liked bg. you do not dissect things you love on the table to figure out how they work and why you or other people love them.

with 200k/year he can easily hire some russians to code and draw st. George game for him as long as mechanics aren't too complex.
 
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I think the problem with dealing with audience's expectations when making a game is that nobody wants to play the kind of game he wants to make.
 

purupuru

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dissect things you love on the table to figure out how they work and why you or other people love them
is what codexers literally do here all the time.
Also I don't see how he is hating his audience here, of course Pillars was constrained by the audience's expectations, that's how crowdfunding works. And despite Deadfire's commercial failure, the franchise still carries a surprisingly good reputation outside of codex, so it's not like he's saying "game is bad because backers tied our hands."
 

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so what? MS is nosing in his non-violent gaym?



yet he assumed & defined what the audience should expect. if they pitched a racing game it would have also got funded

why pillows games ain't compelling enough? cos they didn't really want to make them apparently :P


The golden rule: It's never Josh's fault, it's the players... even when he is the one pitching the game.

The nation of Hypocrisyia has a new king, apparently.
 

Testownia

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so what? MS is nosing in his non-violent gaym?


yet he assumed & defined what the audience should expect. if they pitched a racing game it would have also got funded

why pillows games ain't compelling enough? cos they didn't really want to make them apparently :P

The golden rule: It's never Josh's fault, it's the players... even when he is the one pitching the game.

The nation of Hypocrisyia has a new king, apparently.

Nah, he just wants to "Hideo Kojima" a game - have full, total, dictatorial, unrestrained control.
 
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I hate Josh Sawyer's hypocrisy as much as anyone else. He's made zero fucking progress towards Darklands 2, which is something that when Arnold Hendrick was alive was a real possibility but he clearly didn't actually want to happen, probably because it would require too much reading.

As for Pillars of Eternity, there was an audience that wanted that and...

No. You know what. Fuck that. Fuck this asshole. You can't sell out and then whine about being this artist who is bound by his audience. This is the most shameless thing I've seen since Blink 182.
 

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