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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    It's a good point that we should find out more about their motivations, etc. Under current circumstances, escort of the Sword and all, I don't think this is some NOW YOU DIE XU JING ambush (famous last words).

    I think no to Qilin and Bai, because they are the most easy for Nie to manipulate one way or another.
    Liu Qi / Su Liaojing may also end up Nie talking in circles and not really revealing anything interesting.
    Cao'er wouldn't do much but is potentially an unobtrusive backup that certainly Nie can't really use for her gains.
    Xuezi could provoke additional info, but I fear Nie can play her easily.

    B5 for now. With characters like Bai or Qilin we give her the advantage in that she can use her superior position with them / her knowledge; this is not quite the case with the Twins because she is the one that wanted to have a frank chat, and she's hardly going to cancel it all and not say a word if we bring the Twins. It's also unexpected, and at least one of the Twins is now doubtful that we are a Monster, and they will become even more curious when we bring them to a meeting that Nie has arranged. It's a chance to troll som einteresting faultlines within the Huashan.
     
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  2. Nevill Arcane

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    I completely disagree with the notion that Qilin could be manipulated in any way. No. Not after that:
    If that's not final, I don't know what is.

    I am not really sure if there is something to manipulate in Miss Bai's case - I still have no idea which side, if any, the girl is on.

    I kind of suspect that inviting Xuezi would be the quickest way to learn about what that favor of hers entails... in a bad way.

    If I had to choose, it would have to be either Qilin for a private family talk with a backup, or the orthodox disciples (as a neutral party, though I suppose Madam Nie would not be all that talkative around them), or the Twin Flowers to have a back-and-forth talk with their mother that would fly completely over their heads, since they would never suspect her of anything shady.

    Or Cao'er, if we think Madam Nie is about to make us an offer we would not be able to refuse.
     
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  3. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Let me clarify. I don't think Qilin's emotional state will be manipulated, but bringing her along would just have Nie spin webs of words around the relationship - she already wasted half the time in the previous conversation going on and on about 'her daughter' - and frankly that's not the bit we're interested in talking about, and that's not the bit where there is anything specific for us to gain by doing verbal sparring with her. I mean, what do we want out of bringing Qilin along and making it a family talk? For Qilin to denounce Nie? Ironically, she has already done that. We want to focus on and get the most out of Nie regarding her position in Huashan, Huashan's aims, etc.

    Twins is best. Orthodox disciples would only work if we had some substantial evidence to push Nie on.
     
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  4. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    Flopping to twin option BV

    we still have no idea what kind of relationship the twins and Madam Nie have.
    So far it seems that Bai Jiutian is both liked by Nie Wuxing and Madam Nie, but it seems that Madam Nie seems to taken Bai Jiutian under her wing.
    Twins on the otherhand seems to be Nie wuxing favorite while Madam Nie and Twins might have more of formal relationship rather than close family or student mentor relationship.

    This might be crackpot theory, but twins might be most distant/oppose members of Nie family towards Madam Nie compared to Bai Jiutian and Nie Wuxing.
     
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  5. Nevill Arcane

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    Qilin is someone who has enough experience in intrigue and knowledge of her mother to be of help to us, and also has the advantage of being in-the-know about most of the current plots, so her mother does not need to shy from sensitive topics. Do you expect Madam Nie to fill you in on their deals with the zhang clan and the affair with the manuals when the Twins are around? Not directly, at least, that much is obvious. If you want to get the most out of it, you need to bring in someone less upright.

    Qilin also made it clear that the topic of our relationship is closed. I do not think Madam Nie is stupid enough to bring it up again after that.

    Not to mention Qilin's fighting prowess (now that are training her and experiencing a bit of a downtime ourselves) and superior knowledge of poisons could help us out if we believe this meeting might go south - and I do.

    Simply put, there is no other person on the list I would trust as much as her. I feel safer about the whole deal that way.
     
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  6. Kipeci Arcane

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    Tigranes has me convinced, B5 > B3 now.
     
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  7. Kipeci Arcane

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    treave, are all the B votes counted together with just the winning combination of companion prevailing should B win? Or is each B combo a seperate, distinct choice?
     
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  8. ScubaV Prophet

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  9. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    BV>BVI>A

    Could be that this is a ploy to get Jing out of sight while they do something at the boats and frame Jing. Bringing orthodontist is the best defense against that, and in the meanwhile we keep our group together and strong.
     
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  10. Kipeci Arcane

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    Just put me down for B. Whatever's the most popular B option, I just want to go to that meeting.
     
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  11. treave Arcane Patron

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    The latter. Here's where you abuse contingency choices if you want to.

    If you had talked to Nie Wuxing before this he would have been an option.
     
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  12. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Another reason to take the twins for a menage a quatre...
     
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  13. Doesn't this remind you of our meeting with Bai? Let's try not to end up dead this time.

    BV - the twins are loyal to their father, not to her. It's pretty clear they are too orthodox-indoctrinated - not to mention dense - to be manipulated by her. It also seems like a good opportunity to drive a wedge between her and Nie. And if it is a frame up, the twins are too honest to lie when asked where we were.

    Side question: do you think Bai would kill us if Madam Nie ordered her to?
     
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  14. Fangshi Arcane

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    That is probably dependent on another, more general, question. "Would BJ kill us if it benefited her?"

    I think she is getting a bit too independent to just do it because she is told to. But if she thought it would serve her goals/interests to do so then definitely.




    Anyway I will flop to the twins I suppose since it looks like the meeting is going to happen. I am not sure how useful they will be though, they strike me as unsuitable to this sort of shady dealing. At the least nothing too untoward should occur with those two along, they will keep things 'upstanding'. Hopefully this is not all some sort of ploy to lure us away from the rest of the group to hit them or us.

    Bv>A
     
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  15. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Adding A as my last conditional.
     
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  16. Absinthe Arcane

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    IT'S A TRAP.

    Voting A. Especially since we don't have that poison absorption neigong.
     
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  17. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    :codexisforindividualswithgenderidentityissues:

    To be codexian or not to be codexian.
     
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  18. ChumBucket Augur

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  19. Kipeci Arcane

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    I don't understand why there are folks setting up combos to go to A if their specific one doesn't get picked? If you decide that the information we can get from her is good going in with, say, the twins, what makes it suddenly not worth it if we instead were to bring in anyone else?

    B voters, we need to get more organized. Since our votes are counted separately they're never going to win over A unless we have sufficiently overlapping votes.
     
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  20. Nevill Arcane

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    Because it is another of the waifu choices. If we can't be with our waifus, we'd better not make them jealous.

    Tally (open)
    Akkudakku B1>B4>B7
    Baltika9 B1>B4>B3>A
    Nevill B5>A
    Kipeci B
    ERYFKRAD A
    Kashmir Slippers B1
    Elfberserker B5
    Fangshi B5>A
    Grimgravy B7
    Tigrane B5
    Kz3r0 A>B2>B1>B3>B6>B5>B4
    TOME B5>B6>A
    Lambchop19 B5
    Absinthe A
    ChumBucket B1>A
    Jester B7
    GreyViper B5
    The Brazilian Slaughter B2
    Esquilax B4

    A - 3 (5)
    Bx - 1 (0)
    B1 - 4 (2)
    B2 - 1
    B4 - 1
    B5 - 7 (8)
    B7 - 2
     
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  21. Kipeci Arcane

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    That's a lot more B5s than I thought we had, alright. Thanks for putting that together!
     
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  22. Jester Arbiter

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    mby we will find out the hell happened to her.
     
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  23. Rex Feral Liturgist

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    Why can't we pick the Sword Saint or someone capable?
     
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  24. Nevill Arcane

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    Possibly because they are guarding the bandits?

    I am more interested in why we can't pick Yunzi. Would be hilarious.
     
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