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Completed Let's Battle for Dune! #12 Failure is death (finished)

Which of the Noble Houses of the Landsraad will the Codex Hive mind advise?

  • The Noble Atreides

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • The Evil Harkonnen

    Votes: 5 50.0%
  • The Insidious Ordos

    Votes: 3 30.0%

  • Total voters
    10

Storyfag

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Ulminati said:
not to mention the ixians canonically allied with the filthy atreidies.

Eh? I thought the EVUL IXIANS oppressed the good and noble Richesians. And it was the Richesians who where friends with the Atreides...

Hellraiser said:
Storyfag said:
My votes are:
6) Gara Kulon (Ordos) - Ragheads have a camp here.
A) Ixian - it wasn't grown in a tank of flesh. Also SCIENCE and EMMA WATSON!

All of you who have voted 5B, for the love of our Baron, reconsider! If you REALLY want to ally with the Bene Tleilax, pick another territory to attack. Attacking this one WILL prove unfortunate, believe my spice-fuelled prophecy!

Oh now I remembered what that missions was :smug:

If those morons have their way and 5B wins, at least allow us to vote again when you know what happens.
 

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Storyfag said:
Ulminati said:
not to mention the ixians canonically allied with the filthy atreidies.
If those morons have their way and 5B wins, at least allow us to vote again when you know what happens.

Don't spoil the fun, although I guess I'll call a vote on what to do if ITZ happens as I think it will. Choices and consequences :smug:
 

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I had more fun using Ix units so ally with them. Also help them attack that Tleilaxiu base.
 
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Hellraiser said:
Multiple Sarcasm said:
Unless you can kill the Fremen AND ally with Tleilaxu in one mission, in this game (in which case I'll vote 6B).
Don't worry bro! The way the vote works is that if Tleilaxu win but we attack a territory with the Ixians we'll ignore the Ixians (or attack them for the EVULZ). Basically it means we'll help the Tleilaxu if they are present in a mission to ally with them. Assuming we vote to attack a region where they are present or if we get lucky and they appear when we defend a region against attack.
Alrighty then. 6B it is. How dare those injuns go camping on Harkonnen territory?!


Also, Storyfag's premonition may have slightly influenced my decision. But I admit nothing. :obviously:


PS: If 5 doesn't win, could you show us the ITZ that didn't happen as an alternative future-past that could've been, Hellraiser?
 

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lightbane said:
So, I suppose the prequel books are terribad, Sceptic? I've never read these.
"Terribad" is an understatement. They're part horrible rape, part badly ripping off Herbert's own plot elements, and the rest is filled up by copying VERBATIM from the old books.
 

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Sceptic said:
lightbane said:
So, I suppose the prequel books are terribad, Sceptic? I've never read these.
"Terribad" is an understatement. They're part horrible rape, part badly ripping off Herbert's own plot elements, and the rest is filled up by copying VERBATIM from the old books.

Well, what did you expect from novels writings co-committed by Kevin J. Anderson? The man's a hack and I'm surprised BiowEAr didn't hire him yet.
 

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Storyfag said:
Well, what did you expect from novels writings co-committed by Kevin J. Anderson? The man's a hack and I'm surprised BiowEAr didn't hire him yet.

But then David Gaider would have serious competition for the "worst novel writer on board" annual Bioware award. So I guess he would cockblock any of EA's attempts at hiring him. Hell he might even threaten to not include heterosexual romance in the next Bioware game unless they don't hire him!

Oh and FYI there is only one more vote for 5 than there is for 6.
Also there is a landslide for allying with the Tleilaxu but that is rather obvious.

Voting is still open until I count the votes at the first chance I get during the day tomorrow potato time. If we'll have a tie I'll let a coin toss the supreme court decide the outcome.
 

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Hellraiser said:
Storyfag said:
My votes are:
6) Gara Kulon (Ordos) - Ragheads have a camp here.
A) Ixian - it wasn't grown in a tank of flesh. Also SCIENCE and EMMA WATSON!

All of you who have voted 5B, for the love of our Baron, reconsider! If you REALLY want to ally with the Bene Tleilax, pick another territory to attack. Attacking this one WILL prove unfortunate, believe my spice-fuelled prophecy!

Oh now I remembered what that missions was :smug:

I was going to vote 6A, but now I have to vote 5B (unless it's possible to do 5A).
 

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The Hivemind has voted, the result is clear.

We take Gara Kulun Habbanya Erg and ally with the Tleilaxu by helping them if such an opportunity arises while killing ignoring the Ix.

Also I have good news for you Storyfag!

IT IS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID WHAT YOU WANTED TO AVOID IN EMPEROR BATTLE FOR DUNE. SO NO VOTE AND ITZ WILL COME IN THE NEXT UPDATE.

:troll:
 

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Hellraiser said:
The Hivemind has voted, the result is clear.

We take Gara Kulon and ally with the Tleilaxu by helping them if such an opportunity arises while killing ignoring the Ix.

Also I have good news for you Storyfag!

IT IS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID WHAT YOU WANTED TO AVOID IN EMPEROR BATTLE FOR DUNE. SO NO VOTE AND ITZ WILL COME IN THE NEXT UPDATE.

:troll:

Well fuck you too.

However! I had the impression that

The upcoming mission will pit the Tleilaxlu against our current allies the Sardaukar. If that is so, I'd still like to have that vote. That would allow me to at least voice my preference towards conserving our alliance with the Sardaukar at the expense of allying with the Bene Tleilax.
 

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Storyfag said:
Well fuck you too.

However! I had the impression that

The upcoming mission will pit the Tleilaxlu against our current allies the Sardaukar. If that is so, I'd still like to have that vote. That would allow me to at least voice my preference towards conserving our alliance with the Sardaukar at the expense of allying with the Bene Tleilax.

That is what I was planning to do until I played that mission a bunch of times and unfortunately realized that:

1) The script to break the alliance executes the moment the mission starts, you cannot build Sardaukar units at all in that mission (unlike the other mission where we could have allied with the Tleilaxu). An alliance with the Tleilaxu instantly makes the Sardaukar butthurt.
2) Regardless of what you do (help the tleilaxu, do nothing, kill the Tleilaxu before the first Sardaukar wave spawns etc.) the Sardaukar will always be butthurt after you finish it. Now I could have LARP that we aided the Sardaukar but there is no save game editor so I can't just restore our alliance after the mission.

Still the game gives no warning that the Sardaukar (and Fremen IIRC) are butthurt over the Tleilaxu collecting samples from the corpses of their dead. Unlike the Ix where it is possible to be allied with them and the Tleilaxu if you carefully pick missions it is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE to do that with the Sardaukar. Westwood just trolled everybody basically.

The Hivemind shot itself in the foot and democracy is a failure. But it doesn't matter since we will have a chance to ally with the Sardaukar again in the future. So we will have a Sardaukar vs Tleilaxu vote as soon as the option to restore the alliance presents itself.

EDIT:

Forgot to add, redoing the previous vote because of it's unforseen consequence is obviously not an option because it goes against the C&C principles of the Codex.
 

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Hellraiser said:
That is what I was planning to do until I played that mission a bunch of times and unfortunately realized that:

1) The script to break the alliance executes the moment the mission starts, you cannot build Sardaukar units at all in that mission (unlike the other mission where we could have allied with the Tleilaxu). An alliance with the Tleilaxu instantly makes the Sardaukar butthurt.
2) Regardless of what you do (help the tleilaxu, do nothing, kill the Tleilaxu before the first Sardaukar wave spawns etc.) the Sardaukar will always be butthurt after you finish it. Now I could have LARP that we aided the Sardaukar but there is no save game editor so I can't just restore our alliance after the mission.

Still the game gives no warning that the Sardaukar (and Fremen IIRC) are butthurt over the Tleilaxu collecting samples from the corpses of their dead. Unlike the Ix where it is possible to be allied with them and the Tleilaxu if you carefully pick missions it is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE to do that with the Sardaukar. Westwood just trolled everybody basically.

The Hivemind shot itself in the foot and democracy is a failure. But it doesn't matter since we will have a chance to ally with the Sardaukar again in the future. So we will have a Sardaukar vs Tleilaxu vote as soon as the option to restore the alliance presents itself.

Eh? Didn't remember the game being THAT derp. Oh well, maybe we'll get to fix the mistake :salute:
 

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Update 4: A tale corpses and butthurt.

Music: Dark Alliance

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The Harkonnen forces are sent to Habbanya Erg. A Tleilaxu base is under attack there. We'll just defend them and crush the Ordos.

What could possibly go wrong?

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: Problem? :troll:

:rage:

Great the fucking Mentat forgot to mention that the Tleilaxu were collecting "samples" from Sardaukar tombs.
By samples I mean corpses or at least bits of them.

Fucking fantastic.

Oh before you ask (in case you didn't read the spoilers from my last 2 posts). IT IS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID BREAKING THE ALLIANCE WITH THE SARDAUKAR IN THIS MISSION.
If it was we would have a vote if we want to remain loyal to the Sardaukar or not. But since we can either piss them both of or just the Sardaukar we'll go
with the Tleilaxu since they won the vote anyway. Basically the game instantly breaks the alliance with Sardaukar if you ally with the Tleilaxu. I checked the other
mission it is the same thing. Odds are we will get a chance to switch alliances again provided you vote in favor but for now the Tleilaxu will be our creepy fleshcrafting friends.

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Two new long range units (including inkvine incline catapults) and gunship ornithopters. We now have access to most of the Harkonnen arsenal.

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: About fucking time Commander! These shit Sardaukar pussies want to "retaliate" for "desecrating" their tombs. They worship the dead flesh of their fallen comrades when we can give it a new purpose, a new life. They fail to grasp the importance and benefits of our work.

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As if babysitting the fleshcrafting fetishists wasn't enough their base is on the opposite side of the map. Time to make use of the M in MCV.

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Along the way some Tleilaxu units are removed from the inventory found in the desert.

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A rocky area suitable for a base is found near the Tleilaxu outpost.

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Our only (for the moment :smug:) leech is sent to find some Ordos harvesters. It managed to find and infect one before the carry-all grabs it.

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As mentioned in the FMV leeches infect enemy vehicles making them take slow damage over time and causing them to spawn a new leech when they die. They can be removed using engineers or by friendly fire (one hit will do IIRC).
The AI doesn't remove them at all since it is too stupid.

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: This is Commander Sheppard of the Imperial Sardaukar! You will pay for your crimes against the Sardaukar tleilaxu dog!

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: You see this Commander? His banal brain clings to the idea that rotting flesh is sacred! His flawed sense of morality demands that the body is wasted after death.

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: Scum like you deserves the most EXTREME punishment. You will have it, mark my words!

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: His threats are so banal, shit and boring. Commander just fucking kill them already so that I may return to my studies. We will reward you for your troubles obviously.

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: What is the meaning of this?

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: YOU BACKSTABBING DOG! You ran over my men?! :x

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: You shouldn't have allowed the Ordos to help you in your fight against the Tleilaxu. You betrayed us first, we are merely returning the favor.

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: I will not forget this! Once I deal with these Tleilaxu and their so-called "Master" you will be next.

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: Remember who you are dealing with Sardaukar! The Harkonnen will claim Arrakis and the Golden Lion throne. Our victory is inevitable and you will kneel before us sooner or later.

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: MEN! PUT THESE DOGS DOWN! :x

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Chop chop! :smug:

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: Oh look, these Sardaukar are already broken down into smaller pieces. It should make dumping them in the axlotl tanks easier.

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Problem harvester? :troll:

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:rage:

Fucking desert planet sandstorms!

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The Ordos tried to flank us. They failed.

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: KILL ALL TLEILAXU!

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Guess what the outcome of that skirmish was? Here is a hint:

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:smug:

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: Commander I believe your squadron of our new Ornithopter Gunships is ready. Perhaps you wish to test their combat capability?

Might as well send them to scout and bomb some shit.

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Wait harvesters? Turn on "Ride of the Valkyrie" boys time to do some damage.

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ota

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Just FYI those 2 missile pairs you ssaw were enough to destroy that laser tank. Pure air unit :incline:
Like most air units in westwood RTS these need to replenish their ammo at the helipad landing pad.

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Meanwhile Sheppard does not give up easily.

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Did I mention inkvine incline fluid gets lit up by fire and explosions burning everything around? :smug:

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: I WILL RETURN TO SLAY YOU DOGS!

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: You have performed adequately, not as good as I would have preferred not totally shit. I Master Skyway of the Tleilaxu will provide you with our technology.

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Time to crush the Ordos.

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They received reinforcements from all 5 regions at the same time which slowed down the prestigious Harkonnen army.

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It better be if we pissed off the Sardaukar. :rpgcodex:

Continued in next post...
 

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Oh look the Atreides still butthurt from the tasteless rape the Ordos gave them now try to attack us.

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INCOMING BUTTHURT

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A useful unit you can also use for some very lulzy shenanigans.

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No true Harkonnen base is complete without having gallows around. Now we need to find and kill the Atreides before they spam me to death with Minotaurs.

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Technically with the one flametank I have and some missile troopers I could end this mission in 2 minutes flat tops. But what fun would that be?

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Hey just because the Sardaukar are butthurt does not mean we can't find some of them in the desert that are still BROs to us.

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Still too easy, and we have the Sardaukar Butthurt Retaliation squad to worry about.

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: I do not forget and I do not forgive! You bastards will pay! :x

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Damn it we could really use those reinforcements right now.

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: Do not worry Commander. These Sardaukar have been contaminated by our facedancer agent some time ago. Now their flesh serves you.

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The Atreides have gotten too comfortable here.

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Problem harvesters? :troll:

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The brave and bloodthirsty Harkonnen soldiers have broken through the Atreides perimeter :salute:

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: HOW DARE THESE SHIT ATREIDES ATTACK MY AXLOTL TANK! KILL THEM COMMANDER! :x

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Ugh minotaurs, a very annoying unit to face. Even more so than Ordos Mortars and Kobras because they fire in 4 shot volleys. That AOE combined with their range and armor makes them a very hard unit to counter.

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: I will not rest until I have my vengeance!

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: I have a feeling even the best of my genetic engineers won't be able to purge all the banal, shit and boring out of the ghola that will be made of you.

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: DON'T FUCKING BURN THEM HARKONNEN! I NEED THEIR FLESH!

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Now that the Sardaukar are dealt with time to return to killing the Atreides.

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:yeah:

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The shit Ordos decide to beat up the shit Atreides for a change. As one could expect they fail to capture the territory.

However something is brewing on Giedi Prime...

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FMV - Civil War

Why the fuck didn't they just start shooting/stabbing each other instead of just walking away. :rpgcodex:

VOTING TIME

Which of the two baron-spawn will we aid in this war of succession?

A) Evil CLEVE Rabban Copec Harkonnen - he's the eldest son and he killed the Baron so he obviosuly deserves the title of Baron Harkonnen.
B) Feyd Rautha Gunseng Harkonnen - the late Baron was pleased with his progress on Arrakis and he did anticipate Copec's patricide. He has the brains needed to be a proper Harkonnen Baron and later Emperor.
 

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A - Copec's more fun. And we don't want a boss that's too smart, now, do we ?
 
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None of them deserve to be Harkonnen, not even the late Baron Krusty.

But have to vote B: Gunseng lacks ruthlessness, but Copec is too much of a moron to be Emperor of the known universe.


Also, :x about the break of our alliance with Sardaukar. I would've preferred them over Tleilaxu, if I knew of the impending butthurt.
 

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Copec's the Fool.

Gunseng for Greatness!
 

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