List of the best games of all time

[octavius]

By the way, octavius, System Shock is in the RPG lists, so you cannot vote for it. See Rule 2 in the OP there.

Huh, I though the consensus was that SS1 is not a CRPG, while SS2 is?

 

[felipepepe]

People nominated A LOT of weird games, let's keep the ones on the final list and use some common sense. System Shock 2 is an RPG, System Shock 1 isn't - there's a MASSIVE difference between both, 2 has classes, stats, xp and other things 1 doesn't.

 

[Plane Escapee]

felipepepe will you accept votes for Crusader Kings and other borderline cases for the Top non-RPG list that were accepted in the Top RPGs of All Time vote (but ultimately didn't make that list) for the non-RPG list?

 

[felipepepe]

felipepepe will you accept votes for Crusader Kings and other borderline cases for the Top non-RPG list that were accepted in the Top RPGs of All Time vote (but ultimately didn't make that list) for the non-RPG list?

Yes. I think a lot of people in the Codex love it, but it wasn't nowhere near the Top 101, so that pretty much proves that people don't consider it an RPG.

 

[Gregz]

3 Points:
FTL: Faster Than Light (2012)

Didn't we have FTL in the RPG voting lists?

Despite what the Hivemind wants you to believe, some games' RPG tags are open to interpretation. Another example would be Jagged Alliance 2 with it's heavy focus on squad-based-tactics gameplay elements. Murky waters wait to be navigated as delicious drama surely shall unfold during the course of the voting process.

Who cares if the Codex fights, I'm betting there are 2-3 great games that I haven't played. This poll will smoke them out.

 

[DalekFlay]

The problem with that is that I don't think lot of people are into strategy games, or most of other genre. The only one as popular as RPG I can think of is FPS. Or maybe horror games.

Strategy games are a historically PC genre though, and this is a list of PC games on a (mostly) PC focused forum. So you'd think they'd have a better shot over stuff like Hollow Night or Devil May Cry than an IGN list would. Who knows though, I very rarely play a strategy game that isn't at least half RPG.

 

[felipepepe]

The no console exclusive rule is dumb. Makes sense in the top RPGs vote 'cause this is primarily a CRPG site. But since this is in the General Gaming section I think console games should be allowed.

It would cause issues with console RPGs. Better to make a separate vote for that.

 

[curds]

The no console exclusive rule is dumb. Makes sense in the top RPGs vote 'cause this is primarily a CRPG site. But since this is in the General Gaming section I think console games should be allowed.

It would cause issues with console RPGs. Better to make a separate vote for that.

Fair enough.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

The no console exclusive rule is dumb. Makes sense in the top RPGs vote 'cause this is primarily a CRPG site. But since this is in the General Gaming section I think console games should be allowed.

It would cause issues with console RPGs. Better to make a separate vote for that.

How would that be a problem?
Just say no RPG's of any kind

 

[Jason Liang]

Someone explain to me the "spirit" of no console.

For example, I'm pretty sure a large number of Codexers played Breath of the Wild on emulator, not switch.

Also what about arcade, mobile and browser games.

Or perhaps what we are going for is Codex best non-RPG Steam games of all time.

 

[fantadomat]

By the way, octavius, System Shock is in the RPG lists, so you cannot vote for it. See Rule 2 in the OP there.

King's Bounty is also an RPG but a lot of people decided to vote for it,including me. I am surprised that none is voting for deusex,do hope it is because everyone is seeing it as an RPG.

 

[Gregz]

By the way, octavius, System Shock is in the RPG lists, so you cannot vote for it. See Rule 2 in the OP there.

King's Bounty is also an RPG but a lot of people decided to vote for it,including me. I am surprised that none is voting for deusex,do hope it is because everyone is seeing it as an RPG.

Is Deus Ex an RPG?

Consult RPG elements list: Deus Ex contains RPG elements #3, #5, #6, #8, #9, #10, #11, and #12.
Add the number of RPG elements: 8 total
Consult the threshold table: 8, therefore Deus Ex is generally agreed upon as an RPG

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...eneral-codex-theory-of-what-is-an-rpg.106544/

 

[Grauken]

By the way, octavius, System Shock is in the RPG lists, so you cannot vote for it. See Rule 2 in the OP there.

King's Bounty is also an RPG but a lot of people decided to vote for it,including me. I am surprised that none is voting for deusex,do hope it is because everyone is seeing it as an RPG.

Is Deus Ex an RPG?

Consult RPG elements list: Deus Ex contains RPG elements #3, #5, #6, #8, #9, #10, #11, and #12.
Add the number of RPG elements: 8 total
Consult the threshold table: 8, therefore Deus Ex is generally agreed upon as an RPG

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...eneral-codex-theory-of-what-is-an-rpg.106544/

As Felipe mentioned above, everything that's not in the Top 101 RPG and is not reasonably an RPG is open for voting. System Shock 1 is (not in Top 101 and not an RPG (according to some, I would disagree for example hence I haven't voted for it), System Shock 2 and Deus Ex are in the Top 101 and thus out, but if they weren't you could argue about their merits as RPGs or not, but no need right now).

 

[curds]

I am surprised that none is voting for deusex,do hope it is because everyone is seeing it as an RPG.

I didn't vote for it because of the nothing in the top 101 rule. Personally I don't see it as an RPG (I'd say 1st person action-adventure/FPS), and would have placed it as no. 1 otherwise.

 

[Grauken]

I do have a question, some people voted Slay the Spire and Stardew Valley, which I think fall both under the RPG rule?

 

[Grauken]

felipepepe You probably should clear up whether it's no RPGs at all or just no RPGs from the Top 101 list, otherwise people will put in those like FF8 and the Rance games in Jason's list, which is absurd on a non-RPG vote

 

[Lady_Error]

Uncharted Waters: New Horizons

Totally forgot about the two KOEI classics. Thanks!

 

[Jason Liang]

FF8 is a card game/ Visual Novel
Rance X is squad management/ card collection
Kichikou Rance is grand strategy

Rance X

Kichikou Rance

Final Fantasy 8

 

[catfood]

Done: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/rpg-codexs-top-non-rpg-pc-games-vote-thread.132183/

Meh, there are simply too many good games to choose from. I think a separate top list of strategy games and another of adventures would have been better.

The problem with that is that I don't think lot of people are into strategy games, or most of other genre. The only one as popular as RPG I can think of is FPS. Or maybe horror games.

This forum went out of its way to make subforums for strategy and adventure games. Yes, a separate list would be justified.

 

[felipepepe]

felipepepe You probably should clear up whether it's no RPGs at all or just no RPGs from the Top 101 list, otherwise people will put in those like FF8 and the Rance games in Jason's list, which is absurd on a non-RPG vote

The list is literally called "NON-RPG PC games", how is this even a question?

Also, it's better to make a general vote and then split the results into categories than doing the opposite.

 

[Grauken]

felipepepe You probably should clear up whether it's no RPGs at all or just no RPGs from the Top 101 list, otherwise people will put in those like FF8 and the Rance games in Jason's list, which is absurd on a non-RPG vote

The list is literally called "NON-RPG PC games", how is this even a question?

Also, it's better to make a general vote and then split the results into categories than doing the opposite.

I thought so too, but its not uncommon to have people with reading comprehension on this site

 

[Grauken]

FF8 is a card game/ Visual Novel

I don't know enough about the Rance games, so maybe you're right, but FF8 is a full-blown jRPG, so stop the bullshit, otherwise you just lose the points that you could have put into a real non-RPG

 

[Jason Liang]

FF8 is a card game/ Visual Novel

I don't know enough about the Rance games, so maybe you're right, but FF8 is a full-blown jRPG, so stop the bullshit, otherwise you just lose the points that you could have put into a real non-RPG

FF7 is a jrpg. FF8 is... something else.

 

[Grauken]

FF8 is a card game/ Visual Novel

I don't know enough about the Rance games, so maybe you're right, but FF8 is a full-blown jRPG, so stop the bullshit, otherwise you just lose the points that you could have put into a real non-RPG

FF7 is a jrpg. FF8 is... something else.

That's why it's the best FF besides FF5

 

[Jason Liang]

Uncharted Waters: New Horizons

Totally forgot about the two KOEI classics. Thanks!

New Horizons is the 1994 version that has 6 different starting characters, whereas according to wikipedia the 1991 game only has Leon of Portugal.