KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Dan Vavra's medieval chad simulator

[ArchAngel]

The secret to archery is to put a little piece of tape on the middle of your tv screen. Instant crosshairs. Then you either shoot from the horse while trotting away or get good enough to clip them in the face as they approach

I might need to do that.

The secret to archery is to put a little piece of tape on the middle of your tv screen. Instant crosshairs. Then you either shoot from the horse while trotting away or get good enough to clip them in the face as they approach

At that point, you can just mod the crosshair in. It trivializes archery though.

I can understand games not having crosshair at first but it should appear with mastery of a skill. We are not the character we play. Once that character becomes good enough he would know exactly where he is aiming and where arrow is going to hit.
If you want only player skill to matter then character's skill should be removed and not exist.

 

[jaekl]

The secret to archery is to put a little piece of tape on the middle of your tv screen. Instant crosshairs. Then you either shoot from the horse while trotting away or get good enough to clip them in the face as they approach

At that point, you can just mod the crosshair in. It trivializes archery though.

No, a mouse trivialises archery, I use a controller.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Yep, you get XP for practicing with him. And he's brutal in that he'll mess you up for a day until you can hang with him. Probably the single best source of skill gain in the entire game.

It's so good it's basically cheating. I intentionally decided to avoid training with Bernard after getting master strikes as i was afraid i was going to trivalize the game.

I still got way more training than i would normally have just by doing the tourney every five days.

I think you can avoid the activation of master strikes system altogether if you don't learn it from him. Not really a fan of it, TBO.

Just used a combat mod that removed it.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Where do you repair armor? In Rattay nobody wants to repair more then 2 pieces of my armor, the rest never shows up on the list of repairs.. And I've tried weapon shop, armor shop and cobbler and blacksmith.

The armorer. There's also a tailor in an alley next to the armorer. Go out of the armorer shop, go left till the first alley, then left again. IDK if they repair stolen gear though. But I think they do.
Edit: You can't sell stolen stuff to them but I think they repair it.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I can understand games not having crosshair at first but it should appear with mastery of a skill.

This game is partially a simulator. For me something like that would ruin it but then i never tried using a controller for this game (and could never do so).

BTW, this argument also applies to people trying to play this as if it was Elden Scrolls. Kindcome Come is not really "open world", not in the same sense. You can roam around and do what you want but there are definitive limits. When you start, Henry is a village boy with zero experience in almost anything. Being unable to fight off bandits or being unable to shoot rabbits after picking up an hunting quest is how the game is intended to be, because it's trying to simulate the difficulties someone like Henry would have in that situaition. That even becomes more obvious once you start to meet all the other refugees, including your own friends, all of which also struggling to find a place outside their old life. Henry is immensely privileged compared to everybody else from Skalitz.

Best way to play this game is literally to just put yourself in the shoes of Henry. What would you do after your village was raided and you suddenly found yourself being thrown into the outer world with no skills and no place to go? Would you start roaming the roads right after your entire village has been razed to the ground knowing there's likely bandits and Cumans everywhere? No you wouldn't. Would you pick an hunting job having never shot an arrow in your life? No you wouldn't.

The game isn't scaled down to your level like in most RPGs where the early areas are meant to be done at low levels. You are supposed to scale up to the world around you.

 

[ArchAngel]

I can understand games not having crosshair at first but it should appear with mastery of a skill.

This game is partially a simulator. For me something like that would ruin it but then i never tried using a controller for this game (and could never do so).

BTW, this argument also applies to people trying to play this as if it was Elden Scrolls. Kindcome Come is not really "open world", not in the same sense. You can roam around and do what you want but there are definitive limits. When you start, Henry is a village boy with zero experience in almost anything. Being unable to fight off bandits or being unable to shoot rabbits after picking up an hunting quest is how the game is intended to be, because it's trying to simulate the difficulties someone like Henry would have in that situaition. That even becomes more obvious once you start to meet all the other refugees, including your own friends, all of which also struggle to find a place outside. Henry is immensely privilege compared to everybody else from Skalitz.

I agree that not being able to shoot rabbits is OK for a beginner. But this beginner can afford to buy 100 hunting arrows for 90 groschen and would become better just doing target practice at one of the many archery targets around the map for few days but that option does not exist, in this "realistic" world you can only learn to shoot straight, good and fast if you are tryng to murder someone.. someone should say that to that youtube archer that does crazy stunts and never shot any living person in his life LOL

I do not mind not being able to hit rabbits, they are tiny after all and keep moving, it is only that I can either do that or shoot farm animals for practice at low levels of skill :D
(I tried shooting someones pig, lady called guards on me; later I found some unguarded sheep but damn devs only made it so you get tiny amount of XP shooting at those)

 

[ArchAngel]

Where do you repair armor? In Rattay nobody wants to repair more then 2 pieces of my armor, the rest never shows up on the list of repairs.. And I've tried weapon shop, armor shop and cobbler and blacksmith.

The armorer. There's also a tailor in an alley next to the armorer. Go out of the armorer shop, go left till the first alley, then left again. IDK if they repair stolen gear though. But I think they do.
Edit: You can't sell stolen stuff to them but I think they repair it.

Now that you mention it, most of my gear is still one stolen from guards in Intro town that you need to escape from. Is it possible those items do no appear on repair list because of that?! I think I tried using small armorers's kit as well and that one also didn't let me try to repair some of other gear..

 

[Lyric Suite]

I can understand games not having crosshair at first but it should appear with mastery of a skill.

This game is partially a simulator. For me something like that would ruin it but then i never tried using a controller for this game (and could never do so).

BTW, this argument also applies to people trying to play this as if it was Elden Scrolls. Kindcome Come is not really "open world", not in the same sense. You can roam around and do what you want but there are definitive limits. When you start, Henry is a village boy with zero experience in almost anything. Being unable to fight off bandits or being unable to shoot rabbits after picking up an hunting quest is how the game is intended to be, because it's trying to simulate the difficulties someone like Henry would have in that situaition. That even becomes more obvious once you start to meet all the other refugees, including your own friends, all of which also struggle to find a place outside. Henry is immensely privilege compared to everybody else from Skalitz.

I agree that not being able to shoot rabbits is OK for a beginner. But this beginner can afford to buy 100 hunting arrows for 90 groschen and would become better just doing target practice at one of the many archery targets around the map for few days but that option does not exist, in this "realistic" world you can only learn to shoot straight, good and fast if you are tryng to murder someone..

I'm not saying there aren't some strange caveats. I'm assuming the reason shooting at a target doesn't increase your XP in archery is that it would have made it too easy. It still helps train your own aim though, which isn't exactly useless.

Playing chumps in Ledetchko DOES give you XP for all we know the reason you don't get XP in target practice could be a bug or an error in the coding.

The game is janky what can you do. For me the good outweights the bad and all the broken bits (some of which can be fixed with mods) so i just ignored it and moved on. Your mileage may be different i don't know.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Where do you repair armor? In Rattay nobody wants to repair more then 2 pieces of my armor, the rest never shows up on the list of repairs.. And I've tried weapon shop, armor shop and cobbler and blacksmith.

The armorer. There's also a tailor in an alley next to the armorer. Go out of the armorer shop, go left till the first alley, then left again. IDK if they repair stolen gear though. But I think they do.
Edit: You can't sell stolen stuff to them but I think they repair it.

Now that you mention it, most of my gear is still one stolen from guards in Intro town that you need to escape from. Is it possible those items do no appear on repair list because of that?! I think I tried using small armorers's kit as well and that one also didn't let me try to repair some of other gear..

Are they even broken? Game has locational damage your armor isn't going to get damaged unless it's targeted directly.

You can't sell stolen items until some time has passed, so i assume they wouldn't show up if you went to a blacksmith and asked him to repair them for the same reason.

Gotta be careful with that. Guards will know a theft has occured and might stop you randomly to see what you got. It's usually safer to shove your stolen stuff in your chest and wait a while before using them.

 

[ArchAngel]

Where do you repair armor? In Rattay nobody wants to repair more then 2 pieces of my armor, the rest never shows up on the list of repairs.. And I've tried weapon shop, armor shop and cobbler and blacksmith.

The armorer. There's also a tailor in an alley next to the armorer. Go out of the armorer shop, go left till the first alley, then left again. IDK if they repair stolen gear though. But I think they do.
Edit: You can't sell stolen stuff to them but I think they repair it.

Now that you mention it, most of my gear is still one stolen from guards in Intro town that you need to escape from. Is it possible those items do no appear on repair list because of that?! I think I tried using small armorers's kit as well and that one also didn't let me try to repair some of other gear..

Are they even broken? Game has locational damage your armor isn't going to get damaged unless it's targeted directly.

You can't sell stolen items until some time has passed, so i assume they wouldn't show up if you went to a blacksmith and asked him to repair them for the same reason.

Gotta be careful with that. Guards will know a theft has occured and might stop you randomly to see what you got. It's usually safer to shove your stolen stuff in your chest and wait a while before using them.

Not broken, but not at 100 either. I think only one leg armor part is 49 or something, everything else is 50+
Stolen stuff is from town in intro and now I am in Rattay

 

[Lyric Suite]

Where do you repair armor? In Rattay nobody wants to repair more then 2 pieces of my armor, the rest never shows up on the list of repairs.. And I've tried weapon shop, armor shop and cobbler and blacksmith.

The armorer. There's also a tailor in an alley next to the armorer. Go out of the armorer shop, go left till the first alley, then left again. IDK if they repair stolen gear though. But I think they do.
Edit: You can't sell stolen stuff to them but I think they repair it.

Now that you mention it, most of my gear is still one stolen from guards in Intro town that you need to escape from. Is it possible those items do no appear on repair list because of that?! I think I tried using small armorers's kit as well and that one also didn't let me try to repair some of other gear..

Are they even broken? Game has locational damage your armor isn't going to get damaged unless it's targeted directly.

You can't sell stolen items until some time has passed, so i assume they wouldn't show up if you went to a blacksmith and asked him to repair them for the same reason.

Gotta be careful with that. Guards will know a theft has occured and might stop you randomly to see what you got. It's usually safer to shove your stolen stuff in your chest and wait a while before using them.

Not broken, but not at 100 either. I think only one leg armor part is 49 or something, everything else is 50+
Stolen stuff is from town in intro and now I am in Rattay

Are they armor or are they clothes? If they are clothes you need a tailor, if they are shoes you need a cobbler. Armors you need a blacksmith. You can find all three in Rattay, and each sell the relevant repair kits as well. You are better off doing your own repairs so you can improve your skill btw.

 

[ArchAngel]

Where do you repair armor? In Rattay nobody wants to repair more then 2 pieces of my armor, the rest never shows up on the list of repairs.. And I've tried weapon shop, armor shop and cobbler and blacksmith.

The armorer. There's also a tailor in an alley next to the armorer. Go out of the armorer shop, go left till the first alley, then left again. IDK if they repair stolen gear though. But I think they do.
Edit: You can't sell stolen stuff to them but I think they repair it.

Now that you mention it, most of my gear is still one stolen from guards in Intro town that you need to escape from. Is it possible those items do no appear on repair list because of that?! I think I tried using small armorers's kit as well and that one also didn't let me try to repair some of other gear..

Are they even broken? Game has locational damage your armor isn't going to get damaged unless it's targeted directly.

You can't sell stolen items until some time has passed, so i assume they wouldn't show up if you went to a blacksmith and asked him to repair them for the same reason.

Gotta be careful with that. Guards will know a theft has occured and might stop you randomly to see what you got. It's usually safer to shove your stolen stuff in your chest and wait a while before using them.

Not broken, but not at 100 either. I think only one leg armor part is 49 or something, everything else is 50+
Stolen stuff is from town in intro and now I am in Rattay

Are they armor or are they clothes? If they are clothes you need a tailor, if they are shoes you need a cobbler. Armors you need a blacksmith. You can find all three in Rattay.

I've been to everyone. They only let me repair gloves and boots, nothing else. I can also repair weapons and my shield at weaponsmith. It is strange.
Also I do not have main body armor, only 3 slots with undergarments are filled. Full body armor is expensive and creates noise and so far killing bandits camps has been doing stealth kills at night as that is only way to beat more than 1 guy :D

Weight management is also irritating. Game should let you train strength by moving overweight like Xcom does.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Actually, now that i remember, to repair armors you need the armorsmith. He is close to where the tailor is, in the Ratthaus.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Weight management is also irritating. Game should let you train strength by moving overweight like Xcom does.

There's a talent that lets you gain strengh when you pick up flowers and shit lmao. There's also perks that increase how much shit you can carry, and the horse can be loaded with stuff as well.

 

[thesecret1]

But this beginner can afford to buy 100 hunting arrows for 90 groschen and would become better just doing target practice at one of the many archery targets around the map for few days but that option does not exist

...but it does? I'm pretty sure that all the various archery contests around the map award archery xp

 

[ArchAngel]

But this beginner can afford to buy 100 hunting arrows for 90 groschen and would become better just doing target practice at one of the many archery targets around the map for few days but that option does not exist

...but it does? I'm pretty sure that all the various archery contests around the map award archery xp

Fuck archery contests, why not let us just practice ourselves vs archery targets you find? Also I didn't find any archery contests, only one in Rattay that happens 1 per week which seems to be melee one. I am not exploring the whole map yet. I do not care what happens later once I leveled up relevant skills, Rattay is your starting area, it should have some ways to help new players get better which is not hunting rabbits or bandits or running away from 2 or more enemies :D
In M&B2 you could even train in combat by just standing behind your troops and shooting arrows in general direction of enemy, you would hit sometimes and get your skill up.

 

[thesecret1]

Also I didn't find any archery contests

Then you are blind. You even did one with Capon earlier, in Rattay. And they're marked on your map and there's one in every town.

Fuck archery contests, why not let us just practice ourselves vs archery targets you find?

If you mean the straw archery targets, those ARE the archery contests. Just talk to the guy standing right next to them.

 

[ArchAngel]

Also I didn't find any archery contests

Then you are blind. You even did one with Capon earlier, in Rattay. And they're marked on your map and there's one in every town.

Fuck archery contests, why not let us just practice ourselves vs archery targets you find?

If you mean the straw archery targets, those ARE the archery contests. Just talk to the guy standing right next to them.

There is one next to burnt houses where you get your first big quest and there is nobody there standing next to it. I tried practicing on it and got no XP.

 

[thesecret1]

Also I didn't find any archery contests

Then you are blind. You even did one with Capon earlier, in Rattay. And they're marked on your map and there's one in every town.

Fuck archery contests, why not let us just practice ourselves vs archery targets you find?

If you mean the straw archery targets, those ARE the archery contests. Just talk to the guy standing right next to them.

There is one next to burnt houses where you get your first big quest and there is nobody there standing next to it. I tried practicing on it and got no XP.

https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/Archery_range

 

[ArchAngel]

Also I didn't find any archery contests

Then you are blind. You even did one with Capon earlier, in Rattay. And they're marked on your map and there's one in every town.

Fuck archery contests, why not let us just practice ourselves vs archery targets you find?

If you mean the straw archery targets, those ARE the archery contests. Just talk to the guy standing right next to them.

There is one next to burnt houses where you get your first big quest and there is nobody there standing next to it. I tried practicing on it and got no XP.

https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/Archery_range

https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/Archery_Range_of_Neuhof
ok so that one is just to troll us LOL

 

[ArchAngel]

Ok, I've decided to spam beginner archery tournaments to level up the skill.
They are easier to win than expected but xp gain is tiny and whole thing is bothersome.. at least I am getting "rich" with it.
What archery skill level do I need to reach before he stops waving the bow like crazy? At lvl 4 and half now.

 

[cvv]

Ok, I've decided to spam beginner archery tournaments to level up the skill.
They are easier to win than expected but xp gain is tiny and whole thing is bothersome.. at least I am getting "rich" with it.
What archery skill level do I need to reach before he stops waving the bow like crazy? At lvl 4 and half now.

Look kid you can certainly shoot bows in this game if you really insist but this is not Horizon Zero Dawn ok.

Just grab a sword, don some armor, put the kettle helmet on and go to town like a proper peasant knight.

 

[Val Doom]

The main quest is close to the point where I left it off last time I think. Neuhof massacre investigation is at the point where you have to go scout out the bandit camp.

It has been slower because I'm playing on hardcore and I keep finding these errands from random NPCs that require riding around the map. I like how there are relatively long quests hidden behind random NPC conversations that don't even show as a quest giver icon on the map. For example I got the whole Sasau construction site problem from talking to what seemed like a random quarry worker.

Spoiler

I accidentally found Leshek while sneaking around the mill. He told me about the real culprit and I might have avoided getting pushed off the cathedral roof. When the guards went to arrest him the motherfucker almost killed them both with a shortsword and no armor because the guards' AI was acting like they came from Oblivion.

 

[Harthwain]

What archery skill level do I need to reach before he stops waving the bow like crazy? At lvl 4 and half now.

At level 5 you should get a bit better (you stop hurting yourself at the very least). Other than that:

1) Are you using a bow that isn't above the requirements?
2) Don't pull the arrow for too long, it will only make the sway worse.
3) Use left point of the arrow to aim.
4) Fire between breaths.
5) Git gud. That's it. There is no substitute for learning by doing (and I don't mean that as purely in-game).

 

[Lyric Suite]

I wouldn't focus too much on maxing every single skill in turn. You gonna just break the game that way. Just spread it out over time and play the game naturally. It's not like you need max archery RIGHT NOW (and certianly not to hunt rabbits. For the record, you are actually not free to hunt until you get permission. Unless you want to be a poacher).

If you managed to put the main quest on pause, i'd recomment you go learn how to read. Books is a good way to gain a skill point or two passively. Also, get that perk that steadies your hand when you get tippy. If you are shooting arrows for anything serious you will likely want to save before doing it so you might as well get some bonus out of getting slightly drunk.