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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

Reinhardt

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Remember your place, goyim.

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This makes me wonder if Vavra hasn't been pulling a parody using Aesop language all along. For the especially retarded in this thread - this specifically regarding Musa.
"listen, chud, you WILL suck musa dick but it's akshyully SATIRE!"
Looking at Vavra's activity it's not likely that it's satire. You have to be a complete psychopath to maintain the pretense for so long. But on the other hand, it's so incredibly bad what they've done with this character.
you mean LITERALLY LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER NIGGER OUT OF HIS PLACE?
 

Israfael

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What does that have to do with anything?
Are you an American? It has to do with the fact that naturally for every person his own views and culture is obviously superior to the others (sans "zapadniki" comrade Liberator has mentioned), so even if you consider him a nignog, he wouldn't do so (unless some sort of USAID existed then, lel).

It's an aspirational association, not one of common ground
Religion was the common ground at that time, that's what I was saying. You can agree or disagree with that, but until the Renaissance it was mostly so.

nigger from literal mud hut
 

processdaemon

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It's actually what Arabs and the adjacent cultures believed at that time, what's wrong with this? Read Walter Scott or something, it's mentioned in basically any history book or novel with regards of the relations between muslim world and pre-Renaissance Europe. Maybe it's a little anachronistic to see a Muslim traveler in early XVth century, right before the major wars between Ottomans and Eastern Europe kingdoms started, but still completely in tune with the pre-SJW notions of how the orient viewed the occident.
I don't think the attitude is incorrect, but for him to express it so openly as the only member of his race, culture and religion in the court of a foreign lord seems unrealistic as you'd assume that someone in that position would have the discernment to understand that speaking of your host with such contempt would end poorly for you. Perhaps with the whole context it makes sense though, I've been trying to keep low spoiler as I'm still considering buying so I haven't seen much more than the screenshots shared here.
 
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It's an aspirational association, not one of common ground
Religion was the common ground at that time, that's what I was saying. You can agree or disagree with that, but until the Renaissance it was mostly so.
Religion, not material development, yes. Just as a zapadnik spoke of common enlightenment values (which they perceived as a prerequisite for material development, but didn't attribute material development to their ideological belonging to that world).

Arabs are wealthier and more advanced than us (t. Mali) => in copying their ideology and associating with them (a.i. joining their 'world'), we hope to become likewise since we currently are not
 

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Also, we need a Bulgarian perspective on these things, paging whydoibother and Lacrymas))
Arabs are wealthier and more advanced than us (t. Mali) => in copying their ideology and associating with them (a.i. joining their 'world'), we hope to become likewise since we currently are not
The republican movement in the Ottoman empire, including Bulgaria, was idealistic more so than materialistic.
In fact many of the slogans are exactly stuff like "I'd rather be a poor free man than a rich slave" and stuff like that. It wasn't a cargo cult, and the goal wasn't to become more secular/western/liberal in order to become wealthier. Everyone had eyes to see that orientalist uberconservative landlords are wealthier than doctors in Vienna.
As for the vulgar masses of the movement, they weren't even pro-west per say. They were just orthodox taliban who wanted slavs to rule turks, instead of turks ruling slavs. We'll turn the table on these orcs, and then they will see who's who!

tl;dr the european struggle in Bulgaria was ideological, not materialistic; the materialistic struggle was identitarian, and very cynical.
Also I'd suggest you just call the turks, the republican pro-western movement among the turks themselves was the biggest in the sultanate. Also the only one that actually managed to assume and hold power, everywhere else foreign governemnts pushed some monarch.
 

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Why overcomplicate it.

There were no niggers in Europe in 1430 for the same reason there were no niggers in Europe in 873 or in 1785 or in 1620 or in 1810 or in 1933. Niggers started landing in Europe in 1944, on the beaches of Normandy, wearing US Army uniforms, and that very invasion still continuously takes place till this day.

The only reason there's a nigger in a medieval game is because NIGGERS WERE ALWAYS FOREVER EVERYWHERE AND NIGGERS WILL BE EVERYWHERE NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER I LOVE NIGGER TOTAL NIGGERMANIA AT ALL COST MORE NIGGERS NOT ENOUGH NIGGERS NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER.

That's it, that is the official policy of the zeitgeist, and the only reason there's a nigger in the game. Who cares about the extent of mental gymnastics they went to rationalize the nigger and try to make him more plausible?

It's literally a game in which you play as a faggot who chooses to get fucked by other men, while a nigger gets to fuck white women. The nigger is there just to mock you, White Man, because the kikes know that you were created in the image of God, and they hate it.

As Adolf Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf:

"Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise."
 

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you mean LITERALLY LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER NIGGER OUT OF HIS PLACE?
What exactly are you talking about? There is only this nigger in this game, right?
in media overall. musa is typical "we wuz kangz and teached wypepo how to bathe". zero difference. blakpipo are just superior. can't have proper nigga in straw skirt spearchukking around.
I want to ask the simple question "Who signed off on this Musa shitshow?"
 

VerSacrum

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Why overcomplicate it.

There were no niggers in Europe in 1430 for the same reason there were no niggers in Europe in 873 or in 1785 or in 1620 or in 1810 or in 1933. Niggers started landing in Europe in 1944, on the beaches of Normandy, wearing US Army uniforms, and that very invasion still continuously takes place till this day.
No, it was in 1915. And they wore French uniforms. See occupation of the Rhineland.
 

unseeingeye

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Strap Yourselves In
This fucking game. Thank God I didn't preorder it. This degeneracy and retarded development of morals is what you get with generations of children prescribed amphetamines by elementary school.
 

sebas

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut
Yeah...I'm not playing this. The bait and switch from the devs and the unchanged combat has certainly killed the hype for me. And it's not terrible enough to warrant some hateplay.

While Mali was a rich empire due to trading there's no evidence anyone ever made it into heartland Europe. And while buttfucking was certainly a preocupation, pandering character's sexuality for the sake of inclusion is just disgusting. Cue Vavra suprised pikachu face learning that approaches to DEI that worked 15 years ago no longer do.
 

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