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Paul_cz

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Maybe he simply likes to sail against the wind? Whatever the Zeitgeist is at the time when he releases his game, he's against it! A true contrarian edgelord.
...that's actually the most realistic explanation

Anyway, reading resetera is never as much fun as it is in KCD threads, absolutely love it
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
GET WOKE GET GOLD SAAAAAR

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That's a p. well done gypsy, nothing woke about that. It's p. likely they were already in Bohemia by the 1400s and if so, they would probably be in Kuttenberg.
 

Ryzer

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You are seriously delusional if you think a single black NPC is going to ruin the 'good will', or if you think the game is 'compromised' by it.
My guess is that since Vavra lost control (he sold the studio, if I am not mistaken) somebody thought the game needs some diversity and inclusivity. It may be a token NPC and the majority of players may not be that bothered by it (as there are woke games that are way more insufferable when it comes to being woke), but it certainly looks like a slippery slope for the next game of the studio and that's sad, especially when you compare the whole situation to Vavra telling people there were no blacks in medieval Bohemia and they should make their own game.
Vavra enjoyed Cyberpunk at launch, wake up. Stop sucking him.
 

Thalstarion

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Maybe he simply likes to sail against the wind? Whatever the Zeitgeist is at the time when he releases his game, he's against it! A true contrarian edgelord.

The man's a fucking legend.
Maybe.

That'd just make him a subversive snake, though. Such individuals do not exactly stand for anything in the end and most people end up laughing at them, not with them.

Very poor timing, too, since the pendulum is swinging hard against tokenism particularly over the last few years. So to suddenly cuck out now would be foolish

If the leak is real, though, the simplest explanation is he that he simply sold out.
 

normie

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Yes, the evil NATO warmongers ordered Vavra to include more token people of colour in his game.
Truly, Vatnik's minds in action are a wonder to behold.
the US invaded Europe twice to eventually be able to put niggers in our video games
the sarcasm doesn't hit when the words you're using, in the order you are using them, are accurate to reality
 

Thalstarion

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I guess I might as well ask since there's a guy here who has played it.

What's the tone like? Especially when compared to the first game?

The first game opened up with some rather brutal events and though it didn't shy away from comic relief, a lot of the reviews seem to be implying that every other side quest is 'lol so randum xD' in terms of shenanigans.

Don't necessarily need exact spoilers but...are the main quests serious, tragic and gritty?
 

S.H.O.D.A.N.

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If the leak is real, though, the simplest explanation is he that he simply sold out.

He sold out in the most literal sense - by selling the studio to Deepsilver Koch Media. He's a "creative director" now, and as such, subservient to the money people.

I'm not trying to defend Vavra's real or imaginary transgressions, but people seem to think he's still in full control of Warhorse. That hasn't been the case since 2019.

a lot of the reviews seem to be implying that every other side quest is 'lol so randum xD' in terms of shenanigans.

I hope that's a function of the coverage coming from and being addressed towards a specific demographic. It's hard to convey meaningful narrative qualities when you can't exactly say anything specific about the plot or characters, but "lol ten thousand cheese wheels" will get you a click.
 

thesecret1

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If the leak is real, though, the simplest explanation is he that he simply sold out.

He sold out in the most literal sense - by selling the studio to Deepsilver. He's a "creative director" now, and as such, subservient to the money people.

I'm not trying to defend Vavra's real or imaginary transgressions, but people seem to think he's still in full control of Warhorse. That hasn't been the case since 2019.
All previous statements by Warhorse had been that the publisher lets them do whatever the fuck they want
 

Ascetic

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If it was "just the publisher" then Vavra could simply say that, but he won't because this is part of the marketing strategy. He'll just retweet stuff about "never injecting DEI into games" and then at some point post release, when the game has already sold millions and gotten a lot of positive coverage, they'll say "oops, but it's just one black guy, that's not DEI. What's the big deal?" or just make subtle, passive-aggressive references to the criticism "we're the best-selling historical game, but some still claim we're 'woke', ha ha, just a bunch of incels".
 

Harthwain

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Vavra enjoyed Cyberpunk at launch, wake up. Stop sucking him.
Stop being retarded and/or fix your eyesight, you dumbfuck.

I don't really care if "Vavra enjoyed Cyberpunk at launch". I also don't care what you think about what Vavra thinks about Cyberpunk. I don't need his or your opinion about it. I never bought Cyberpunk 2077 or cared for it as soon CDPR officially killed the hope of it being a good videogame adaptation of tabletop RPG and turned it into a poor man's GTA.
 

Paul_cz

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turned it into a poor man's GTA.
It is actually rich man's GTA, meaning that it is much better than GTA in all the ways that matter (to me) - gameplay mechanics, player agency, writing.
It is not a "faithful" adaptation of the table top game, you are right. It is a great game set in its world, however.
Vávra's first post about Cyberpunk was very negative, he hated how the game starts, but by the end it was his GOTY (mine too).
 

Paul_cz

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I'm now looking forward to Vavra trying to explain himself even more than to the game itself.
That seems a bit obsessive, and I doubt you will be particularly satisfied by the "explanation", assuming someone asks him about it irl.
It will probably just be "in the first game taking place around Sasau backwater Bohemia it made no sense, but with this game being set in Kuttenberg and dealing with Sigismund, we decided it would provide one more interesting and unexpected perspective and made sense" and that will be about it.
 

Tyranicon

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RPGcodex a month ago: KCD2 is the last remaining hope! Jesus Christ be praised!

:desu:

RPGcodex now: The west has fallen, yet again.

:betrayed:

How swiftly the wind turns on us.
 

Turisas

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If that gypsy fucker doesn't deal in stolen horses, Warhorse will have definitely lost the plot.
 

Harthwain

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It is not a "faithful" adaptation of the table top game, you are right.
That's an understatement. Even CDPR started calling it "an open-world, action-adventure story" instead of "the role-playing game of the dark future" (as it used to be called at release) in May of 2019. They later changed that (in 2022) to "Cyberpunk 2077 is an open-world, action-adventure RPG set in the dark future of Night City", but it clearly shows how confident they were in their own creation being an RPG at all, nevermind it being a good adaptation of the tabletop.
 

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