Kingsvein - new tactical RPG from Rad Codex set in subterranean world

[Yosharian]

Alright so I found the

Spoiler

scarab

and kicked its ass, now im in this temple with buttons on the floor and what. I have no idea. I'm assuming that I need to come back later with some info or something? Cos I can't see any way to solve this

Also damn that Void Eye next to the chasm, how the heck can I create light in a chasm tile

 

[HoboForEternity]

Alright so I found the

Spoiler

scarab

and kicked its ass, now im in this temple with buttons on the floor and what. I have no idea. I'm assuming that I need to come back later with some info or something? Cos I can't see any way to solve this

Also damn that Void Eye next to the chasm, how the heck can I create light in a chasm tile

There is a long range skill that can create light.

 

[Yosharian]

wat

 

[Yosharian]

Flare? I tried Flame

Or is it Void Beam?

Ah it's fucking Void Beam isn't it, I don't have that

 

[Yosharian]

What about the scarab puzzle?

 

[Modron]

What about the scarab puzzle?

Use your choice of pushing ability to move the nearby jars onto the outermost pressure plates, push the oil barrel onto the northernmost one, and then drape your party across the three in the middle. At least that is what I did. Might want to save in case you accidently break a pot/barrel.

 

[Yosharian]

Oh I just have to put stuff on all the plates? Damn I thought it was some kind of combination puzzle lol

 

[Grampy_Bone]

I just tried different weapons until I found heavy enough items to weigh down the plates.

 

[Yosharian]

Well. This got interesting all of a sudden.

Game is a bit too easy now, I think I farmed the world map encounters a bit too much.

 

[MerchantKing]

I got the game and I've been enjoying it. I think I'm going to grind up everyone for a bit before I finish the game.

 

[Yosharian]

I think the ability to grind out infinite XP kinda makes the game too easy

World map respawn should be tied to story progression rather than resting

 

[Modron]

I think the ability to grind out infinite XP kinda makes the game too easy

World map respawn should be tied to story progression rather than resting

Show restraint or turn up the enemy ai and their stats as you progress.

 

[Yosharian]

I mean I just don't think game difficulty should be on the player to show restraint but maybe it's just me

 

[Modron]

I mean I just don't think game difficulty should be on the player to show restraint but maybe it's just me

The power curve on any game with map encounters is only ever going to be that fine tuned if said game has level/stat/skill caps or terrible level scaling. I suppose you could go the way of Sawyer and just not give xp.

 

[Yosharian]

If the encounter respawn was tied to triggers from story beats then there would be a finite amount of xp/loot in the game

You don't need caps or scaling

 

[HoboForEternity]

I play on the second hardest difficulty and smartest enemy AI and the game is sufficiently challenging.

 

[Yosharian]

I play on the second hardest difficulty and smartest enemy AI and the game is sufficiently challenging.

Second hardest after unlocking Ruin?

 

[Grampy_Bone]

I think the system as designed already limits you. Grinding In this game is really only so effective, most abilities are frontloaded with all their power coming from stats and builds, extra levels providing range and such. Most classes can't even be maxed out without very heavy map grinding, and it's hard to see much benefit from that. You could grind heavily and gain +1-3 damage points over a casual run but that shouldn't be enough to tip the game from very hard to very easy.

The only real benefit of grinding is making your characters more versatile and getting more abilities to experiment with, which shouldn't necessarily trivialize any enounters.

 

[Yosharian]

I think the system as designed already limits you. Grinding In this game is really only so effective, most abilities are frontloaded with all their power coming from stats and builds, extra levels providing range and such. Most classes can't even be maxed out without very heavy map grinding, and it's hard to see much benefit from that. You could grind heavily and gain +1-3 damage points over a casual run but that shouldn't be enough to tip the game from very hard to very easy.

The only real benefit of grinding is making your characters more versatile and getting more abilities to experiment with, which shouldn't necessarily trivialize any enounters.

Yes I was thinking the same thing last night, there is a limit to how strong you can get

Still, I think it's a significant advantage. I do understand the rationale though, it makes the game more forgiving if you pick a class you later decide you don't want to use.

 

[MpuMngwana]

As usual for Rad Codex game it's a sidegrade to previous titles rather than a straight improvement, but since the overall formula is very good I'm not complaining much. I think I liked the speed-based initiative system of the earlier games better then the "you go - enemy goes" system used here (especially since delayed abilities are useless except for crowd control), and your party being composed mostly of mineral people is a bit of a bummer. On the positive side of things it's finally a return to a single, highly interactive, interconnected location type of world design last seen in Voidspire, and it adds dedicated grinding locations which I feel benefits this type of game (you're more likely to experiment with character builds if you know you can patch things up if things don't end up working as you intended).

I probably ended up missing a large chunk of content, and probably even some exploration-related special items (for instance I couldn't reach the final boss area until I fully upgraded the Gatekeeper's teleport ability, and I feel like it's probable there is some other way to get there I failed to find). Maybe I'll do a more thorough run sometime in the future, since the mix of freeform exploration, FFT-style progression and turn-based combat remains as compelling as ever. I'm super glad to see what is in my eyes a return to form after Horizon's Gate failed to grab me when it came out.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

The wing boots you find in the final dungeon let you cross 2 square gaps.

 

[MpuMngwana]

Yeah, I expected it was something like that. The fact that you can miss such an important item and still use your abilities to navigate the map is yet another compliment for the game.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

It's just in an innocuous chest early on the dungeon. Might help if he dressed up the room a bit to male it clear its a special item or added a bit of dialogue from party members saying the boots allow more exploration.

 

[Yosharian]

 

[Cyberarmy]

Man ahahaha, how they discover this kind of shit is beyond me.