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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II - Henry's coming to see us on February 4th

Tyrr

Liturgist
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Why would a Jew ever defend freedom of speech? I think he has a serious case of cognitive dissonance.
They're for freedom of speech until someone says something against them or Israel. Like Ben Shapiro for example.
 

Konjad

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
tbh I wouldn't answer such questions either, let the product speak for itself (for better or worse).
Rather empty words when they haven't officially shown these controversial things, don't you think? It's not particularly honest to show a facade of historical accuracy and secretly fill the game with propaganda.
They might as well not be there. All we have are rumors.
 

Smejki

Larian Studios, ex-Warhorse
Developer
Joined
Oct 22, 2012
Messages
712
Location
Belgistan
Smejki , tell us what you think about this hot topic :p
On the topic, nothing, but on the principles behind controversies old and new I have this:
For the love of me, I cannot find where it was originally posted, but apparently ResetEra, of all places, has the most comprehensive official statements from 2018 on the matter archived here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/se...heir-creators-kingdom-come-deliverance.17250/
What I learned years ago is that both extreme sides of the political spectrum believe the same insane shit (hello there horseshoe!) and base that entirely on some cherry picked sets of out of context quotes and stories completely made up in their tribal echo chambers. One group resents us for an imagined agenda, the other group celebrates us for the same, while we are caught in the middle just going "dude, what?"
 

processdaemon

Scholar
Patron
Joined
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Messages
638
I'm starting to think Vavra isn't a p. cool guy, not a p. cool guy at all.

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Is this a normal expression of political disagreement in Prague?
 

notpl

Arbiter
Joined
Dec 6, 2021
Messages
1,704
tbh I wouldn't answer such questions either, let the product speak for itself (for better or worse).
Rather empty words when they haven't officially shown these controversial things, don't you think? It's not particularly honest to show a facade of historical accuracy and secretly fill the game with propaganda.
They might as well not be there. All we have are rumors.
And a bunch of very obviously real screenshots? Or are you still huffing the full blown raving lunatic "they're fake!!" copium?
 

thr

Novice
Joined
Jan 25, 2018
Messages
33
Smejki , tell us what you think about this hot topic :p
On the topic, nothing, but on the principles behind controversies old and new I have this:
For the love of me, I cannot find where it was originally posted, but apparently ResetEra, of all places, has the most comprehensive official statements from 2018 on the matter archived here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/se...heir-creators-kingdom-come-deliverance.17250/
What I learned years ago is that both extreme sides of the political spectrum believe the same insane shit (hello there horseshoe!) and base that entirely on some cherry picked sets of out of context quotes and stories completely made up in their tribal echo chambers. One group resents us for an imagined agenda, the other group celebrates us for the same, while we are caught in the middle just going "dude, what?"

In that statement, both Vavra and Klima clearly state that they haven't found any evidence of any black people living in Bohemia at that time. So to include them is a political decision. They decided they wanted a token black character in their game. Which might be acceptable (because no one can prove there weren't any yada yada), if they didn't spend 10 years defending the exact opposite decision in the first game.
 

Gerrard

Arcane
Joined
Nov 5, 2007
Messages
13,035
Why would a Jew ever defend freedom of speech? I think he has a serious case of cognitive dissonance.
They're for freedom of speech until someone says something against them or Israel. Like Ben Shapiro for example.
He literally says "although his speech makes me sick, we are actually fighting for him too". Nothing like a jewish rat like Shapiro.
He clearly wasn't raised as a Jew, but he has drank enough of the koolaid.
 

Elttharion

Learned
Joined
Jan 10, 2023
Messages
3,236
Smejki , tell us what you think about this hot topic :p
On the topic, nothing, but on the principles behind controversies old and new I have this:
For the love of me, I cannot find where it was originally posted, but apparently ResetEra, of all places, has the most comprehensive official statements from 2018 on the matter archived here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/se...heir-creators-kingdom-come-deliverance.17250/
What I learned years ago is that both extreme sides of the political spectrum believe the same insane shit (hello there horseshoe!) and base that entirely on some cherry picked sets of out of context quotes and stories completely made up in their tribal echo chambers. One group resents us for an imagined agenda, the other group celebrates us for the same, while we are caught in the middle just going "dude, what?"
that entirely on some cherry picked sets of out of context quotes and stories

 

Gerrard

Arcane
Joined
Nov 5, 2007
Messages
13,035
Smejki , tell us what you think about this hot topic :p
On the topic, nothing, but on the principles behind controversies old and new I have this:
For the love of me, I cannot find where it was originally posted, but apparently ResetEra, of all places, has the most comprehensive official statements from 2018 on the matter archived here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/se...heir-creators-kingdom-come-deliverance.17250/
What I learned years ago is that both extreme sides of the political spectrum believe the same insane shit (hello there horseshoe!) and base that entirely on some cherry picked sets of out of context quotes and stories completely made up in their tribal echo chambers. One group resents us for an imagined agenda, the other group celebrates us for the same, while we are caught in the middle just going "dude, what?"
that entirely on some cherry picked sets of out of context quotes and stories


The historical facts have been altered. Pray they are not altered further.
 

GrainWetski

Arcane
Joined
Oct 17, 2012
Messages
5,553
Smejki , tell us what you think about this hot topic :p
On the topic, nothing, but on the principles behind controversies old and new I have this:
For the love of me, I cannot find where it was originally posted, but apparently ResetEra, of all places, has the most comprehensive official statements from 2018 on the matter archived here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/se...heir-creators-kingdom-come-deliverance.17250/
What I learned years ago is that both extreme sides of the political spectrum believe the same insane shit (hello there horseshoe!) and base that entirely on some cherry picked sets of out of context quotes and stories completely made up in their tribal echo chambers. One group resents us for an imagined agenda, the other group celebrates us for the same, while we are caught in the middle just going "dude, what?"
What's with the attitude, Body Type 1? Are you Type 1splaining all over us? Body Type 2s are talking; be quiet, listen and learn.
 
Developer
Joined
Oct 26, 2016
Messages
2,442
Ah well my PC can't play it anyway.

If it could I'd wait a few days before buying. I still think those pics and rumours are fake. But I'd err on the side of caution.
 

kangaxx

Arbiter
Joined
Jan 26, 2020
Messages
1,757
Location
Dargaard's Tomb
You are going to wake up on release day and find out it was one big joke.
If all of this is just a marketing ploy it's ballsy to the point of silliness.

If I were a betting man I'd say the random black geezer is in, but the unskippable bumming is out. If they've put that in it would be inexplicably stupid.
 

notpl

Arbiter
Joined
Dec 6, 2021
Messages
1,704
You are going to wake up on release day and find out it was one big joke.
If all of this is just a marketing ploy it's ballsy to the point of silliness.

If I were a betting man I'd say the random black geezer is in, but the unskippable bumming is out. If they've put that in it would be inexplicably stupid.
Are you suggesting that the government of saudi arabia is complicit in some sort of weird marketing stunt with a czech video game company?
 

kangaxx

Arbiter
Joined
Jan 26, 2020
Messages
1,757
Location
Dargaard's Tomb
You are going to wake up on release day and find out it was one big joke.
If all of this is just a marketing ploy it's ballsy to the point of silliness.

If I were a betting man I'd say the random black geezer is in, but the unskippable bumming is out. If they've put that in it would be inexplicably stupid.
Are you suggesting that the government of saudi arabia is complicit in some sort of weird marketing stunt with a czech video game company?
I'm suggesting that a lot of this is probably just the internet being the internet. People rightly laugh at games journalists, but apparently some will also buy a tweet from an alleged Arab game journo of all people, saying there's an unskippable arse fun cutscene in KCD2. Aside from that I can't see official confirmation the government has banned it?

I honestly can't remember the last time I saw an unskippable cut scene.

With all that said, if it's true then Warhorse are fucking retarded and deserve the opprobrium.
 

Lord_Potato

Arcane
Glory to Ukraine
Joined
Nov 24, 2017
Messages
11,130
Location
Free City of Warsaw
I'm suggesting that a lot of this is probably just the internet being the internet. People rightly laugh at games journalists, but apparently some will also buy a tweet from an alleged Arab game journo of all people, saying there's an unskippable arse fun cutscene in KCD2. Aside from that I can't see official confirmation the government has banned it?

I honestly can't remember the last time I saw an unskippable cut scene.

With all that said, if it's true then Warhorse are fucking retarded and deserve the opprobrium.
Lots of misinformation around KCD2 right now and some people are taking everything as facts because some rando posted in on X.
 

Litmanen

Educated
Joined
Feb 27, 2024
Messages
723
Come on, guys, LET'S GO FULL HISTORICAL REVISIONISM!!

I'm sure we're about to discover that even the first Kingdom Come was actually a flaming pile of woke garbage, and that none of you ever played it or used it as a holy relic in your battles.

If you're interested, I've decided to help you out and went back to replay KCD I. And guess what? I found a cutscene there too, with very clear subliminal messages pushing 'wokeness.'

If you slow the scene down enough, you can clearly see a guy shouting 'WOKE.'

 

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