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KickStarter Kickstarter Watch.

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Kz3r0, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. Kosmonaut Lost in Space

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    To be honest, I don't think that there's too much intersection between Veronica Mars demography and the Torment one. I, for one, never watched the show and didn't pledge to it. I think that there's enough room for both types of projects at the same time.
     
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  2. hoverdog dog that is hovering, Wastelands Interactive Developer

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    No potato for you today :keepmymoney:
     
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  3. Daily pledgers obviously:

    12th march ->1075
    13th march -> 657 (Veronica Mars started)
    14th march -> 665
     
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  4. Kosmonaut Lost in Space

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    Correlation does not imply causation. :deadhorse:
     
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  5. Spectacle Arcane Patron

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    Is Veronica Mars in any way connected with Veronica Black? Never heard of it before.
    With the "Mars" name I thought it might be some cool colonial Sci-Fi, but from the pictures on the kicstarter page it seems to take place on Earth...
     
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  6. You would be surprised how many random people pledge there. Most of it dont know what Planescape Torment is, at all. Just read some comments there. I think only 25% of pledgers really know what they support and I am optimistic. Rest is just random people supporting whats hot at the moment.Thats normal with everything: books, music etc.
     
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  7. Kosmonaut Lost in Space

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    I find difficult to believe that people that don't know what a RPG is or what Planescape: Torment is, is going to pledge for Torment. I agree that most people pledging for that game are Biodrones and similar demographies. But again, you are just pulling numbers and making a lot of assumptions just to "probe" your theory. OK let's assume that it's true, and Veronica Mars is "taking" money from Torment. That still doesn't mean that Kickstarter projects for this kind of games are doomed to fail.
     
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  8. Aeschylus Prestigious Gentleman Swindler Patron

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    Ok, let me be slightly more detailed than 'moron'.

    You are engaging in post-hoc logic. This means attributing causation to something simply because it comes before another event. Let's take a look at some other big KS campaigns at similar points along in their campaign (some were longer than others, so the relevant points come later):
    Double Fine adventure...
    Backers/day (9): 2881
    Backers/day (10): 1399
    Backers/day (11): 1009
    Backers/day (12): 641

    Project Eternity
    Backers/day (7): 1149
    Backers/day (8): 971
    Backers/day (9): 605
    Backers/day (10): 670

    Wasteland 2
    Backers/day (11): 938
    Backers/day (12): 601
    Backers/day (13): 453

    What's this? It's almost like... this happens to every campaign over a couple days at around roughly the same point, as the initial burst of donations fades, and new backers slow to a trickle.

    This is a really long-form way of calling you a moron.
     
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  9. You are in some point right but those projects have different distribution curves so you are wrong if you look closer. Torment has much "faster"curve and should have "stability" point with 1100 pledgers around day 3-09.

    You can even see an impact of Veronica by flattening Torment curve at this day when Eternity was growing(look at kictraq funding progress curve) and compare them.


    Torment day, so flat:
    [​IMG]

    So I was analyzing curves not the numbers.
     
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  10. Do you know sheep effect/Herd behavior?

    People are supporting what is top, popular, hot at the moment, doesnt matter what it is.
     
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  11. Kosmonaut Lost in Space

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    OK. This is the end of the RPG Kickstarters and we won't have any more (hypothetically) good games on Kickstarter because Hollywood. :roll:
     
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  12. HanoverF Arcane Patron

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    Only one thing could end Kickstarter for RPGs and that's if there's ever a Joss Whedon Kickstarter for Firefly, which will consume all the monies the internets has to offer and destroy our modern economy as we know it. Luckily most of the primaries have other contractual obligations which are much harder to shoot around than Kristen Bell's crappy Showtime series and, I don't know, sloth snuggling duties.
     
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  13. almondblight Arcane

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    I don't imagine those sets there are going to cost more than the sets for Veronica Mars. But even if they cost an arm and a leg, no one watched the show for the window dressing. If they had to use a cheap parking garage as the rebel base instead of the expensive one, I don't think there'd be any appreciable drop in quality since what's driving things is the acting and the script. Even though it wouldn't really be a movie (in my mind), I suppose you could even go the route of just making a play and filming it.

    Depends on the people. Crowd funding is about small groups of people who are passionate about things. The big studios are already giving us lots of films that focus on special effects and relegate writing and acting to the backseat. I wouldn't mind projects that do just the opposite.
     
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  14. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
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    PROTIP: If you think a Kickstarter isn't performing as well you think it should be performing, and you think you know the reason why, then you're almost always wrong.
     
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  15. Gurkog Erudite

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    The Veronica Mars series was boring, generic teen show with a hot lead actress that all the pedos want to violate and all the ugly girls dream of being. Joss Whedon is committed to 3 more years of Marvel comics movies and Nathan is busy with Castle for the next 2 years. In 3 years, if the cast aren't all in nursing homes by then, they might consider raping our wallets creating real entertainment.
     
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  17. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    For $10,000 I expect to bang Kristen Bell. Not that I find her insanely attractive.
     
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  18. Lancehead Liturgist

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    If BioWare ever did a Kickstarter, one can expect such stretch goals.

    $ 10 million stretch goal: All companions romancible by all genders.
     
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  19. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    For $10,000 I would pay not to have sex with Felicia Derp.
     
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  20. Zed Codex Staff Patron

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    I don't find her very attractive either but that's some hardcore homosexuality
     
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  21. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    For $10,000 I would pay for Jaesun to have sex with...

    :drink:
     
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  22. Cowboy Moment Arcane

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    Jaesun would pay you $10000 for that...
     
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  23. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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    I actually do not find MCA all that attractive, even though I LOVE HIM THIS MUCH.
     
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  24. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    He's reading this thread right now.
     
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  25. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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