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KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Dan Vavra's medieval chad simulator

Lyric Suite

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Bows are the hardest thing to level in this game and the most overpowered shit later in the game.
 

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Can you level archery somehow outside combat or hunting rabbits? :D
I see on map I discover archery places but do not know if those can level up your archery. Also arrows break and I am not swimming in cash (and what I gather I spend on repairing my armor).
 

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I found the archery contests at the ranges to be a good place to level the skill up in the beginning, but you actually have to win the contest in order to get any real exp.
 

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Back when KCD came out, I liked the setting and premise, but the combat put me off and I never went far in the game. Now with all the hype, I tried playing with a PS4 controller and behold, fucked up Hans on both archery and sword fighting right at the beginning. Autism?
 

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Can you level archery somehow outside combat or hunting rabbits? :D
I see on map I discover archery places but do not know if those can level up your archery. Also arrows break and I am not swimming in cash (and what I gather I spend on repairing my armor).

I don't know how many of these exist, but there are some tournaments scattered about that you can bet on and then get taught bow skills: https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/Chumps_on_the_River

Other than that I think it's just by visiting trainers.
 

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Can you level archery somehow outside combat or hunting rabbits? :D
I see on map I discover archery places but do not know if those can level up your archery. Also arrows break and I am not swimming in cash (and what I gather I spend on repairing my armor).

I don't know how many of these exist, but there are some tournaments scattered about that you can bet on and then get taught bow skills: https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/Chumps_on_the_River

Other than that I think it's just by visiting trainers.
That does not work, you need to win the tournament to get taught :D
Back when KCD came out, I liked the setting and premise, but the combat put me off and I never went far in the game. Now with all the hype, I tried playing with a PS4 controller and behold, fucked up Hans on both archery and sword fighting right at the beginning. Autism?
I managed to beat him in melee using my shield tactic (with a stolen shield from Intro) but in archery using controller was even worse. I think I scored one hit at all and got 1 point :D
 
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Back when KCD came out, I liked the setting and premise, but the combat put me off and I never went far in the game. Now with all the hype, I tried playing with a PS4 controller and behold, fucked up Hans on both archery and sword fighting right at the beginning. Autism?
Nah, the game works surprisingly well with a gamepad.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Back when KCD came out, I liked the setting and premise, but the combat put me off and I never went far in the game. Now with all the hype, I tried playing with a PS4 controller and behold, fucked up Hans on both archery and sword fighting right at the beginning. Autism?
Nah, the game works surprisingly well with a gamepad.
Combat is miles better with a gamepad but everything else sucks, especially inventory management.
 
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I love riding the horse with a pad, lockpicking is great as well.
Yeah, inventory management sucks a bit, but it's okay once you get used to it.
Overall I think I prefer a gamepad for the game, which is kinda weird, especially for a first person perspective game.
 
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Ugh, where do these morons come from...

Oh, no this huge open world game with cutting edge graphics and in-depth simulation systems has some NPCs bugged out, or elevation changes can trigger some issues. That never happens with other huge open world games... it's not like Skyrim had a whole meme thing with horses riding up mountains vertically, or Witcher 3 with roach on roofs, or CP2077 with t-pose NPCs... Oh wait...
 

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Back when KCD came out, I liked the setting and premise, but the combat put me off and I never went far in the game. Now with all the hype, I tried playing with a PS4 controller and behold, fucked up Hans on both archery and sword fighting right at the beginning. Autism?
Nah, the game works surprisingly well with a gamepad.
Combat is miles better with a gamepad but everything else sucks, especially inventory management.

Exactly. But an active controller doesn't disable the K&M, so when managing the inventory I use the mouse. And so far I'm really enjoying this chad simulator.
 

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Got to Finding Ginger quest and charcoal burners told me to kill some bandits before they take me to Ginger. 2 of them destroy me. I wonder if they sleep and can be stealth killed, my Henry is a talker and not a fighter.
 

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I wonder if they sleep and can be stealth killed, my Henry is a talker and not a fighter.
There's only one person in the entire game you HAVE to kill, everything else has loads of alternative solutions. There's even an achievement for not killing anyone (except that one byatch).
 

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I played just fine with K&M, and i even had mods that made the combat harder and disabled master strikes.
 

Lyric Suite

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Got to Finding Ginger quest and charcoal burners told me to kill some bandits before they take me to Ginger. 2 of them destroy me. I wonder if they sleep and can be stealth killed, my Henry is a talker and not a fighter.

You can totally murder them in their sleep, or poison their food or wine but i assume you have no poison on you yet.
 

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Got to Finding Ginger quest and charcoal burners told me to kill some bandits before they take me to Ginger. 2 of them destroy me. I wonder if they sleep and can be stealth killed, my Henry is a talker and not a fighter.

You can totally murder them in their sleep, or poison their food or wine but i assume you have no poison on you yet.
Yea, I waited until 1 in morning, both were sleeping in beds without armor. I tried to sneak but they woke up as soon as I got close and I was not able to choke either but they proceeded to fist fight me and soon learned the old saying: do not bring a fist to a sword and shield fight.
 

Lyric Suite

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You need to prepare your character for stealth. Not just by training your skills, but also wearing the appropriate clothes to reduce visibility and lower noise.

BTW, here's a little tip for you: next time use a bow on naked bandits. Since they have no armor and weapons, you can easily stun lock them with little danger to you. Good way to train bows early on. Can also be used on the scrub bandits you find early on if the groups are small enough. Anything that doesn't have a lot of armor basically can be stun locked by arrows. Main reason arrows are totally broken later in the game since with high enough power you can punch through armor and do the same trick even with late game enemies.

Mutt can also help with this.

All the screeching about how difficult the combat system is in this game seem to ignore the fact you really don't actually have to fight anything if you don't want. You can play the game as an assassing, killing people in stealth, behind their backs or in their sleep.
 
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Lyric Suite

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BTW, considering the game saves whenever you quit, losing 2 hours of game time, even ignoring all the save opportunities you get from bathhouses and beds, and the fact saving potions aren't that hard to come by, especially if you learn how to make them at the alchemy bench, is entirely on you. In those two hours you could have quit the game a few times if you were worried about crashes or bugs.

Also, doesn't the game save on you automatically if you play on normal? And if are playing on hard core, wouldn't you want the hard core experience?
 
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ArchAngel

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You need to prepare your character for stealth. Not just by training your skills, but also wearing the appropriate clothes to reduce visibility and lower noise.

BTW, here's a little tip for you: next time use a bow on naked bandits. Since they have no armor and weapons, you can easily stun lock them with little danger to you. Good way to train bows early on. Can also be used on the scrub bandits you find early on if the groups are small enough. Anything that doesn't have a lot of armor basically can be stun locked by arrows. Main reason arrows are totally broken later in the game since with high enough power you can punch through armor and do the same trick even with late game enemies.

Mutt can also help with this.

All the screeching about how difficult the combat system is in this game seem to ignore the fact you really don't actually have to fight anything if you don't want. You can play the game as an assassing, killing people in stealth, behind their backs or in their sleep.
Killing with bow will not work with a controller, at least not with "drunk" Henry. It was hard enough to hit anything in Starfield with a controller and there you are not drunk when trying to aim anything
 

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BTW, considering the game saves whenever you quit, losing 2 hours of game time, even ignoring all the save opportunities you get from bathhouses and beds, and the fact saving potions aren't that hard to come by, especially if you learn how to make them at the alchemy bench, is entirely on you. In those two hours you could have quit the game a few times if you were worried about crashes or bugs.

Also, doesn't the game save on you automatically if you play on normal? And if are playing on hard core, wouldn't you want the hard core experience?
That does not help. As soon as your load save that was created when you Save and Quit, it gets deleted and you are back to your 2h before save.
 

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You need to prepare your character for stealth. Not just by training your skills, but also wearing the appropriate clothes to reduce visibility and lower noise.
Generally with the right perks you can get pretty heavily armored with 0 noise, the only substitution I made for heavy combat story bits was switching padded leggings to chain ones.
 

Lyric Suite

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BTW, considering the game saves whenever you quit, losing 2 hours of game time, even ignoring all the save opportunities you get from bathhouses and beds, and the fact saving potions aren't that hard to come by, especially if you learn how to make them at the alchemy bench, is entirely on you. In those two hours you could have quit the game a few times if you were worried about crashes or bugs.

Also, doesn't the game save on you automatically if you play on normal? And if are playing on hard core, wouldn't you want the hard core experience?
That does not help. As soon as your load save that was created when you Save and Quit, it gets deleted and you are back to your 2h before save.

No it doesn't lmao the fuck are you taking about.
 

ArchAngel

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BTW, considering the game saves whenever you quit, losing 2 hours of game time, even ignoring all the save opportunities you get from bathhouses and beds, and the fact saving potions aren't that hard to come by, especially if you learn how to make them at the alchemy bench, is entirely on you. In those two hours you could have quit the game a few times if you were worried about crashes or bugs.

Also, doesn't the game save on you automatically if you play on normal? And if are playing on hard core, wouldn't you want the hard core experience?
That does not help. As soon as your load save that was created when you Save and Quit, it gets deleted and you are back to your 2h before save.

No it doesn't lmao the fuck are you taking about.
What are you talking about? How does quiting the game constantly help vs bugs or crashes?
 

Lyric Suite

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BTW, considering the game saves whenever you quit, losing 2 hours of game time, even ignoring all the save opportunities you get from bathhouses and beds, and the fact saving potions aren't that hard to come by, especially if you learn how to make them at the alchemy bench, is entirely on you. In those two hours you could have quit the game a few times if you were worried about crashes or bugs.

Also, doesn't the game save on you automatically if you play on normal? And if are playing on hard core, wouldn't you want the hard core experience?
That does not help. As soon as your load save that was created when you Save and Quit, it gets deleted and you are back to your 2h before save.

No it doesn't lmao the fuck are you taking about.
What are you talking about? How does quiting the game constantly help vs bugs or crashes?

When you quit and save it creates a special save that's ONLY deleted when it is overwritten by another quit and save.

Try it. Quit and save, reload that save, then quit without saving. Upon restarting the game, you'll see the quit and save entry in the loading save list is still there.

You can literally exploit this to save scum to your heart's content if you are autistic enough.
 

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