Anime Let's play: Strangeland (Finished)

[Darth Roxor]

The last time we left the downbeaten dude, a head in a box just read him his tarot for the past, present and future. It left him none the wiser.

Spoiler

Standing around the well room, the dude realised something important.

He was now prepared to get rid of Maxie.

Combining Nepenthe™ with the meat yields us...

A knock-out marinade.

Time to take your medicine, cur.

pop!

Maxie vanishes. He's probably back in the shoutbox at long last.

Past the dog there's a way forward, as well as a sign and a booth.

Sign:

"Beware of Dog." Thanks guys.



Booth:

Huh, some carnie left himself a to-do list taped to the wall in here: "Too many winners... turn up the skull speed."

oh you asshole

"Shut down MOTD. Starfish keeps spitting acid on guests."

"Find something for Ozzy Maxie to chew on."

A caring owner right there.

Moving on.

Weird

Creepy

Not much to do here. The tracks that go offscreen reportedly lead up, but the dude says there's no way he can walk that distance, and there's also no coaster car in sight. All we can do is talk to these three "masquettes".

Three women wearing masks... I think?

Who are you?

Well, we're sure not Valkyries! (Don't let that sign confuse you.)

For bonus points, try to find how many revios online refer to them as, in fact, valkyries :D

And we're not Fates, neither, just 'cause there's three of us.

That's more Murmur's thing.

And we're not Weird Sisters! (Even if we *are* strange. After all, you're stranger still.)

Okay, you said who you're *not* - but who *are* you?

Just think of us as fragments,

Figments,

Pigments!

*Ugh*

What? We're here to add color, aren't we?

Do you have names?

The Three Masketeers!

*Ugh*

Look, I'm sure you mean well. But everybody knows not to give their name to a stranger.

I learnt that the hard way in Blair Witch Project!

What's with the masks?

Everyone wears them.

You've got one too!

What?!

We all have a role to play.

Strangeland confirmed RPG.

And in this story, there's only room for one Woman.

That's why we've gotta be guys.

What's *under* the mask?

Nothing!

Legends say it's death to gaze upon a masker unmasked.

But I bet you don't pay attention to foolish gossip like that!

Yeah, there's Nothing to fear under here! Get it?

*Ugh*

An inconspicuous "gaze" option appears at the end of the dialogue topics. For absolutely no reason at all, we'll leave it for last.

What do you mean *I'm* wearing a mask?

Aw, come on, stranger. You don't *really* think you escaped from some sanitarium, sporting a retro straitjacket and movie-star stubble?

We all dress our best to fit what we think the world wants.

And in a Strangeland, it suits a man to be estranged.

I met an old scribe under a tree...

Oh, he's the worst! His handwriting's terrible! I wanted Eight-Three to make me a "gaggle of bagels," and you don't even *want* to guess what I wound up with when I showed him the note that old man wrote.

Actually, I do want to guess! But nothing comes to mind.

Where am I?

Well, stranger, I've a feeling you're not in Kansas anymore.

Oh, come on, enough with the one-liners.

Fine. You're at wit's end.

Just cut the poor guy a break!

All right then. We'll call it the breaking point.

Don't let that old crab get you down! Remember what they say: "Home is where the heart is."

I heard "hell is where the heart is."

What can you tell me about Murmur?

He's got a head for prophecies.

There was a golden-haired woman, who...

*The* Woman!

There's only one of them in your story.

We won't judge.

Can you tell me anything about her?

She's trying to save you.

You need to find her.

You're kind of a Hansel in distress.

Where can I find her?

Up,

up,

and away!

not helping

What's the deal with that valkyrie ride?

The Ride of the Valkyrie, technically.

A one-way ticket up!

But where's the coaster car?

Haven't you ever heard of calling a ride?!

I can really just call the valkyrie?

Why, so can I, or so can any man; but will it *come* when you do call for it?

You know, you can't call her unless you have her number!

And we can't help you there.

Do you know anything about the Dark Thing?

I'm scared of the dark!

While I wait for the dusk.

You'll find out soon enough

And the moment you've all been waiting for.

Dialogue interface disappears to show that the dude really never could take a hint

Can't say we didn't warn him.

Fade to black...

well then

And he also freaks out for good measure.

Moving on.

Guess the funnybone's one of the first things to go!

Turns out the raven has some new data.

Did you say something about an "idle offer"?

No, that animatronic card-sharp did! Or did he say "idyll afar"? The trouble with prophecies is the words have always got a double meaning.

Why did you say "wince and wither"?

Isn't that what the head said? 'Cause we ravens know all about the moment between wince and wither... Long, short, it all comes down to the same thing. When living becomes dying, and we get ready to dip our beaks.

Did you say "call"?

No, *he* said it! "Call 4-3-something-something-something."

And with this, the dude is once again left pondering the inside of the well room. Is it just me or do suspiciously many updates begin and end here?

Anyways, it seems we need to somehow establish kommunikashun with the valkyrie. We have already learnt everything we need to do for it.

I don't know how many people who haven't played the game actually follow this LP, but can you provide the answer to the above conundrum? Most folks fail here and need to get a hint, it seems. So now is the time to find out whether the codex hivemind has a galaxy brain!

 

[CappenVarra]

countdown to extinction?

 

[Darth Roxor]

good album but not the right answer

 

[CappenVarra]

oh, you mean i have to pay attention? damn

lost? call 431

the other 2 numbers from the tarot cards chosen for *her*:

the empress 3
the chariot 7

There's some kind of bulletin board on the left.

!!

It's her! "431." It's been torn off after the first three digits.

And tell me, what card will we lay for *her*?

Which one suits that ride, that *Valkyrie*, which promises to bear you up to where the great battle awaits?

or we could spell the chariot as "52", dunno

 

[MRY]

Didn't even notice this LP. Thanks for giving it a play Darth Roxor. Always thought your LP of Primordia was the best.

 

[Jrpgfan]

good album but not the right answer

Spoiler

Go ask murmur. He'll tell you the numbers(pay attention to the word "wanton" - there's a wordplay there that's apparently a little more difficult for non-native english speakers to get).

Don't, under any circumstances, ask for a hint on this one. Phone guy will call you an idiot and that might hurt your feelings.

 

[Darth Roxor]

The last time we left the depressed dude, he just couldn't stop himself from looking under women's clothing. Can anyone blame him?

Spoiler

Time to call a ride.

CappenVarra was on the right track that you have to call the 431- number, and that the rest of it was hidden in the tarot section, but he didn't get it entirely right.

But since there are no free rides, you gotta put a quarter into the phone first.

As for the phone number,

It's 4311013. How do we get this? You have to refer to Murmur's final prophecy for the future:

You will call for three, wanton one, three.

You will call for (4) three (3), wanton (1-10; one-ten) one (1), three (3).

Surprisingly enough nearly everyone seems to fail to get this. Though I myself needed two guesses, because initially I interpreted "wanton" as one-two, since it feels more in-line with dictating a set of numbers, but 'ten' in lieu of 'two' was my immediate second guess when it failed.

A melodramatic woman's voice answers the phone.

Ah... I guess so?

Are you grown enough to bear the strain?

Yyyyyyes?

Then on wind and through cloud shall thunder the Three!

A coaster car riding forward at a leisurely pace is not exactly what you'd expect after the phone call.

Time to go.

The middle masquette says "told ya" when we zone in.

What... what did I *see* under there?

You saw the reason why everyone wears masks. I promise we won't ask to look under *yours*.

I thought everyone wore them because of the coof

See! I called the valkyrie!

Now, if only you could command the devil.

He can shame the devil by telling the truth! That's what the bard says.

Weapons at ready, it is time.

weeeeeeeeeeeeee

Auspicious

End of the line.

The car heads back down the tracks, while the dude starts freaking out.

damn son

Dark Thing!

Dude draws ZE DAGGER

You are going to die. And she is going to live! Do you hear me?!

The Dark Thing's name tag is under constant distortion. Examining it makes the dude freak out.

Just looking at it is agony. I need to kill it.

FABULOUSLY optimistic.

The cage is held shut by a bar.

Dude reaches for it and pulls it out.

I'm coming for you.

The cage pops open.

To nobody's surprise, the dude freaks out and is paralysed by fear.

The world goes through the biggest distortions yet while the Dark Thing keeps shrieking.

And then it flows out of the cage...

I don't think you've thought this through very well my dude.

Watch yer step!

Accidents will happen.

Dude collides with the big tree as he falls down.

And I get to say, "I don't wanna tell you a joke." A lot easier than comin' up with new material.

Entering the well room, we can hear Murmur spinning up.

Querent!

Now DarkUnderlord is loosed from his throne, your M'lady is caged, and you, like a

are bound to the cycle, the circle, the Retardo Land. You will wear yourself to nothing on this journey to nowhere, unless you fly free.

Uh-oh, there are shadowy things coming out of the ground.

UH-OH

Dude is pushed back

and lifted into the air?

SPLAT!

So long, Murmur.

The Dark Thing vanishes as suddenly as it appeared.

And the phone rings as the dude lands back on the floor.

*You* are the one who opened the cage. But everyone else is going to suffer. It's not going to stop with Murmur. It's not even going to stop with *her*.

Andhaira hangs up.

You said death was different, but what about Murmur?

Guess it was his time to go.

For him, the suffering is over.

The Dark Thing has done a nasty thing on him for sure.

It's as if Murmur's head has been hollowed out.

And das it for today. Next time we shall explore the WEIRD CARNIVAL once again to see what changes now that the Dark Thing has been unleashed.

 

[CappenVarra]

whoever reads "wanton one" as 1-10-1 has ordered too much chinese food over the phone

 

[baud]

Now DarkUnderlord is loosed from his throne, your M'lady is caged, and you, like a

are bound to the cycle, the circle, the Retardo Land. You will wear yourself to nothing on this journey to nowhere, unless you fly free.

And where did you find picture of valkyrie?

 

[Darth Roxor]

whoever reads "wanton one" as 1-10-1 has ordered too much chinese food over the phone

For what it's worth, I think it's easier to notice in the game itself, because the voiceover says "one ten" rather than "wanton" very clearly, at least to me.

And where did you find picture of valkyrie?

Google images

 

[CappenVarra]

whoever reads "wanton one" as 1-10-1 has ordered too much chinese food over the phone

For what it's worth, I think it's easier to notice in the game itself, because the voiceover says "one ten" rather than "wanton" very clearly, at least to me.

fair enough, though it doesn't come across well in LP pictures

 

[Darth Roxor]

The last time we left the downtrodden dude, he'd just made a very bad mistake and unleashed THE DARK THING upon the WEIRDASS CARNIVAL.

Spoiler

First things first, we investigate our would-be landing site.

It's tied too well.

Sigh

There! Huh... it seems like it's grown longer.

Life always gives you a rope long enough to hang yourself, and then some.

Optimistic!

There's more to get here though.

That part at the base looks ready to break off.

Meanwhile the smugraven keeps bombing us with lovely words such as "cytotoxic", "classroom" and "toenails".

Also, investigating the inventory I note that the dude kept the bar he got from the Dark Thing's cage.

The Dark Thing... it *destroyed* Murmur.

"The fool feels he'll live forever, if the fight he faces not. But woes grow worse with age than all the spears that spared him."

For good measure I get another slice of "bread" before leaving.

Also cutting the noose reminded me I forgot to try to cut my way into this tent. But alas.

The knife's not sharp enough to cut through the canvas.

Either this knife is made of cardboard, or that's one freaking panzertent.

Anyway,

CRAFTUNG TIME

Das cool.

I need you to make me weapons.

Did I not give you the Beak, a blade that cuts deep?

so deep it cant cut a stupid tent

Did I not make that work to order, as I swore? Trouble me no more with begging, and wield what you were given.

I need you to make this dagger sharper.

Fool! You begged for Beak, and that is what I gave you: a blade whose bite is fit for what you asked. Now you want more? What you crave is a softer world or a crueler edge. For that, you must find other tools and other folk; you will get no better from Eight-Three.

NO REFUNDS!

This is one lousy smith tbh.

Still, as you might imagine, the claws and the noose combine in the obvious way.

Let us continue exploring.

The Dark Thing is floating under the tracks in the background.

What's it doing?!

It is, in fact, wrecking the tracks.

and now the dude starts literally shaking

huh

With this the vision ends.

Let's take a look over here.

Looks a bit... bald to me.



moving on

Dude is pushed back upon arrival!

and here comes the Dark Thing

NO!

rip coaster car

What did the Dark Thing *do* to the car?

It snuffed the spirit lamps.

Without spirits, the valkyrie has no reason to ride.

You must find a way to kindle them again.

You have to help me kill the Dark Thing!

Masks don't make us heroes.

That's not our job in this story.

We're really just the peanut gallery.

The chorus:

strophe,

antistrophe,

and epode!

Chorus girls!

No, no, we're supposed to be *guys.*

Well, whatever we are, we're not mentors.

So look for help somewhere else.

Useless!

Let's see what the Dark Thing did.

There are five spirit lamps by the "engine". We're gonna have to light those somehow, and we don't have the means to do it yet.

I decide to complain to the manager!

The Three who whisked you skyward have gone dark. They will ride once more with five spirits to bear.

N O R E F U N D S

Nevertheless, we can put the new grapple to work now.

dun dun dun

Come in, come in! Read the plaques! Play with the freaks! And plumb the MYSTERIES OF THE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!

But how will they compare to the Mysteries of the Sith?

Also, since we're technically in Chapter 2 now, it is only fitting for the dude to get a new face.

I can't imagine things getting much more mysterious than they already are. But let's go see what they've got.

Let us start by reading the plaques.

"Black Swan." Doesn't look much like a swan to me.

And now we can play with the freaks!

Dude touches the glass case.

oops

it cracks and shatters

I touch it; it's ruined.

Jesus Christ, cheer up already

But now we can grab the byrb itself.

In for a penny...

... but the dude only grabs its head

It's sodden with sticky oil.

"Streammaid. Donated by Rotta, Eitri and Alberich."

Eitri?

I wonder if the glass shatters like last time

Nope, instead it brings up a close-up of the Streammaid. Goddamn

That's a lot of buttons.

I whack the buttons with my fat fingers and produce lights that are clearly meant to be some sort of a popamole puzzle. I, however, have no wish of partaking in popamole puzzles. What's next, Simon Says?

This technology scares me, therefore I am declaring it illegal.

The third thingy on display is a yuge seastar.

"Marthasterias glacialis insolitus." Talk about a mouthful. "Known for its irritability and powerful gastric acid."

~The more you know!~

Let's see what happens when we use this thing.

@_@

how lovecraftian

Uhhhh... Pentagram?

@_@

@____________@

Guess it didn't like the answer.

<From a single part, my whole regrows.>

This should piss it off some more

PURGE THE UNCLEAN!

Cracks start appearing in the glass. Not sure if good.

<The sea itself serves for my blood.>

Let's try sponge?

oops

<Beneath the summer sun, we throng and fling our spawn to speckle the sea with white.>

Surely this is going to bring up nothing but the most positive associations.

something seems to happen as the thing's mouth (?) begins to expand

it spits something on the dude

the dude appears confused

guess it was that powerful gastric acid

I'll give you a hint. Don't. Trust. The Crow.

I demand answers! Where is my journal?!

The clown told me not to trust the crow.

Don't worry about it. He steals all of his material. And, anyway, I'm *not* a crow.

Bah. Answers not obtained.

We did, however, obtain a lot of useful things today. You shall witness their application the next time.

 

[CappenVarra]

well damn

the correct starfish answers seem kinda obvious?

 

[Darth Roxor]

define correct answers

 

[baud]

well damn

the correct starfish answers seem kinda obvious?

that wasn't my feeling while playing the game. And to make matter worse (or better, that depends on one's viewpoint), there's like 7 or 8 different questions

 

[ValeVelKal]

Yeah, I was not a huge fan of the starfish puzzle.

I had not much issue with the "phone number" puzzle, mostly because by beautiful and smart wife figured it out immediately after talking to the raven (or is it a crow?), though just like Roxxor we both interpreted "wanton" as one-two. one-ten was the second guess as well.

 

[Darth Roxor]

The last time we left the dejected dude, he had just been hit by the acid gun from Crusader: No Regret.

Spoiler

Before we head back to the Mysteries of the Derp, there is something we should do.

If you paid attention, you may remember that we need fire to proceed. And what's a better way to get fire than to combine a branch with an oil-covered bird head to get a torch?

It's barbaric, but hey, it works.

Now to fire it up.

Also, you may notice random shadowy bits protruding through the floor. These are present in all the locations now to remind you of the global presence of the dark thing.

The burning brand you now bear is bright enough to beat back the dark and hot enough to warm the dead. Go, and make use of it.

Dude starts literally shaking. Can't shake the feeling that he's getting PTSD attacks from the weirdest things.

Woman walks over to the other side of a disgusting fleshy platform, and the vision fades. Pretty sure the last vision was the same.

WHEN SUDDENLY!

shieeeeeeeeet

here we go again

rip eight-three

Hello? Eight-Three? He's dead.

Fortunately we got this from him before the Dark Thing did him in.

"Bright enough to beat back the dark, hot enough to warm the dead." Hmm.

Hmm! indeed.

"Warm the dead," huh? Let's give it a try.

and I live again, at least while it lasts.

Were you actually dead? What was it like?

Cold and dark -- an empty void with no air to breathe or burn, and endless time to feel the lack of life. That is what waits for us both.

The Dark Thing killed you, and I brought you back to life. Help me destroy it, for your sake and mine.

My hate burns hot for that... impurity. But my fire has grown tired, and I have given you already the gift of a burning brand.

With no work order too! BEST DEAL!

Did you help make the streammaid in the Mysteries of the Deep?

I work in metal and shape with flame. The living have no place upon my anvil. Whoever this maiden is, she was forged by others' deeds.

Well then

I wonder if it also works on dead rats.

why am I even carrying a dead rat?

IT SPEAKS!

@_@

Curious!

Items that you can use with everything are the best items.

the world starts shifting

wot da zog

Still burning with questions. The fire is fitting, and from it, we will draw truth. I see the end, querent. I see the living die and the dead speak, and the gray, grim home of ghosts. I see the one with wings rising up, ready to face his foe at last. Fool. Hermit. Hanged man. Death. Devil. Emperor. Priestess. Lover. Empress. You know what waits. You know the stakes. But I... I know no more. Now it falls to you to give the final answer.

We catch Murmur's spirit in the torch.

And it's back to normal.

Well, "normal".

We can now return to the Mysteries of the Derp.

Gee, look at all this mess. The seastar looks p. dead.

The water must have drained out when it spat at me. Not a happy ending.

Never know when some acid will come in handy.

Good you kept that bottle, my dude.

BURN, BABY, BURN

that's one buff seastar

thanks anyway

because what's an oil spill without a good conflagration?

thanks for the ride

But what will happen when I do this?

Well, let's see if we can wake her up.

@_@

Who are you? *What* are you?

I don't know... I don't know! This isn't me! I don't feel right. I can't *think* right. There are things in my head that aren't memories. And when I try to remember it's like... like my mind is full of steel wool.

Believe me, I know how you feel.

No. You have no idea.

You said "they" did something to you. Who are they?

I... I don't know. I *can't* remember. There was metal... and lights... and there were men speaking... Their voices are cold and distant. I don't understand the words. And then... they're hurting me, and I hear them say, "This will help." People like that *sign* their handiwork. If you want their names, I'm sure you can find them.

Sounds to me like she was taken prisoner by the Vietcong.

Do you know anything about the Dark Thing?

They took my sight. For me, *every* thing is dark.

There was a golden-haired woman...

[Intelligence] I was a woman once.

But I'm trying to help *another* woman.

They said they were helping me. But now I'm gone. Maybe *she's* gone too.

You said that there's something in your mind that isn't memories. What did you mean?

I don't know. I don't understand. It's like... someone carved his thoughts into my mind.

Carved *what* thoughts?

I know about metal.

I know how to make it bend to my will. How to fill it with my own pain... until it has the power to hurt, to cut, to *kill*.

I need a weapon. To kill the Dark Thing.

Of course you do. What did you have in mind?

STEEL RAIN

My dagger. Can you make it sharper? Stronger?

Oh, yes. As sharp as tragedy, as strong as despair. But... when a woman from the water gives you a blade, she always begs a boon. Are you ready to pay the price?

I'd rather hear that price first...

Yyyyyes?

My name. I want my name. Then my pain will hone you an edge that will cut right to the heart.

And how the blazes do I do that? No matter.

Let's continue our random explorations in search of spirits to burn.

Unfortunately before I can try using the torch on the shooting gallery (hey, it has three skulls, so obviously they are quite dead), the dude starts freaking out.

oh shit

TO ARMS!

I don't want to get too close.

goddamn it dude

EAT STEEL!

I don't want to get too close.

COWARDS DIE IN SHAME!

dude gets yanked away

and the dark thing stabs him dead, which we can't even see cuz of the FoV decrease

what a rotten way to die

oh hey, something new just appeared here

a bawks

It's just a box. I should definitely leave it alone.

Woss in da bawks?

pehn

Come on my dude, pick it up

Actually, maybe just this once, I'll leave it there.

YOU DARE REBEL AGAINST MY WILL? *mashes LMB on the bawks*

Well, if I have to take it, I can still just leave it closed up.

Just because I'm carrying it, doesn't mean I should open it.

now ain't that tempting

But first to conclude our previous business.

way 2spoopy4me

Back in the well room, we can also proceed safely down the well now.

What wonders await? Stay tuned to find out!

And of course, the important question - do we open THE BAWKS?

 

[CappenVarra]

does pandora hold the key to this mysterious x of a box?

 

[ValeVelKal]

It took us me ages to figure out

Spoiler

hook + well

I found out alone, because at this point my wife was fed up with the grimdark tone of the game. And she had soldiered through Dead Synchronicity:Tomorrow Comes Today so she has some resilience.

Everything else up to where you are went in a breeze, no "what should I do next".

 

[baud]

And of course, the important question - do we open THE BAWKS?

of course! Leave no box unopened, no stone unturned.
Though it seems the box doesn't always appear in the same place, I remember finding it in the same screen as the dog

It took us me ages to figure out

Spoiler

hook + well

I found out alone, because at this point my wife was fed up with the grimdark tone of the game. And she had soldiered through Dead Synchronicity:Tomorrow Comes Today so she has some resilience.

Everything else up to where you are went in a breeze, no "what should I do next".

Didn't had any issue with that, though maybe it was because I jumped in the well enough times beforehand

 

[ValeVelKal]

And of course, the important question - do we open THE BAWKS?

of course! Leave no box unopened, no stone unturned. It seems the box doesn't always appear in the same place, I remember finding it in the same screen as the dog

It moves, it showed once where the hole is, and after that since I did not pick it up (don't ask) I found it in the weel room.

 

[MRY]

It took us me ages to figure out

Spoiler

hook + well

I found out alone, because at this point my wife was fed up with the grimdark tone of the game. And she had soldiered through Dead Synchronicity:Tomorrow Comes Today so she has some resilience.

Everything else up to where you are went in a breeze, no "what should I do next".

This just goes to show the hopelessness of making adventure games. “Use grappling hook as climbing device” doesn’t seem like moon logic to me, but some number of players have gotten stuck here, not just you.

 

[ValeVelKal]

It took us me ages to figure out

Spoiler

hook + well

I found out alone, because at this point my wife was fed up with the grimdark tone of the game. And she had soldiered through Dead Synchronicity:Tomorrow Comes Today so she has some resilience.

Everything else up to where you are went in a breeze, no "what should I do next".

This just goes to show the hopelessness of making adventure games. “Use grappling hook as climbing device” doesn’t seem like moon logic to me, but some number of players have gotten stuck here, not just you.

It is absolutely not moon logic, I felt stupid when I found out, it is just that in my brain the well had become an object, not a "door" or a "passage" through which I could "go".

Moon logic to me was

Spoiler

the torch on the shooting range

but it was something my guts told me to try so I never got stuck there. I was more expecting to find an object hidden in the dark.

 

[baud]

It took us me ages to figure out

Spoiler

hook + well

I found out alone, because at this point my wife was fed up with the grimdark tone of the game. And she had soldiered through Dead Synchronicity:Tomorrow Comes Today so she has some resilience.

Everything else up to where you are went in a breeze, no "what should I do next".

This just goes to show the hopelessness of making adventure games. “Use grappling hook as climbing device” doesn’t seem like moon logic to me, but some number of players have gotten stuck here, not just you.

It is absolutely not moon logic, I felt stupid when I found out, it is just that in my brain the well had become an object, not a "door" or a "passage" through which I could "go".

Moon logic to me was

Spoiler

the torch on the shooting range

but it was something my guts told me to try so I never got stuck there. I was more expecting to find an object hidden in the dark.

Though you

Spoiler

don't really need to use the torch in the shooting range, no? There are enough spirits elsewhere, plenty of dead bodies around the carnival

 

[MRY]

Yeah. Plus it’s not per se moon logic when you’re told that’s how the device works. It’s more like magic logic or something.