Josh Sawyer Q&A Thread

[Roguey]

Surprising he's not already working on it. Bethesda will be too busy with TES6 for the foreseeable half a decade or maybe even a full decade and the suits will want to capitalize on the Fallout TV show and make an interim Fallout title until Bethesda can make the next big one, which is where Sawyer comes in. Toddler would try to block this, of course, but Toddler bows to Microsoft and doesn't decide anything anymore.

Avellone says Todd was always in Obsidian's corner, it was other people in Bethesda's top management who didn't like it.

 

[motherfucker]

Seems that it's turning into a trend for faded CRPG devs.

Ahem, for GAY faded CRPG devs.

If MCA starts his own channel too it will be the ultimate confirmation.

 

[MjKorz]

Surprising he's not already working on it. Bethesda will be too busy with TES6 for the foreseeable half a decade or maybe even a full decade and the suits will want to capitalize on the Fallout TV show and make an interim Fallout title until Bethesda can make the next big one, which is where Sawyer comes in. Toddler would try to block this, of course, but Toddler bows to Microsoft and doesn't decide anything anymore.

Avellone says Todd was always in Obsidian's corner, it was other people in Bethesda's top management who didn't like it.

Wtf I love Toddler now. No homo.

 

[scytheavatar]

He's open to directing another Fallout project of course.

Surprising he's not already working on it. Bethesda will be too busy with TES6 for the foreseeable half a decade or maybe even a full decade and the suits will want to capitalize on the Fallout TV show and make an interim Fallout title until Bethesda can make the next big one, which is where Sawyer comes in. Toddler would try to block this, of course, but Toddler bows to Microsoft and doesn't decide anything anymore.

Microsoft can ask Obsidian to make a Fallout game if they want it to be post apocalypse version of Avowed........ realistically if they want to make a Fallout game of respectable scale and scope they'll have no choice but to give it to one of the Call of Duty studios. Would Josh even leave Obsidian to work for these other studios?

 

[MjKorz]

Microsoft can ask Obsidian to make a Fallout game if they want it to be on the scale of Avowed........ realistically if they want to make a Fallout game of respectable scale and scope they'll have no choice but to give it to one of the Call of Duty studios. Would Josh even leave Obsidian to work for these other studios?

The game I have in mind would be a stand-in for the next big Fallout game that would be made by Bethesda, it wouldn't have to be of the same scope as Bethesda Fallouts. Obsidian have a proven track record of making both good RPGs and an amazing Fallout title with Sawyer at the helm, it would be foolish to give it to anyone else.

 

[Roguey]

Microsoft can ask Obsidian to make a Fallout game if they want it to be post apocalypse version of Avowed........ realistically if they want to make a Fallout game of respectable scale and scope they'll have no choice but to give it to one of the Call of Duty studios. Would Josh even leave Obsidian to work for these other studios?

Why would it be Avowed, they'd be using Bethesda's engine and tools, just like they did for New Vegas.

 

[scytheavatar]

LOL some of you folks don't seem to realize the Obsidian that made New Vegas is dead and current Obsidian is a very different studio........ like why would they make a better game with shitty Creation Engine than Unreal?

 

[Roguey]

LOL some of you folks don't seem to realize the Obsidian that made New Vegas is dead and current Obsidian is a very different studio........ like why would they make a better game with shitty Creation Engine than Unreal?

Writing is a lost cause, but they can make another open world game in Creation with no problem. Look at Fallout London, amateur modders can do it.

 

[scytheavatar]

LOL some of you folks don't seem to realize the Obsidian that made New Vegas is dead and current Obsidian is a very different studio........ like why would they make a better game with shitty Creation Engine than Unreal?

Writing is a lost cause, but they can make another open world game in Creation with no problem. Look at Fallout London, amateur modders can do it.

If Fallout London was released as a standalone game by Obsidian instead of a mod, do you think people would have loved it and called it a great game? Like sure they can make another open world game in Creation but can they actually make one that will be fun to play?

 

[Roguey]

Like sure they can make another open world game in Creation but can they actually make one that will be fun to play?

Sawyer made Fallout 3 a fun game, I'm pretty sure he could do the same with 4.

 

[skaraher]

In the current state of Obsidian it would be a Fallout-themed Outer Worlds. Not encouraging.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

And to make a fun Fallout game you don't need great writing, you just need great reactivity and level design.

 

[Quillon]

why would they make a better game with shitty Creation Engine than Unreal?

because its in the dna of 3D fallout games, UE game fallout wannabe TOW suffered for not having gamebyro-like features and look at warhorse studious; they made KCD1 in around 3-4 years with such features implemented into cryengine(they say it is similar to unreal) which in the end was buggy/clunky, we'll see hopefully a much better implementation in KCD2 after around 6 more years of development

that said bethesda themselves removed some features from their engine for shitfield so...

 

[Bulo]

Sawyer is a good game director. A Fallout game under him would have, at the very least, consistent tonal and aesthetic direction and rigorous systemisation

 

[MjKorz]

Sawyer is a good game director. A Fallout game under him would have, at the very least, consistent tonal and aesthetic direction and rigorous systemisation

Not to mention lore-friendliness.

 

[Tyranicon]

And to make a fun Fallout game you don't need great writing, you just need great reactivity and level design.

You can make a great game without good writing.

You can't make a great game with horrible, cringe nu-writing.

Half the games I try now are decent mechanically but facepalm material 4 minutes in. Games are dead and its the writers that killed it.

 

[0sacred]

And to make a fun Fallout game you don't need great writing, you just need great reactivity and level design.

You can make a great game without good writing.

Not RPG's.

 

[MjKorz]

Not RPG's.

Tell me about how great the writing in KotC is.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

He was quite honest with all the not getting bg3 audience and what they want.

 

[MjKorz]

He was quite honest with all the not getting bg3 audience and what they want.

He was right about literally everything.

 

[Roguey]

ds https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...e-turned-down-by-bethesda.149132/post-8803660

 

[Drakortha]

He was quite honest with all the not getting bg3 audience and what they want.

The BG3 audience themselves don't even know. They simply saw a bandwagon and jumped on it so they'd feel included with the current new thing on reddit and discord or whatever.

 

[jf8350143]

I like how he talks about BG 3's romance and says it's not something he would do and what he would do probably won't be enjoyable for the main stream auidences.

Though what he did with deadfire's romance isn't really that great.(Though still miles better than BG3).

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

You can make a great game without good writing.

bruh, stop upping your trash shovelware porn games lmao.

There is no such thing as "a great game" without a good writing, good writing is one of the requirement of a game to be great.

Sawyer is a good game director

Deadfire patriot approve this message.

 

[scytheavatar]

He was quite honest with all the not getting bg3 audience and what they want.

The BG3 audience themselves don't even know. They simply saw a bandwagon and jumped on it so they'd feel included with the current new thing on reddit and discord or whatever.

The most incredible thing about BG3 was that Larian managed to scam people into thinking the game is the next Witcher 3/Skyrim. Even though it has been in early access for years and Larian couldn't hide what the game actually is like to play. That Josh Sawyer couldn't get this probably shows why Obsidian is destined to survive in obscurity.