Bloodshifter
Educated
C2
Tiger Pig!
Tiger Pig!
The problem is that once we start participating, we won't be able to conceal our techniques and abilities. C keeps the techniques and abilities separated from our face, which is what we want. 1 creates confusion as to what our techniques and abilities actually are, and keeps attention from being entirely focused upon our masked persona, which will allow us to slip away easier back into our merchant persona. Really, it seems like the perfect combination, and I can't come up with a flaw for it beyond the morally objectionable aspect, which, honestly, isn't that bad.With our merchant identity we are even more 'nobody' than with the mask on. Will elaborate once I get close to keyboard.
I'm with Esquilax, C1 Zhang Jue is perfect for creating confusion and dischord amongst the pugilists. No one would know who the southern maniac's apprentice is, but if we win we can still claim credit for the victory, if we so choose. It keeps our options open whilst at the same time confusing and disorientating the competition. Whilst putting heat on the farmer's son, it diverts some of it so that he should be safe enough. How could we not go with it as an option?
With our merchant identity we are even more 'nobody' than with the mask on. Will elaborate once I get close to keyboard.
The problem is that once we start participating, we won't be able to conceal our techniques and abilities. C keeps the techniques and abilities separated from our face, which is what we want. 1 creates confusion as to what our techniques and abilities actually are, and keeps attention from being entirely focused upon our masked persona, which will allow us to slip away easier back into our merchant persona. Really, it seems like the perfect combination, and I can't come up with a flaw for it beyond the morally objectionable aspect, which, honestly, isn't that bad.
Give the codex a bro-like figure, and they won't ever betray them. We're in this for ourselves and the prince, nothing else. Let's not be Ean.
Let's be Shulgi.
But how will the mask affect our dealings with others in the locker room?
I'm willing to keep it flexible. The tournament takes place over a number of days. Now that you have a place to stay, do you keep the mask on as you return, or do you take it off somewhere in the city before going back to the inn, and repeat the same thing the next day?
This choice determines your persona during the tournament itself, not outside of it. That one defaults to the merchant's son for now. In other words, you're pretending to be a naive newbie pretending to be a masked pig.
Without the mask we could get valuable information just by talking. And I don't like throwing the farmer under the bus.
You just had to mention the aspect of Jing that I wanted to get rid of since the beginning, did you?
Moreover, if Jing is willing to get his hand dirty for the prince, it doesn't mean he likes to dirty his hands to help himself.
This. We already have a perfectly good cover identity that allows us to freely mingle with our competitors. Why jeopardize that by inventing yet another unnecessary identity that could then be traced to us, leading to question of who we really are and what are our motives? Why complicate by adding more ways that things can go wrong with our plan?It seems silly to try to make another disguise when most everyone already believes our first one, anyway. If anything, the mask might make people even more suspicious about us.
I don't really think that the C choices make much sense. We are already posing as the merchant's son, and we have told a number of people (I think) that we have an invite as our persona and that we are planning on entering.
If we enter as a person with a mask, someone might realize that our persona did not enter and that the pig-masked guy was not seen before, so they could connect who we were anyway. It seems silly to try to make another disguise when most everyone already believes our first one, anyway. If anything, the mask might make people even more suspicious about us.
This. We already have a perfectly good cover identity that allows us to freely mingle with our competitors. Why jeopardises that by inventing yet another unnecessary identity that could then be traced to us, leading to question of who we really are and what are our motives? Why complicate by adding more ways that things can go wrong with our plan?
I don't think we should throw the poor farmer under the bus. He is a bro and has done nothing to us. If we are intent on hiding our real identity anyway, we shouldn't stir the flames lest they come back and burn us.
They'll know us the merchant boy who was Zhang's apprentice all along without the mask in B as well. What does it matter if we have their style figured out beforehand from the incognito sparring matches or fake identity sparing matches? Is there a practical difference that justifies the risk to our current identity if it becomes known the merchant boy is behind the mask (and I really don't see us fooling everyone with something that simple)?But that's the point: it won't be traced to us. That's why we're spreading rumours. If there are multiple Zhang Jue apprentices coming out of the woodwork, nobody will know who to look for.
And our identity doesn't give us as much free reign as the mask would. With our masked identity, we can discover the flaws in our opponent's techniques without them actually seeing who they are. A few months down the road when we're challenging people face to face, they'll know us as the merchant boy who was Zhang's apprentice all along - but unbeknownst to them, we would have their style figured out beforehand from the incognito sparring matches in the tournament. Really, I can't see how the two-way flow of information doesn't favour C1.
They'll know us the merchant boy who was Zhang's apprentice all along without the mask in B as well. What does it matter if we have their style figured out beforehand from the incognito sparring matches or fake identity sparing matches? Is there a practical difference that justifies the risk to our current identity if it becomes known the merchant boy is behind the mask (and I really don't see us fooling everyone with something that simple)?
Yes it is a dick move, but it has benefits. Hopefully, we can protect/assist him discretely so that he doesn't get killed for it.
“Oh, yes. But don’t worry about it, I’m only sharing the information so that you don’t start suspecting your landlady of dubious practices and try to interfere under some misguided assumptions. If you’re staying across from me, I am sure you will have the urge to peek,” grins Qilin impishly. “Anyway, if you don’t interfere with my purpose here, I won’t interfere with yours. You just want to compete, right? Let me know and I won’t do a little test on the person you’re up against… or perhaps I will, if you’re looking for that little edge.” She winks at you, though you just sigh.
If it was more spelled out that people would strongly believe that the farmer was our master's disciple , then I might be tempted to vote for it because it would help us keep our identity, but I just don't buy our chances.
I'm not saying that it wouldn't work as it is, but I don't feel like jeopardizing this man when we don't even know how it will play out is reckless. People might not believe us or even track down who was spreading all the rumors and get suspicious. We also don't know what kind of fighter the farmer is. If he doesn't live up to their expectations, then people might look elsewhere.
I think the main thing that is going to give us away is us kicking a lot of ass as a random fighter. If we play our cards right and don't be too obvious about our abilities, we shouldn't have to make everyone think that the farmer is Zhang's apprentice because they wouldn't think that someone like us would be able to make it. Likewise, if we go around punching holes in people's chests, then no amount of rumors will probably convince people that we aren't Zhang's apprentice.
That or Cao'er or Yifang showing up to spectate and blowing our cover out of ignorance or by warning our opponent.
But what does that actually give us in practical terms? Why would us sparing incognito be better then us sparring under a false name when we come to them? We wouldn't gain any more information from it - in fact, we would learn less as they wouldn't talk to us while we are wearing a mask. And since we are not going to use our full capabilities anyway, them knowing that they have or haven't fought us before is irrelevant. It makes no difference if they are fighting our incognito identity or our false identity since all they are going to know about us is what we show them in the ring. And the risk of somebody noticing that we are the same person is high, unless everyone there is oblivious.Huge difference. They'll know that the merchant boy is Zhang's apprentice, but they won't connect the dots of the masked fighter also being the merchant boy. At least, not until it's too late. If we play our cards right here - and casting suspicion on Guo Fu will ensure that we will - they won't come to the conclusion that the fighter with the pig mask, Zhang's apprentice, and the merchant boy are one and the same. That's the whole point.
What, morality doesn't count as an argument? All right, how about because starting this rumour could be traced back to us too easily? All it takes is for the farmer to find out why everyone is avoiding him like the plaque, deny it and then ask who said that he was the Maniac's apprentice. And then you have people looking at us funny wondering if we are lying and we have made an enemy of the farmer boy.Here's a little thought experiment: if the Farmer character was an asshole - let's say he were someone like Master Rong's son - would you still be voting against C1? If you would be voting against C1 regardless of the Farmer's personality, regardless of whether he was a saint or the devil, why? I have not seen a convincing case that wasn't predicated on something other than "It isn't cool, bro".
Here's a little thought experiment: if the Farmer character was an asshole - let's say he were someone like Master Rong's son - would you still be voting against C1? If you would be voting against C1 regardless of the Farmer's personality, regardless of whether he was a saint or the devil, why? I have not seen a convincing case that wasn't predicated on something other than "It isn't cool, bro".
Jing isn't impressed by his competition and honestly, most of these guys are amateurs. Even without using our best stuff, I think we can bullshit our way through the initial matches.“Perhaps. I am not sure if I will. My meagre skill at martial arts managed to win a crest, and convince my father to let me come, but looking at the level of competition here I am afraid I will not be able to get anywhere,” you say nervously. In truth, what you have seen so far does not impress you one bit. The monk smiles and nods. “Yes, it is a rather tough crowd this year. They are saying this will be the most tightly fought competition in ages. We have the disciple of the Sword Saint Shangguan Chuji, the Twin Flowers of Huashan and Taishan’s Seven Heroic Youths, amongst so many other notable contestants!”
Do you have any idea how rare it is to find a bro in a treave LP? A bro is worth his weight in gold (which is a whole fucking lot for the Ox Farmer ) and I want to keep working with this guy down the line. Making friends with the right individuals is extremely important for someone like Jing, whom "upstanding orthodox" types will scorn wherever he goes. FarmerBRO is going places if he gets the chance, so I'd rather start getting into his good graces now. And keep him as far away as fucking possible from Zhang.Give the codex a bro-like figure, and they won't ever betray them, even if the betrayal means the bro looses his favorite spoon, or something else inconsequential. We're in this for ourselves and the prince, nothing else. Let's not be Ean.
Let's be Shulgi.