Let's talk about Lacrymas' homebrew fantasy setting where paladins are eunuchs

[Gangrelrumbler]

I'm not interested in consequences of arcane magic use, especially when it's an attempt to "balance" arcane spellcasters. I'm interested in consequences for doing human things and how people react to those.

If arcane magic is not part of "human things" then no form of magic is that, including castrated Paladins healing people.

 

[Savecummer]

I dont actually have a problem with banning wizards but castrating pallys for sex is actually moronic and doesnt work in any setting.
Who is castrating them? Other pallys? Why would they do this to their own tribe?
What happens if a pally says "fuck you, ill make my own order with blackjack and hookers - we still casting"?

Its just doesnt make sense from a human self preservation and power sharing perspective.
In all of human history, all monarch were very careful around the "warrior caste". No tribe hurts its members for trivialities.
Punishment like castration is insanely high and is applied and tolerated to their own only when the evildoers does something to monumentally hurt the caste itself.
A cult like in Lacrymas setting does not survive 5 years.

 

[Lacrymas]

What vagueness? Nobody uses the rule about custom spells, and houseruling it out of the question is a matter of snapping your fingers anyway.

Nobody using the rule doesn't mean it doesn't exist in-universe, making the boundaries of arcane magic blurry at best, non-existent at worst.

 

[Lambach]

Wouldn't castrated Paladins use their healing abilities to grow their dicks back?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Wouldn't castrated Paladins use their healing abilities to grow their dicks back?

That would turn you into a fallen paladin in Lacry's setting.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

What vagueness? Nobody uses the rule about custom spells, and houseruling it out of the question is a matter of snapping your fingers anyway.

Nobody using the rule doesn't mean it doesn't exist in-universe, making the boundaries of arcane magic blurry at best, non-existent at worst.

It's your universe, you can make-up any rule you want to. There are settings where there are hard rules to using arcane magic.

 

[Lacrymas]

I dont actually have a problem with banning wizards but castrating pallys for sex is actually moronic and doesnt work in any setting.
Who is castrating them? Other pallys? Why would they do this to their own tribe?
What happens if a pally says "fuck you, ill make my own order with blackjack and hookers - we still casting"?

Its just doesnt make sense from a human self preservation and power sharing perspective.
In all of human history, all monarch were very careful around the "warrior caste". No tribe hurts its members for trivialities.
Punishment like castration is insanely high and is applied and tolerated to their own only when the evildoers does something to monumentally hurt the caste itself.
A cult like in Lacrymas setting does not survive 5 years.

1. The churches are castrating them.
2. This is the vow of chastity they swear and that is required of them to be Paladins in the first place.
3. You can do that, nobody is stopping you, you'll just be a social pariah.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

A lawful-good Paladin obviously can't have a dick or use it since doing so would cause a spread of toxic masculinity which is obviously something only an evil character would do.

 

[Storyfag]

What vagueness? Nobody uses the rule about custom spells, and houseruling it out of the question is a matter of snapping your fingers anyway.

Nobody using the rule doesn't mean it doesn't exist in-universe, making the boundaries of arcane magic blurry at best, non-existent at worst.

Wait, so arcane magic DOES exist in your universe? Who are the individuals using it?

 

[Lacrymas]

Wait, so arcane magic DOES exist in your universe? Who are the individuals using it?

I mean in D&D.

 

[smaug]

I don't know what this thread is about, but since it's Lacrymas I assume it's something gay.

 

[Storyfag]

Wait, so arcane magic DOES exist in your universe? Who are the individuals using it?

I mean in D&D.

Ah, communication problems. I did mention my suspicions that you are incapable of communicating your views and creations properly to us, haven't I?

In any case, houseruling it out of the question is a matter of snapping your fingers anyway.

 

[Mortmal]

I am not even surprised to read about it. it's a very common case in table top rpgs : The miser Dm.

Instead on working on the story , characters, dungeon design, he takes pleasure into restricting the players. Few or no equipment , hardly any reward , taking a job is more profitable than adventuring in their settings. Some find funny to homebrew (cause they are soooo much more clever than designers) add injury tables , fumbles and such in system not designed for it.

Most often the miser Dm has a grudge against magic, nerfing it as much as possible, limiting the number of cantrips etc. In conclusion a DM with only one thing in mind assess his authority, see people die, and be god king in his hell setting, of course not the players having a good time.Some will however there's a niche for that , as for BDSM.
So cutting off the paladin balls ? He's just a bit more unhibited than usual as it's what those people really want , it's often about raping women and kids, have a look at r/rpghorrorstories . Where else than the codex to find such unhibited people ....

 

[Lacrymas]

Ah, communication problems. I did mention my suspicions that you are incapable of communicating your views and creations properly to us, haven't I?

In any case, houseruling it out of the question is a matter of snapping your fingers anyway.

Ugh, we are going in circles. I think arcane magic in D&D (and in general actually) in-universe is vague because every wizard can come up with their own spells, which can be used to insulate the plot whenever convenient. I can't houserule it out of the pre-written adventure books and what they do for example. Neither can I do that in official novels or the Forgotten Realms setting in general.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Ah, communication problems. I did mention my suspicions that you are incapable of communicating your views and creations properly to us, haven't I?

In any case, houseruling it out of the question is a matter of snapping your fingers anyway.

Ugh, we are going in circles. I think arcane magic in D&D (and in general actually) in-universe is vague because every wizard can come up with their own spells, which can be used to insulate the plot whenever convenient. I can't houserule it out of the pre-written adventure books and what they do for example. Neither can I do that in official novels or the Forgotten Realms setting in general.

But you aren't using per-written adventure books or Forgotten Realms anyway so why is that an issue?

 

[Lacrymas]

Instead on working on the story , characters, dungeon design, he takes pleasure into restricting the players.

In my setting, the players are "restricted" insofar as they have to follow the society's rules, like we all have to do every day of our lives. When you break those rules, no matter how trivial and arbitrary (or correct), there are consequences. I have taken special care for almost all rules to make sense in-universe, but I have left some arbitrary ones, like same-sex relationships/intercourse being extremely taboo.

 

[Lacrymas]

But you aren't using per-written adventure books or Forgotten Realms anyway so why is that an issue?

The FR setting is already damaged goods due to the unrestricted and liberal use of arcane magic.

 

[Reinhardt]

Why anyone even try to become paladin then? It's basically healing slave bot without any benefits. Just make them slaves already and castrate them from the start, like moslems did with negroes.

 

[Lacrymas]

So, if only eunuchs can be Paladins that means only men can be Paladins. That sounds pretty misogynistic and fascist to me. I mean you are saying half the population can't use healing magic just because of the genes they were born with!

How does that not end up in a society where men hold all the power and women are second class citizens?

I sincerely hope you have gotten rid of racial modifiers as well. I would like to think it isn't necessary to get into the fascist implications of that.

I have not decided if only men can be Paladins, but they don't need to be eunuchs. They become eunuchs if they break their vow of chastity, but many of them decide to castrate themselves before that because it shows praise-worthy devotion. Only men can be Druids, only women Clerics and Barbarians. Women *are* second-class citizens. Kinda. They can get away from that if they turn to adventuring (or become Barbarians as in the class or Clerics).

 

[Heroic Liberator]

only women Barbarians.

What say you, ERYFKRAD?

 

[Reinhardt]

only women Barbarians. second-class citizens.

Nigger, you have no honor. disgusting.

 

[Storyfag]

Ah, communication problems. I did mention my suspicions that you are incapable of communicating your views and creations properly to us, haven't I?

In any case, houseruling it out of the question is a matter of snapping your fingers anyway.

Ugh, we are going in circles. I think arcane magic in D&D (and in general actually) in-universe is vague because every wizard can come up with their own spells, which can be used to insulate the plot whenever convenient. I can't houserule it out of the pre-written adventure books and what they do for example. Neither can I do that in official novels or the Forgotten Realms setting in general.

But what does the depiction of arcane magic in D&D adventure books and official novels have to do with your faulty reasons for bannng mages in your setting?

 

[Storyfag]

only women Barbarians.

You watched too much of DDR woman athletic competitions, didn't you?

 

[Lacrymas]

How do new Barbarians get born then? It isn't like Barbarian is a profession; it is a way of life.

That is why I said it's Barbarian as in the class/mechanics, not as a way of life. Well, it kind of becomes a way of life when a woman decides to join their school. The woman has to have lost a child (as in it died), however, in order to be allowed in the sisterhood.

 

[Lacrymas]

But what does the depiction of arcane magic in D&D adventure books and official novels have to do with your faulty reasons for bannng mages in your setting?

It has to do with the origin of my dislike of arcane magic.