Let's talk about Lacrymas' homebrew fantasy setting where paladins are eunuchs

[NJClaw]

So your setting has forced resettlements too? There's no incentive for anyone to move and found a new village if your benevolent theocratic dictatorship already has solved the scarcity issue through population control.

Wait a fucking second. Desert setting. Resource scarcity. Theocracy. Forced resettlements. Oh my god.

Lacrymas' setting is Israel.

You don't need to give me more reasons to play in it, I already said that I'm in!!!

 

[NJClaw]

I don't understand what's going on here. It's a D&D setting, why does everyone expect it to make sense according to man's history? Have you guys ever played D&D in a custom setting, or even in a standard one? I know many of you have, so this entire discussion baffles me. Usually, when you create a custom setting you start from a particular idea and try to expand on it, following a chain of causes and consequences as much as you can. But obviously, since we aren't professional writers, something has to slip up. More often than not, for every detail that makes sense, ten others wouldn't be justifiable even in a million years.

Yeah, medieval people wouldn't behave that way. So? Medieval people didn't live in a fantasy setting whose only purpose is to give people a chance to explore interesting ideas.

 

[Lacrymas]

I'd even dare say my setting is more logically consistent than most fantasy settings out there. I also have no idea why real life medieval history is even brought up, not only because it's relatively irrelevant but also because mine isn't a medieval setting, it's more ancient.

 

[Cael]

What has "actual history" have to do with any kind of invented setting? You also seem to think humans irl are extremely logical 100% of the time, which is extremely wrong. This is how these people structure their societies, you have no idea on how many baseless assumptions we have and still do structure our own societies. All the people in this thread who are perplexed by the arbitrariness of some of these rules have never felt the arbitrariness of the rules in our cultures. You can find justification for virtually anything, it just depends on how much you (or who or how many people) are convinced by the justification.

Also, Paladins are not the source of healing. They are just the only class which can heal. People don't move just because there is no food or water where they are, that's the least of our problems. If there is no immediate material benefit for people to move, the authorities might provide incentives for them to move in order to gain geographical influence or for the military to establish outposts. Why do people in the Forgotten Realms move? They have even less material incentive.

That is because you are a fucking defensive moron and missed the point entirely. The point is not that your setting is retarded. The point is that your rationale behind it is basically one long list of author fiat, the very thing you are complaining bitterly against.

Grow up, kid. The rest of us left the "in my setting, elephants are purple and can fly because I want to be a special snowflake" a long time ago.

 

[Lambach]

Yeah, medieval people wouldn't behave that way. So? Medieval people didn't live in a fantasy setting whose only purpose is to give people a chance to explore interesting ideas.

I mean, FR is pretty much "medieval/feudal people with magic and dragons and shit" for the most part, some exceptions nonwhitstanding. If you base your setting on a real-world counterpart, it's natural to expect there would be some baseline assumptions in terms of how that setting would work, how its inhabitants would behave etc.

But if you want to explore other things and reinvent the wheel, more power to ya. The rest of us reserve the right to shitpost about it, tho.

 

[NJClaw]

I mean, FR is pretty much "medieval/feudal people with magic and dragons and shit" for the most part

I think you missed the memo. It's 2021, FR is pretty much "medieval/feudal people with magic and trannies". Never forget that the last module WotC released starts with an NPC that approaches the characters and tells them that his favorite pronouns are they/them:

The rest of us reserve the right to shitpost about it, tho.

It's not a right, it's a duty.

 

[Lacrymas]

FR is 2021 Europe/USA but with a pseudo-medieval aesthetic. One of the two official introductory campaigns (Dragon of Icespire Peak) has a gnome settlement with two married (to each other) kings.

 

[Lambach]

It's nevertheless based on a real-world counterpart, so its inhabitants behave accordingly, whether that means swearing fealty to your Lord or talking about which one of the 6 gorillion genders you choose to identify as this hour.

If any of us in this thread were creative and imaginative enough to construct a setting not heavily based on a real-world counterpart that is logically consistent, we'd have a world-renowned author posting on the 'Dex (Avellone doesn't count). But as it stands, IMHO it's better and smarter to assume the people in your setting would behave largely the way they do IRL than pile on logical inconsistencies.

 

[Storyfag]

All the people in this thread who are perplexed by the arbitrariness of some of these rules have never felt the arbitrariness of the rules in our cultures.

That is a very arbitrary assumption to make, thank you very much.

 

[Reinhardt]

rifle can kill you a mile away

I remember in Dresden Files main problem with killing mage is that you have to deal with his death curse then and this shit is scary. Iirc it's prepared in advance and you just need to activate it to fuck your murderer for good.
But when mage treatens mercenary with curse merc is just "then i just have to kill you before you can activate it, right? sniper rifle can do it" And mage is like

 

[Reinhardt]

men might be allowed to be Barbarians

nigga u wot
First schools, now this.
So basically it's setting where toxic femininity won. Castration for males, wommynz in education.

 

[Storyfag]

men might be allowed to be Barbarians

nigga u wot
First schools, now this.

Haven't you noticed? Nothing happens spontaneously in Lacrymas' totalitarian nightmare of a setting. Everything is carefuly regulated and reglamented, to the point that even Hóngwèibīng finds issue with it.

 

[Mortmal]

far more likely nowdays than banning crossbows on medieval periods.

Didnt a buch of nobles try that by getting the pope to declare the cross bow un-christian? Or some such.

1139 , latran concile, the pople explicitly forbid the crossbow , the weapon of the devil .Using it could grant you excomunication , however that did not prevent anyone to still use it .
Of course it was using the crossbow between christians, as for shooting the infidels, deus vult .

 

[Lacrymas]

But this is like taking issue with "men aren't allowed in an all-girls school or a nun convent".

 

[Mortmal]

You realize what happen with castration right ? You goes fat and you keep your child voice.Imagine the charge of paladin fatties with screeching voices...Medieval warfare would never be the same.Men in a nun covent are probably less ridiculous.

 

[Lacrymas]

That's if you get castrated before you undergo puberty. No Paladin is castrated as a child. You might become fatter, but it's a rare side effect.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

The Chantry in Dragon Age gets the Templars addicted to lyrium to ensure their loyalty, the churches in Lacrymas' setting get their paladins addicted to hormone treatments for that missing testosterone instead.

 

[Reinhardt]

Nigga, just fuck dem bitches. When they castrate you just cast heal.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

When they castrate you just cast heal.

That gets the paladin sent to mandatory sensitivity training sessions for his toxic masculinity though.

 

[Reinhardt]

Btw castrated paladin should be able to dual class into barbarian. You know - this shit can make you VERY angry. Permanently.

 

[Lacrymas]

Btw castrated paladin should be able to dual class into barbarian. You know - this shit can make you VERY angry. Permanently.

That's actually not a bad idea.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

But this is like taking issue with "men aren't allowed in an all-girls school or a nun convent".

Yes, because a savage outlook to life and a mindset unsuited to long term civilized living and Law is the same as taking the habit.

 

[Lacrymas]

No, men not being allowed to join a sisterhood is the same as men not being allowed to join an all-girls school or a nun convent.

 

[Lovecraft's Ghost]

What has "actual history" have to do with any kind of invented setting?

It has a great deal to do with any setting that wants to be grounded at all.

This is how these people structure their societies, you have no idea on how many baseless assumptions we have and still do structure our own societies. All the people in this thread who are perplexed by the arbitrariness of some of these rules have never felt the arbitrariness of the rules in our cultures.

This is both ignorance and misconception, nothing is arbitrary. You may not know or understand the reasons behind something, or you might even not understand what it is to begin with, but that does not mean that there isn't something behind it and that it doesn't serve some purpose.

I also have no idea why real life medieval history is even brought up, not only because it's relatively irrelevant but also because mine isn't a medieval setting, it's more ancient.

That makes your modern satire all the worse. It would do you a great deal of good to actually study ancient societies and base your setting upon one. You compare your setting to ancient Egypt yet you seem very poorly versed in its history and cultural traditions. Moreover you don't seem to understand that the church is the Christian one, it is not something universal, in any sense.

If any of us in this thread were creative and imaginative enough to construct a setting not heavily based on a real-world counterpart that is logically consistent, we'd have a world-renowned author posting on the 'Dex

Not necessarily, worldbuilding on its own without a good writer making it appealing is worthless and the publishing industry is so identitarian these days I doubt most people on the Codex could get published if they were the next Pushkin.

 

[Storyfag]

No, men not being allowed to join a sisterhood is the same as men not being allowed to join an all-girls school or a nun convent.

Having barbarians as a sisterhood the same as being retarded