1eyedking Lack of a party is the true core problem with Bethesda games

[prodigydancer]

i wasn't talking about adding party TB to a game already made but start with that premise.

I'll be surprised if we'll see any radical changes in TESVI at all, other than Denuvo that will probably make it unmoddable.

 

[pippin]

In the meantime, play Bethesda's remake of Ultima 8

 

[Doktor Best]

In the meantime, play Bethesda's remake of Ultima 8

This is so quintessencially Bethesda. Run up to an enemy, spam fucking attack button and look at moronic animations until enemy drops.

This is the fucking problem of Bethesda games, there is no gameplay in the game, no interesting form of player input. There are no meaningful choices in dialogue, there are no meaningful choices in exploration (everything is scaled bruh! total freedom bruh!!!), no meaningful choice in combat.

Usually, even mediocre rpgs atleast get one of those keypoints of rpg gameplay sufficiently done while severely lacking in other regards. Bethesda does not have those severly lacking mechanics, but there is just also nothing the game is worth playing for really. Its like a zombie rpg, made for zombie players.

 

[mondblut]

I mean, was there any other game that had a party, free movement and TB combat other than Wizardry 8 and Wizards & Warriors?

Thunderscape, M&M6-9, Realms of Arkania 3, even fucking Frayed Knights. Everyone tried to jump on free movement bandwagon in second half of 90s.

 

[buru5]

This is the fucking problem of Bethesda games, there is no gameplay in the game,

Stopped taking you seriously right here.

 

[mondblut]

The Quest is almost a good game, but yeah, 1 character is dumb, especially for a turn based game. It would be a lot better if it was real time, or if they let you have a party of 4.

They already did The Quest with a party, it's called Legacy.

 

[Excidium II]

Fallout 3 has a party right in the start.

 

[Lady_Error]

I mean, was there any other game that had a party, free movement and TB combat other than Wizardry 8 and Wizards & Warriors?

Thunderscape, M&M6-9, Realms of Arkania 3, even fucking Frayed Knights. Everyone tried to jump on free movement bandwagon in second half of 90s.

Well, the question should have been: Any game that came out after Wizardry 8 and Wizards & Warriors? Only Frayed Knights?

 

[Doktor Best]

This is the fucking problem of Bethesda games, there is no gameplay in the game,

Stopped taking you seriously right here.

Its okay, you will understand one day.

 

[buru5]

This is the fucking problem of Bethesda games, there is no gameplay in the game,

Stopped taking you seriously right here.

Its okay, you will understand one day.

The moment I can understand utter nonsense consider me Sheogorath.

 

[mondblut]

I mean, was there any other game that had a party, free movement and TB combat other than Wizardry 8 and Wizards & Warriors?

Thunderscape, M&M6-9, Realms of Arkania 3, even fucking Frayed Knights. Everyone tried to jump on free movement bandwagon in second half of 90s.

Well, the question should have been: Any game that came out after Wizardry 8 and Wizards & Warriors? Only Frayed Knights?

After Wzardry 8 the second half of 90s was over, and with it so were blobbers.

 

[Background Character]

Nah, I prefer party-less games.

That doesn't mean I play Bethesda games come on, I got more sense than that.

 

[Sigourn]

Lack of party has absolutely nothing to do with Bethesda's problems. In fact, with its retarded AI, lack of a party is actually a positive.

 

[Lhynn]

I like rpgs where you control a single character.

 

[abnaxus]

Lydia killed all teh dragons.

 

[anvi]

The Quest is almost a good game, but yeah, 1 character is dumb, especially for a turn based game. It would be a lot better if it was real time, or if they let you have a party of 4.

They already did The Quest with a party, it's called Legacy.

What is that?

 

[anvi]

the fucking problem of Bethesda games, there is no gameplay in the game Its like a zombie rpg, made for zombie players.

That is why it sells 20 zillion copies and never improves. They don't want to improve it because the braindead fans love it as it is.

 

[mondblut]

The Quest is almost a good game, but yeah, 1 character is dumb, especially for a turn based game. It would be a lot better if it was real time, or if they let you have a party of 4.

They already did The Quest with a party, it's called Legacy.

What is that?

http://redshift.hu/legacypc.htm

 

[Lilura]

Jagged Alliance 2 > Wizardry 8 + AoD.

 

[V_K]

Well, the question should have been: Any game that came out after Wizardry 8 and Wizards & Warriors? Only Frayed Knights?

Gods: Lands of Infinity, of course.
Fake edit: Oh, and Paper Sorcerer.

 

[anvi]

Gods LOI was cool...

The Quest is almost a good game, but yeah, 1 character is dumb, especially for a turn based game. It would be a lot better if it was real time, or if they let you have a party of 4.

They already did The Quest with a party, it's called Legacy.

What is that?

http://redshift.hu/legacypc.htm

:O Thanks!

 

[anvi]

Mond can you get a demo of that? It looks promising but so obscure.