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Let's talk about Lacrymas' homebrew fantasy setting where paladins are eunuchs

Lacrymas

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If you are a human (man or cleric) or any kind of adventurer, it's pretty great. You can also join a bandit gang and try to stick it out with their rules instead.
 
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Lacrymas

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There are intellectuals, just no arcane magic. Almost nobody is starving due to the strict population control, there is agriculture and husbandry. There is hardly any disease and premature death in the cities/villages due to the healing source. Just deviants in the eyes of society are miserable.
 

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There are intellectuals, just no arcane magic. Almost nobody is starving due to the strict population control, there is agriculture and husbandry. There is hardly any disease and premature death in the cities/villages due to the healing source. Just deviants in the eyes of society are miserable.

Wherein Lacrymas' own setting proves that a theocratic fascist dictatorship is actually great for society overall. :smug:
 

TheBreadcrumb

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I think I've found a video showing what I imagine is the typical church in whatever the fuck this personal therapy session disguised as a homebrew setting is supposed to be.

 

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Another setting that is meant to be read rather than played. If this setting manages to shock people that much, it is no wonder people would rather live
in denial all the time. Real life needs no suspension of belief indeed.
 
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There are intellectuals, just no arcane magic. Almost nobody is starving due to the strict population control, there is agriculture and husbandry. There is hardly any disease and premature death in the cities/villages due to the healing source. Just deviants in the eyes of society are miserable.

Nobody is starving because oppressive totalitarian government is controlling the most intimate part of their lives, but on the flip-side an army of state-controlled eunuchs will keep you alive long enough for you to hate your life. That is of course unless you are a considered a deviant in a society that makes The Third Reich look progressive. Sounds lovely.
 

Lacrymas

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Oh, you are free to have (heterosexual, non-paid-for) sex, just no baby plopping. The "government" isn't that controlling and most people won't be affected by most of the rules outside the baby thing. And the churches allow most baby requests unless you are some kind of baby factory incubating children every two years. Or you are a deviant. Adventurers will feel the rules more because they go in various places and meet a variety of people (and have those people in their parties), that's just the adventuring life.
 

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Oh, you are free to have (heterosexual, non-paid-for) sex, just no baby plopping. The "government" isn't that controlling and most people won't be affected by most of the rules outside the baby thing. And the churches allow most baby requests unless you are some kind of baby factory incubating children every two years. Or you are a deviant. Adventurers will feel the rules more because they go in various places and meet a variety of people (and have those people in their parties), that's just the adventuring life.
No hookers, no babies, no free will, no deviants, no privileges unless you are in the system.

This is basically China in a nutshell. This is hilarious, because even in Saudi Arabia and Iran, you are not restricted in having kids.

This setting is designed for people to hate the church, and the only nice thing you can say about it is that it is fantasy. The fantasy of a rabid atheist of the caricature society under a church he "knows" is truth.
 

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I don't think Lacrymas actually want this society to exist. Just that it is justifiable in an utilitarian sense, at least to the ruling class in setting.
 

Cael

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I don't think Lacrymas actually want this society to exist. Just that it is justifiable in an utilitarian sense, at least to the ruling class in setting.
Of course not. It is his fantasy, a figment of his fervent hate-filled imagination. It is like the sjw cunts making up all sorts of weird and wonderful Evululululz actions and pinning them on the "alt-right".

It does, however, map out his mental condition quite well.
 

Lacrymas

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I actually quite like the churches and their dogmas. They aren't as fleshed out as I'd like them to be yet, but they do have their own "domains" or aspects they focus on, even though those aspects are under the umbrella of the general religion. Of course I don't want this society to exist, I'd be the first on the chopping block (exiled and shunned in this case). But I am tired of the usual fantasy settings where it's basically a bisexual utopia in which not being some sort of trans or furry means you are the weird one. I also wanted ideology to play a key part in the structuring of this society, and not be like Golarion where literally everything goes. I am trying to imbue the religion with some kind of intellectual and spiritual value that supports and encourages roleplaying and interpretation.

It's very interesting, however, that many people can't recognize that we have lived a version of this society in our own culture. This isn't China or Saudi Arabia, this is Europe not too long ago. There are some parts of Europe where prostitution is still illegal for example, sexual acts between same-sex couples were illegal in some European countries half a century ago. The last castrato died in 1922. The only extreme non-Europe-y thing is the baby regulation.
 
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Mortmal

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this is Europe not too long ago.
Never was like that, when you had power and money it was really anything goes . You had no idea about the lifestyle of nobility, what was writing the marquis de sade about , was only a small part of it. Even in the villages adultery was common. Digg deeper than that , in mediaval time it was still the same, some duke was even worshipping pagan idols in public, but not one said anything cause he was warmongering and violent.
 

Lacrymas

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The official rules existing doesn't mean the authorities can magically enforce them in all cases ever. That's why I mentioned in the beginning that you can do whatever you want, as long as you aren't caught. There aren't really nobles in my setting, though, so nobody is "above the law" in that sense. That said, however, this doesn't mean everyone outside of the authorities is going to be ok with your deviancy, quite the contrary. These rules are also culturally reinforced and maintained.
 
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What sort of magic is used to provide contraception?
Either the magic of ancient condoms, or the magic of the so-called non-vaginal sex. I know, right? weird af. God forbid heterosexuals try something non-vanilla for once. ;d
 

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We have no nobles, but you know, the churches all have the power to be judge, jury and executioner. Dang. Not even the muslims went this far.
 

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There aren't really nobles in my setting, though, so nobody is "above the law" in that sense. That said, however, this doesn't mean everyone outside of the authorities is going to be ok with yo

Nobles aren't above the law IRL either. In fact, the population of the empire of brazil had way more freedom of speech, freedom of association and freedom to bear arms than the modern "democratic" country. Except slaves, slaves was the unique "class" unable to bear arms. Was not uncommon for the high nobility to own a small "private army". The same applies to Russia. Russians lost the right to bear arms when the monarchy fell https://www.rbth.com/history/326865-guns-rifles-russia-revolution

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Talking about nobility, I think that an strict hierarchy makes harsh settings more plausible. For eg, on Dark Sun, you have the sorcerer king, a epic level defiler/psion, the high templar who serves him and on botton of the structure, the slaves. Even if a slave manages to somehow escape the city state, all he has left is a hot dry desert with raiders, slave traders, bounty hunters and so on and his family in the city will probably be punished.

We have no nobles, but you know, the churches all have the power to be judge, jury and executioner. Dang. Not even the muslims went this far.

But remember guys. Wizards are fascists!!!!! hu3hu3hu3hu3hu3

Now seriously. The church on his setting seems far more tyrannical than the most tyrannical red wizard of thay. But everything is fine, since they are collectivists tyrannical.
 

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There aren't really nobles in my setting, though, so nobody is "above the law" in that sense. That said, however, this doesn't mean everyone outside of the authorities is going to be ok with yo

Nobles aren't above the law IRL either. In fact, the population of the empire of brazil had way more freedom of speech, freedom of association and freedom to bear arms than the modern "democratic" country. Except slaves, slaves was the unique "class" unable to bear arms. Was not uncommon for the high nobility to own a small "private army". The same applies to Russia. Russians lost the right to bear arms when the monarchy fell https://www.rbth.com/history/326865-guns-rifles-russia-revolution

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Talking about nobility, I think that an strict hierarchy makes harsh settings more plausible. For eg, on Dark Sun, you have the sorcerer king, a epic level defiler/psion, the high templar who serves him and on botton of the structure, the slaves. Even if a slave manages to somehow escape the city state, all he has left is a hot dry desert with raiders, slave traders, bounty hunters and so on and his family in the city will probably be punished.

We have no nobles, but you know, the churches all have the power to be judge, jury and executioner. Dang. Not even the muslims went this far.

But remember guys. Wizards are fascists!!!!! hu3hu3hu3hu3hu3

Now seriously. The church on his setting seems far more tyrannical than the most tyrannical red wizard of thay. But everything is fine, since they are collectivists tyrannical.
The entire point of the Magna Carta was that nobles were not above the law, not even kings. The guy is talking shit.

The Athas take on the whole thing is far more plausible than this trainwreck homebrew could ever be.

Commiecunts will always commiecunt.
 

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Ok, now i want to make computer role playing crpg game too. Where do i start?
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Nah, i want something where i can make combat like disciples 1-2 but with 3x3 grids for positioning instead of 2x3.
 

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The entire point of the Magna Carta was that nobles were not above the law, not even kings. The guy is talking shit.

That depends a lot on the country. In some monarchies, nobles had a lot of privileges and in others, not. Ears on Norse societies aren't above the law for eg.

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All of this talk about "fascists wizards", makes me think. What if Lacrymas ever plays GURPS Technomancer? According to TV tropes

TV tropes said:
  • Alternate History Wank: Special note goes to Argentina becoming a major technomagical superpower, due to the Antarctic manafall and the support of Nazi wizards. Mexico is also a fully first-world country due to being in Trinity's Shadow. And the United States is actually more powerful and dominant than it is in our world, due to being ground zero for the Trinity Event and the establishment of a technomagical society, an advantage that led to victory in Vietnam.
  • Argentina Is Nazi-Land: The Condor Group, comprising former SS magicians, essentially control Argentina behind the scenes after giving Eva Peron immortality.
  • Antimagical Faction:
  • Invisibility: This magic exists, but is highly classified; any kind of invisibility magic is only available to spies and special forces, and no private-sector group has yet managed to crack the secret.
  • Magitek: Check the title. It turns out that atomic bombs are really useful for summoning Eldritch Abominations!It's ubiquitous and has profoundly shaped North American society (and the rest of the world to a significantly lesser extent). Architecture is neo-Gothic because it's cheaper to build skyscrapers out of elemental stone than glass and steel, medicine has been replaced with healing magic to the point that "old skills" like basic surgery are considered an elective, NASA uses teleportation in place of rockets, and the 13th Necromantic Operations Group and the Blue Dragons won Vietnam for the United States. And while using magic while playing football is forbidden, celebrity wizards cast the spells that keep it from raining on the Super Bowl.

source https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/GURPSTechnomancer

Lacrymas would love this setting full of literal nazi wizards
 

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