KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance Pre-Release Thread [RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Paul_cz]

New story trailer

 

[AwesomeButton]

Face animations can do wonders. I'm hyped now.

 

[Alienman]

Those faces

The better graphics we get the more uncanny stuff looks.

 

[Paul_cz]

If Warhorse had 250 people like CDP I am sure they would love to model every head individually, but sadly they don't so they had to scan real people and real people look like potatos.

 

[Alienman]

The faces look good, it's not that. They just look dead and a bit awkward.

 

[Starwars]

They are not doing a good job showing the game off in a good light in these trailers I think. The cinematic story stuff looks pretty bad.

Give me the pretty forests and hitchhiking simulation.

 

[Iznaliu]

The faces look good, it's not that. They just look dead and a bit awkward.

That is realism for you. 1400s Bohemia wasn't easy to live in.

 

[J_C]

Vávra has a great gift in coming up with many good design ideas based in reality. However, he doesn't know when to stop. Recall 20 laps race with real-like physics of 30s cars or his recent "tough" decision to cut off the blacksmithing and dog companion from KC:D, because it would take too much time to fulfil Vávra's vision. Btw. here is Vávra saying how it's sad that Bethesda came with the dog in F4 first, when they had had it planned for a long time. He also mentions that the F4 dog can do all the stuff that their dog should be able to do. I have the feeling that he was a bit jealous of F4 and so extended the scope of their dog's abilities and than ran out of time on it. We'll see whether the dog comes as DLC at least.

And a second problem with Vávra is his unique ability to "shit in his own mouth" as Czechs say. It means criticizing somebody for something and then doing the same. For example here Vávra rants about Fargo having enough money and not needing to go to Kickstarter. Well we know what happened a year later...

Nonetheless, I'm excited that KC:D is being done and I keep my fingers crossed that it ends up being awesome.

He is a perfectionist. Oh no such terrible property to have as a developer.

It is actually not a good thing to be truly perfectionist. You won't ship anything if you want it to be perfect, or you will go overbudget or have to delay a game a lot (which causes going overbudget). There must be a point where you say no to things, and say "alright, this is not that important, better spend my time on other thing".

And in the end, he was right. Both Broken Age from Schaffer and Wasteland 2 from Fargo...sucked :D

They didn't suck.

Plus they did not need Kickstarter to survive as companies. Warhorse did, if they could avoid crowdfunding, they would.

Are you working at Warhorse? If not, you don't know their financial state.

 

[Paul_cz]

Vávra has a great gift in coming up with many good design ideas based in reality. However, he doesn't know when to stop. Recall 20 laps race with real-like physics of 30s cars or his recent "tough" decision to cut off the blacksmithing and dog companion from KC:D, because it would take too much time to fulfil Vávra's vision. Btw. here is Vávra saying how it's sad that Bethesda came with the dog in F4 first, when they had had it planned for a long time. He also mentions that the F4 dog can do all the stuff that their dog should be able to do. I have the feeling that he was a bit jealous of F4 and so extended the scope of their dog's abilities and than ran out of time on it. We'll see whether the dog comes as DLC at least.

And a second problem with Vávra is his unique ability to "shit in his own mouth" as Czechs say. It means criticizing somebody for something and then doing the same. For example here Vávra rants about Fargo having enough money and not needing to go to Kickstarter. Well we know what happened a year later...

Nonetheless, I'm excited that KC:D is being done and I keep my fingers crossed that it ends up being awesome.

He is a perfectionist. Oh no such terrible property to have as a developer.

It is actually not a good thing to be truly perfectionist. You won't ship anything if you want it to be perfect, or you will go overbudget or have to delay a game a lot (which causes going overbudget). There must be a point where you say no to things, and say "alright, this is not that important, better spend my time on other thing".

And in the end, he was right. Both Broken Age from Schaffer and Wasteland 2 from Fargo...sucked :D

They didn't suck.

Plus they did not need Kickstarter to survive as companies. Warhorse did, if they could avoid crowdfunding, they would.

Are you working at Warhorse? If not, you don't know their financial state.

1. Yes, which is why they are in content lock already for a while, 6 months before release, focusing on polishing, bugfixing and shipping.
2. I played both. Second act of Broken Age sucked and Wasteland 2's LA was terrible.
3. No, but I follow the development closely and they are very open. When no publisher decided to pick up the game, the only available funding was from the investor who funded the prototype. But in order to fund it, they had to prove market was interested, hence crowdfunding. if KS failed, project would be dead and company most likely disbanded (unless they would manage to get hired for some other project of someone else).

 

[Sore Loser]

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[Iznaliu]

Preorder is up, says it will be available feb 13 2018

Why didn't they actually bother to announce the release date?

 

[Sore Loser]

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[Iznaliu]

Preorder is up, says it will be available feb 13 2018

Why didn't they actually bother to announce the release date?

Turns out they announced the release date on june 9th, but at least the steam preorder is a new thing.

The way you said it made it seem like the release date was new information.

 

[Lahey]

 

[Infinitron]

 

[cvv]

Meh there's nothing new, I've seen everything many times over.

Meanwhile Vavra gave several detailed talks about the game in the last few months at various developer conferences but there's never any video. All those super-IT types somehow find it difficult to set up a Sony handheld for a 100 bucks in the room and then upload that shit on Youtube.

Wasteland 2's LA was terrible.

You must be the only person in the world to think Wasteland's 2 problem was the California part. Even the detractors admit it was the game's strong suit.
For me personally Wasteland 2 - the Director's Cut version - is one of the best RPGs ever made, easily on par with Fallout 2.

 

[Paul_cz]

Meh there's nothing new, I've seen everything many times over.

Meanwhile Vavra gave several detailed talks about the game in the last few months at various developer conferences but there's never any video. All those super-IT types somehow find it difficult to set up a Sony handheld for a 100 bucks in the room and then upload that shit on Youtube.

Wasteland 2's LA was terrible.

You must be the only person in the world to think Wasteland's 2 problem was the California part. Even the detractors admit it was the game's strong suit.
For me personally Wasteland 2 - the Director's Cut version - is one of the best RPGs ever made, easily on par with Fallout 2.

I played the release version, not director's cut. It felt kinda empty and in fact I dropped the game there.
I just watched the ending on youtube, which I also found quite bad. And I am one of those motherfuckers who kickstarted this to the tune of 60 bucks.

 

[Paul_cz]

Btw, is the version of KCD showcased at gamescom patched to include the facial anims that were missing from E3 build ? I wonder if they are continuing to damage their own marketing or not.

 

[cvv]

Btw, is the version of KCD showcased at gamescom patched to include the facial anims that were missing from E3 build ? I wonder if they are continuing to damage their own marketing or not.

There's a Toby interview in German, from what I understood with my rudimentary krautspeak he said facial animation and lipsync is the main focus of the studio right now (and prolly will be until the launch).

 

[Paul_cz]

Btw, is the version of KCD showcased at gamescom patched to include the facial anims that were missing from E3 build ? I wonder if they are continuing to damage their own marketing or not.

There's a Toby interview in German, from what I understood with my rudimentary krautspeak he said facial animation and lipsync is the main focus of the studio right now (and prolly will be until the launch).

I know that, but iirc smejki here said maybe in gamescom build it could be implemented for showcase already.

 

[Iznaliu]

Meanwhile Vavra gave several detailed talks about the game in the last few months at various developer conferences but there's never any video. All those super-IT types somehow find it difficult to set up a Sony handheld for a 100 bucks in the room and then upload that shit on Youtube.

The game will be released in less than a year, why bother as most people prefer pretty videos from talking?

 

[vonAchdorf]

There's a peaceful path - you don't have to fight / kill any person but one in the whole game, and Vavra is considering to eliminate the need to kill that 1 person too. The guy in the interview I saw today was adamant that it's not a fighting game, but a roleplaying game.

 

[Iznaliu]

There's a peaceful path - you don't have to fight / kill any person but one in the whole game, and Vavra is considering to eliminate the need to kill that 1 person too. The guy in the interview I saw today was adamant that it's not a fighting game, but a roleplaying game.

Yes, but will it be satisfying or just added to tick the box on the feature checklist?

 

[Infinitron]

 

[vonAchdorf]

The noble at 1:39 looks a bit like Vavra.