Josh Sawyer Q&A Thread

[normie]

$250k/year salary and he suffers in the summer heat.

he takes larping as an europeen seriously, and to him that means no AC

 

[0sacred]

And to make a fun Fallout game you don't need great writing, you just need great reactivity and level design.

You can make a great game without good writing.

Not RPG's.

 

[MjKorz]

Not RPG's.

Tell me about how great the writing in KotC is.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

He was quite honest with all the not getting bg3 audience and what they want.

 

[MjKorz]

He was quite honest with all the not getting bg3 audience and what they want.

He was right about literally everything.

 

[Roguey]

ds https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...e-turned-down-by-bethesda.149132/post-8803660

 

[Drakortha]

He was quite honest with all the not getting bg3 audience and what they want.

The BG3 audience themselves don't even know. They simply saw a bandwagon and jumped on it so they'd feel included with the current new thing on reddit and discord or whatever.

 

[jf8350143]

I like how he talks about BG 3's romance and says it's not something he would do and what he would do probably won't be enjoyable for the main stream auidences.

Though what he did with deadfire's romance isn't really that great.(Though still miles better than BG3).

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

You can make a great game without good writing.

bruh, stop upping your trash shovelware porn games lmao.

There is no such thing as "a great game" without a good writing, good writing is one of the requirement of a game to be great.

Sawyer is a good game director

Deadfire patriot approve this message.

 

[scytheavatar]

He was quite honest with all the not getting bg3 audience and what they want.

The BG3 audience themselves don't even know. They simply saw a bandwagon and jumped on it so they'd feel included with the current new thing on reddit and discord or whatever.

The most incredible thing about BG3 was that Larian managed to scam people into thinking the game is the next Witcher 3/Skyrim. Even though it has been in early access for years and Larian couldn't hide what the game actually is like to play. That Josh Sawyer couldn't get this probably shows why Obsidian is destined to survive in obscurity.

 

[Jaesun]

Liked the video. He was up front and shared his thoughts. Also I was not aware Avowed was Fergus' idea and came around at the end of Deadfire. Of which Sawyer was just too burned out and so was not involved in Avowed. And in general he doesn't care for (modern) rpg's and the way they approach romance.

 

[Tyranicon]

There is no such thing as "a great game" without a good writing, good writing is one of the requirement of a game to be great.

Chess.

Tetris.

Even if we're talking about RPGs there are plenty of examples of good games without "good" writing such as Battle Brothers, where you can describe the prose as functional at best.

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

Chess.

Tetris.

My brother. These are not "great", they're fundamentals.

It's like what Color is to Painting. We're talking about good painting, not color.

 

[scytheavatar]

Liked the video. He was up front and shared his thoughts. Also I was not aware Avowed was Fergus' idea and came around at the end of Deadfire. Of which Sawyer was just too burned out and so was not involved in Avowed. And in general he doesn't care for (modern) rpg's and the way they approach romance.

It makes you question if Sawyer would want to do a new Fallout game even if it was offered to him. And if he is not involved what are the chances that a new Obsidian Fallout game would be better than Avowed?

 

[normie]

He was quite honest with all the not getting bg3 audience and what they want.

He was right about literally everything.

no, fuck people with lights on their bikes

 

[santino27]

I thought it was a pretty good video, liked a lot of his answers, and agreed with a few too. It doesn't give me any greater optimism for future Obsidian releases, but tbh, that ship sailed a long time ago and ended up in a 'muh colonization' setting anyway.

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

'muh colonization'

I think it's a great topic that evoke real emotion, the fact that you're still coping after more than half a decade since its release saying that 'muh colonization' must have been a good topic to explore. It stays in people's mind a lot longer.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

'muh colonization' must have been a good topic to explore.

And they did a pretty good job with it, especially when it comes to the various factions. Enough depth as for them to be neither monoliths nor caricatures.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Even if we're talking about RPGs there are plenty of examples of good games without "good" writing such as Battle Brothers, where you can describe the prose as functional at best.

There are a multitude of good and great CRPGs where the amount of writing is scanty, if not entirely nonexistent, including such exemplars as Dungeon Master.

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

multitude

few.

the word you're looking for is "few".

And these aren't "great", as in, "generally perceived as great", but "I think it's good/great".

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I like how he talks about BG 3's romance and says it's not something he would do and what he would do probably won't be enjoyable for the main stream auidences.

Though what he did with deadfire's romance isn't really that great.(Though still miles better than BG3).

Deadfire's romance was clearly not made with a lot of heart behind it. While BG3 actually tries and I honestly , it isn't all that good or have much content but somehow people went crazy over.

The cinematic and voice acting do the heavy lifting for them. I just hope other devs don't feel like turning their games into a date sim , like Bioware, is really necessary.

 

[Hace El Oso]

And these aren't "great", as in, "generally perceived as great", but "I think it's good/great".

Are you generally perceived as a tiresome, pointless poster or rather do I think you’re a tiresome, pointless poster?

 

[Quillon]

 

[MjKorz]

Deadfire's romance was clearly not made with a lot of heart behind it. While BG3 actually tries

Deadfire and BG3 romances are very different. BG3 is the typical wish fulfillment power fantasy for horny incels. Deadfire tries to present relationships in a more realistic, toned-down fashion - something that is very evident from the way Deadfire handles romance endings where romanced companions end up balancing their duties with their romantic involvements and in many cases this does not end well.

 

[Vyvian]

Deadfire's romance was clearly not made with a lot of heart behind it. While BG3 actually tries

Deadfire and BG3 romances are very different. BG3 is the typical wish fulfillment power fantasy for horny incels. Deadfire tries to present relationships in a more realistic, toned-down fashion - something that is very evident from the way Deadfire handles romance endings where romanced companions end up balancing their duties with their romantic involvements and in many cases this does not end well.

Only masochist lunatics want real life style romance in their fantasy games. They want the fantasy just like with every other aspect of the game needs to be fantasy.
It's like if you wanted fire spells to singe your hands for HP damage every time you cast, in theory it's a good and interesting idea but in practice it is not.