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[treave]

treave, are all the B votes counted together with just the winning combination of companion prevailing should B win? Or is each B combo a seperate, distinct choice?

The latter. Here's where you abuse contingency choices if you want to.

If you had talked to Nie Wuxing before this he would have been an option.

 

[Tigranes]

“I must say that I am not yet convinced,” she smiles. “Perhaps you will have a chance to prove to me that you have the ability to make my daughter happy… in all matters personal. Perhaps… tonight."

Another reason to take the twins for a menage a quatre...

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Doesn't this remind you of our meeting with Bai? Let's try not to end up dead this time.

BV - the twins are loyal to their father, not to her. It's pretty clear they are too orthodox-indoctrinated - not to mention dense - to be manipulated by her. It also seems like a good opportunity to drive a wedge between her and Nie. And if it is a frame up, the twins are too honest to lie when asked where we were.

Side question: do you think Bai would kill us if Madam Nie ordered her to?

 

[Fangshi]

Side question: do you think Bai would kill us if Madam Nie ordered her to?

That is probably dependent on another, more general, question. "Would BJ kill us if it benefited her?"

I think she is getting a bit too independent to just do it because she is told to. But if she thought it would serve her goals/interests to do so then definitely.




Anyway I will flop to the twins I suppose since it looks like the meeting is going to happen. I am not sure how useful they will be though, they strike me as unsuitable to this sort of shady dealing. At the least nothing too untoward should occur with those two along, they will keep things 'upstanding'. Hopefully this is not all some sort of ploy to lure us away from the rest of the group to hit them or us.

Bv>A

 

[Baltika9]

Adding A as my last conditional.

 

[Absinthe]

IT'S A TRAP.

Voting A. Especially since we don't have that poison absorption neigong.

 

[Elfberserker]

IT'S A TRAP.

Voting A. Especially since we don't have that poison absorption neigong.

To be codexian or not to be codexian.

 

[ChumBucket]

B1>A

 

[Kipeci]

I don't understand why there are folks setting up combos to go to A if their specific one doesn't get picked? If you decide that the information we can get from her is good going in with, say, the twins, what makes it suddenly not worth it if we instead were to bring in anyone else?

B voters, we need to get more organized. Since our votes are counted separately they're never going to win over A unless we have sufficiently overlapping votes.

 

[Nevill]

I don't understand why there are folks setting up combos to go to A if their specific one doesn't get picked?

Because it is another of the waifu choices. If we can't be with our waifus, we'd better not make them jealous.

Tally

Akkudakku B1>B4>B7
Baltika9 B1>B4>B3>A
Nevill B5>A
Kipeci B
ERYFKRAD A
Kashmir Slippers B1
Elfberserker B5
Fangshi B5>A
Grimgravy B7
Tigrane B5
Kz3r0 A>B2>B1>B3>B6>B5>B4
TOME B5>B6>A
Lambchop19 B5
Absinthe A
ChumBucket B1>A
Jester B7
GreyViper B5
The Brazilian Slaughter B2
Esquilax B4

A - 3 (5)
Bx - 1 (0)
B1 - 4 (2)
B2 - 1
B4 - 1
B5 - 7 (8)
B7 - 2

 

[Kipeci]

That's a lot more B5s than I thought we had, alright. Thanks for putting that together!

 

[Jester]

B7
mby we will find out the hell happened to her.

 

[Rex Feral]

Why can't we pick the Sword Saint or someone capable?

 

[Nevill]

Possibly because they are guarding the bandits?

I am more interested in why we can't pick Yunzi. Would be hilarious.

 

[Kashmir Slippers]

All of our choices have some relation to Madam Nie. treave said that Nie Wuxing was a possible option.

 

[Nevill]

Can you explain Cao'er, then?

 

[Kashmir Slippers]

Forgot about her. The Cao'er option is probably just the Cao'er option. She probably wouldn't talk much anyway, so her being there might just be about her watching after us or posing as our doctor.

Yunzi would stick out because she s the Holy Maiden, and she isn't known for her diplomacy. Bringing her would probably do much more harm than good.

 

[Nevill]

Yunzi would stick out because she s the Holy Maiden, and she isn't known for her diplomacy. Bringing her would probably do much more harm than good.

That is actually the point. It would be nice to have a 'just Yunzi' option as a way of saying 'screw you'. I'd vote for it.

Really, now, Nie diplomacy? This sounds awfully familiar.

"Have you not thought this before: that you might be making a mistake by acting without understanding the full picture? You do not really know our motives, our plans, and what we might hope to achieve. Have you never once thought that you might be making things worse by acting blindly?”

We know the answer to these questions already.

 

[Kashmir Slippers]

You need to think about this from Xing's perspective and not from our lulz-waifu tainted window. He was invited to a meeting with a pseudo-enemy. His thought of companions are all people who have connections with Madam Nie and all have some part to play with the conversation. Qilin is her daughter and could be used to try to get additional info out of Madam Nie or at least steer the conversation into a certain direction. The Twins are her adoptive daughters and might throw her off with their presence. Bai and Madam Nie have a history, and our cooperation could be used to get into her graces or make her more forthcoming. Nie Wuxing, although he isn't an option to us now, is her husband, and might help to see if the two of them are really as closely allied as they might seem. Xuezi has been plotting with her, so she could be used either as an "in" to maker her more accepting of us, or used to help our plan to steal the manuals. /personalspeculation

Cao'er, as I said, is probably just Cao'er. She is and probably always will be an option for the "pick a companion to cover you" choices based on her stalker-ish nature, her separation issues and the cave thing. As far as what she can offer in helping us, she is a very observant person who might pick up on traps or cues that we might miss. Additionally, she is diminutive and probably would not take much of a part of the conversation. In short, she is helpful and controllable.

Yunzi, on the other hand, would be almost nothing but a disaster. She has no relation to Madam Nie, so she isn't as practical a choice as the others. Also, since we are given the option of meeting Madam Nie as part of the vote, a "B" win would suggest that Xing is genuinely interested in what she has to say, and wants to see the meeting out diplomatically. Yunzi is almost the opposite of Cao'er in that she is uncontrollable and an oddity. We have virtually no control over what she does, as she has shown us time and time again, so she might ruin the conversation by being a brash hothead or at least try to dominate it for her own interests and ruin our chances of learning what we want to know. Also, bringing the Holy Maiden to talk to someone as observant and intelligent as Madam Nie would probably be a terrible idea because we could let slip that we are the Lord, if she doesn't already know that. She doesn't really offer anything that would be advantageous to the meeting, so bringing her doesn't make much sense in that regard.

 

[Nevill]

You probably missed the part where I said I wanted our meeting to become a disaster.

All right, I think I'll switch to B5>A for that one. After Yunzi and Xuezi, the Twins are the next best thing for something interesting to happen.

 

[GreyViper]

B5

 

[Nevill]

I've decided to go with B1

Cao'er is the one that trust us the most, has the least outsider loyalties (only to Yao, Miecao, Yifang and the Emei), is silent, is very observant and smart. What Madam Nie can tell Jing, she can tell Cao'er too. If there's someone who can perceive any trap, any intruders or save us from any poison or ambush, its her.

Yes, Cao'er is a wonderful girl. Is that why you are ignoring her in favor of Qilin?

Truly, the poor physician is cursed to be abandoned and neglected even as we praise her.

 

[Esquilax]

Let me clarify. I don't think Qilin's emotional state will be manipulated, but bringing her along would just have Nie spin webs of words around the relationship - she already wasted half the time in the previous conversation going on and on about 'her daughter' - and frankly that's not the bit we're interested in talking about, and that's not the bit where there is anything specific for us to gain by doing verbal sparring with her. I mean, what do we want out of bringing Qilin along and making it a family talk? For Qilin to denounce Nie? Ironically, she has already done that. We want to focus on and get the most out of Nie regarding her position in Huashan, Huashan's aims, etc.

I think that this position makes a lot of sense. We all know that at this point that Qilin is solid and that Madame Nie is extremely unlikely to turn her against us. On top of that, given the training we've been doing together, I would say that at this point our relationship has gotten even stronger.

B5 for now. With characters like Bai or Qilin we give her the advantage in that she can use her superior position with them / her knowledge; this is not quite the case with the Twins because she is the one that wanted to have a frank chat, and she's hardly going to cancel it all and not say a word if we bring the Twins. It's also unexpected, and at least one of the Twins is now doubtful that we are a Monster, and they will become even more curious when we bring them to a meeting that Nie has arranged. It's a chance to troll som einteresting faultlines within the Huashan.

I am not so sure that she'll be up for a frank chat if we bring along the extremely sheltered, naive Twins along. They clearly aren't privy to the sort of scheming that Madame Nie has in mind, and I'm not sure that bringing them along will reveal the information that we seek. Ideally, we'd have someone that Madame Nie thinks is her ally, but is in reality loyal to us tagging along with us. The tricky part is that Qilin has sided with us, while at the same time, we can't be sure about whether or not we can trust Bai Jiutian, though she is of course the most obvious pick. It's a tricky choice.

Voting B4, for now. Hopefully BJ doesn't stab Jing in the throat.

 

[Nevill]

Ideally, we'd have someone that Madame Nie thinks is her ally, but is in reality loyal to us tagging along with us. The tricky part is that Qilin has sided with us, while at the same time, we can't be sure about whether or not we can trust Bai Jiutian, though she is of course the most obvious pick. It's a tricky choice.

Wouldn't Madam Nie question herself why did we bring Bai Jiutian along, of all people? It does not quite make sense for BJ to pop up on her shimu unannounced, hand-in-hand with Man Tiger Pig.

And if Madam Nie will not become worried and suspicious of Tian'er, it would mean that she wanted BJ to be there, at which point we are the ones that should be getting worried.

 

[Kashmir Slippers]

Yeah. I am worried about taking BJ to Madam Nie. She is a very smart woman, and if she doesn't already know that we are working together now, she almost surely will if we bring BJ along. We have a very antagonistic relationship with BJ in public. It would be odd for us to invite her of all people.