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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    This will be undoubtedly a risky action, but I am fairly confident that Shu has provided us enough tools to accomplish our mission. He has been prepared at least some time, even if he was surprised by the speed that dear emperor is dying.

    Indeed, I wonder will Treave
    castrate Jing if we do it third time. Any way voting for our new character as Dog rogue:troll:

     
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  2. Kayerts Arcane

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    Fate, inasmuch as it's a factor, tends to imply plot railroading by the powers that be, and as such can't be dodged. Just ask Laius: he duly takes his warning about this terrible son he's fathered, takes preventative steps, and the kid still ends up a motherfucker and he still ends up dead. You can bet he was bitching at his DM about that one. Point is, if we take the warnings about Jing being fated to bring about the downfall of the order of Heaven as valid, we can't do anything about it. We'll either be the noob who botched his role in the assassination and exposed Shun, or the coward who denied Shunbro help in his hour of need and thereby left the assassination in less capable hands.

    Anyway, I give Gao Ying & co. decent odds of pulling this one off if we decline. It seems unlikely that Shun will be personally angry at us if we take the mission and succeed, especially since the wording of B suggests our role in the assassination will be indirect. Still, it seems like a high-risk, low-reward proposition.

    B for now, because DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR.
     
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  3. m4davis Scholar

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  4. Grimgravy Augur Patron

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    It would be great if we could pull off the assassination via laxative. Cao'er and Jing should be able to whip up some crazy super-lax of some sort. Then it's a matter of slipping it to comatose emperor and he shit's himself to death. Probably wouldn't be much to trace back to anyone, and such an ignominious death would prove it was time for a change in leadership.

    As for the vote, are we best suited to participate in the murder plot or outside it? I don't think the palace is where we will be the most useful. There have got to be many people there who knew us and know we shouldn't be there. Our stealth is good, but not imperial palace good. I honestly think there are better people for that, and we are more useful elsewhere. Like someplace we can help whip up that crazy super-lax.
    A
     
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  5. Kipeci Magister

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    Where did the choice say anything about going to the palace?
     
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  6. Grimgravy Augur Patron

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    That is where the emperor is. If we directly participate in his murder somehow, it is logical that we would have to go there.
     
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  7. Kipeci Magister

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    What part of "It is not like you have to strangle the Emperor with your own two hands" in option B's first part implies that we participate that directly in the murder of the Emperor? Shun knows the difficulties that we would face in trying to stealthily assassinate the emperor when we're not allowed on the grounds of the palace on pain of death and aren't terribly skilled at sneaking. As intelligent as he is, I really don't think that he's going to have us operating in the palace. There are webs of intrigue going on, there are surely other parts to play in this assassination in further off places.
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    The action will be taking place in the palace with B, particularly since the other princes will be rushing there once the news that the Emperor has passed away in his sleep spreads. Sneaking is not mandatory, though.
     
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  9. treave Arcane Patron

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    ERYFKRAD - A
    Zero Credibility - B
    asxetos - B
    Rex Feral - B
    Smashing Axe - B
    Anabanana - B
    Mystiknight - B
    Nevill - B
    Lambchop19 - A
    Jester - B
    LWC1996 - B
    XenomorphII - B
    Kipeci - B
    TOME - B
    SirArvedeth - B
    Tigranes - B
    Kashmir Slippers - B
    Fangshi - B
    Esquilax - B
    Stygian Lurker - A
    Elfberserker - B
    Kayerts - B
    m4davis - B
    Grimgravy - A

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    Current tally:

    A - 4
    B - 20

    ***

    Poor Emperor. :cry:
     
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  10. Kashmir Slippers Augur

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    FOR THE EMPRAH CROWN PRINCE!
     
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  11. Jester Arbiter

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    Purge the unclean, or rather what you expect if we didn't even meet that guy? He is not causality of assassination, but lack of PR department.
     
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  12. Fangshi Arcane

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    Not too surprising really, the closest thing we have had to interaction with the Emperor was when we found out he had ordered us to be mutilated and thrown to the pigs. I would almost be open to killing the guy on principle alone.





    As for the whole fate thing who knows, for some reason I am not too worried, depending on the cosmology used it could have a variety of outcomes. I am in the process of rereading Dream of the Red Chamber and one of the passages reminded me of Jing:

    "Because there is no place under the clear sky and bright sun for the essence of cruelty and perversity, it congeals in deep caverns and the bowels of the earth. If wafted by winds or pressed upon by clouds, it is thrown into agitation and traces of it may escape. And should these meet the pure essence, good refuses to yield to evil while evil envies good- neither can prevail over the other. This is like wind, rain, lightning and thunder which cannot vanish into thin air or give way but must battle until they are spent. So in order to find some outlet these essences permeate human beings, who come into the world embodying both. Such people fall short of sages or perfect men, but neither are they out-and-out villains... "Your're saying that such people may become princes or thieves, depending on whether they're successful or not.""

    And so we have Jing, "perverted", murderous, and often unthinking and yet capable of acts of sublime virtue when given the chance. Perhaps he is fated to end the dynasty but maybe he can also restore it, replace it or remove the need for it altogether, make the right choices and we may still get a "good" ending after all.
     
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  13. Tribute Arbiter

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    That is a horrible, horrible way to die. Does he deserve to die from shitting out all of his internal organs?
     
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  14. Kipeci Magister

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    oops
     
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  15. Jester Arbiter

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    We will see wise sage... we will see.
     
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  16. Nevill Arcane

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    The guy is dead either way. Unless he somehow survives in A, in which case it becomes 'poor everyone'.

    That's what I am hoping for. The next Emperor will be of Tujue origins.
     
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  17. treave Arcane Patron

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    Another Path

    “Really? You haven’t bedded them? I’m surprised!” laughs the prince. The two of you are catching up and exchanging stories late into the night, accompanied by wine. Qilin and Cao’er had retired to another room to give you two room, while Tulu Huodu had returned to the Wudu Cult to brief his men.

    “What do you take me for, some libidinous maniac?”

    “I did think you were the sort that did anything that moved. Certainly the chambermaids were full of assorted tales as proof. Are those girls that unattractive to you? I thought they were rather fetching, myself.” Shun grins as he downs another cup of wine, his lips loosened by the drink.

    “No, it’s not that. It’s just that…” You cannot find the words to express how you feel at the moment. Shun gives you an evil grin, wagging his finger. “Ah, I get it. I understand. You can’t get it up if they mean something to you? Virginity is a state of mind, and you are a virgin when it comes to serious relationships, eh?”

    “What?”

    “Better get over that mental block, my friend, or else some poor girls are going to be really disappointed in the future.”

    You throw a cup at him, missing his head by a fair distance as it breaks against the wall. The Crown Prince laughs. “Just like old times,” he grins happily. “Anyway, so the plan is divided into two main parts?” you ask, attempting to change the topic. “Back to the plan, huh?” sighs the prince wearily. “Yes. First my agents will ensure that the Emperor passes away peacefully and naturally. Then, once his passing is announced, a good majority of my brothers who think they qualify for the throne will rush into the palace. There will be bickering, though whether bloodshed will ensue is still up in the air. When they are all gathered in one place, all thoughts of caution thrown to the wind in their blind ambition, we will capture them and secure the palace for my arrival.”

    “In order for it to be perfect, however, you need a further distraction. Something – or someone – that will pull their attention away from your men maneuvering behind the scenes, and ensure that they are all gathered in one spot…” you say, leaning against the table.

    “Yes. I would prefer that you take that role. Leave the Emperor’s death in my hands.”

    “Are your men on that side trustworthy?”

    “Yes,” he says confidently. “Of course, if you really do want to assist in the assassination, I will not say no. Your presence will make me relieved either way.” Shun looks down, muttering, “It will all soon be over at any rate.”

    “Are you sure about this, Shun?” you ask.

    “Of course. What other choice do I have?” His voice is pained – as he looks up at you, you realize that he had been putting up a front when dealing with Tulu Huodu. Only now, when it is just the two of you alone, could he relax and be true to his own heart. He is not as sure of his path as he seemed to be even though he has resolved to carry it through to the end. “If I could wait for him to awaken I would, but that would lead to pointless deaths of innocents in the meantime. Better to sacrifice his life for his country. It is more than he has ever done in all his years in power anyway,” says Shun bitterly. The both of you fall silent.

    After a while, you break the silence. “Do you really need him dead? What if he just disappears?”

    “What are you talking about?”

    “What if his pills truly turned him immortal, and he ascended into Heaven?”

    Shun stares at you. “Are you drunk? Those pills don’t work! We know that!”

    “But no one would dare to claim otherwise, right? It’s the same reason why you cannot just say he did himself in,” you say, inspiration flooding into your mind. “So… if he goes missing in a way only an immortal could, say, from his chambers which have been barred from the inside, and leaves behind a note of some sort saying that he is now in the Celestial Palace and he is very happy, and everyone should follow you as the new Emperor… what would happen?”

    Shun bites his lower lip pensively. “I… I don’t know. It’s crazy. It just might… There would be arguments amongst the brothers until I manage to return anyway, but it would certainly reduce the number of siblings willing to make a bid for the throne. What are you thinking of, anyway?”

    “If you do not truly want to kill your father, you do not have to, Shun. There are plenty of retired emperors amongst your own ancestors. Emperor Zhaozong, Emperor Shunzong, Emperor Xuanzong, Emperor Ruizong… even the founding Emperor, Emperor Gaozu himself, chose to abdicate and allow his son to rule. It would be no surprise for Emperor Taisheng to retire to Heaven as an immortal, which is a far better place than any of the other emperors went to in retirement,” you explain. “There is precedent… and the best part is, no one can say otherwise. All we have to do is kidnap the Emperor. It is a good thing he is not conscious… I mean to say, his spirit is communing with the Jade Emperor and has temporarily relinquished its mortal shell.”

    “Kidnap the Emperor!” Shun can only laugh in disbelief. “Stealing him away from the Imperial Palace is far more difficult than ending his life, Jing. Where would you even put him, afterwards? Is there any place safe enough to hide him until he reaches the end of his life?”

    “I happen to know an island paradise in the southern seas… I assure you, the Emperor will not know the difference.”

    This time, Shun’s laughter is from genuine amusement. “You… Jing, you really are something else. Always… always you turn all my logic on its head and show me another path. Oh, how I wish I could go with this plan. It would be so much more fun. So much less troubling.”

    “Why won’t you?”

    “Because I cannot trust anyone besides you to carry it out. Having the Emperor disappear is one thing… having him alive, and possibly waking up someday… that is something I cannot entrust to just anyone. I can only trust you with it. You are the only one in this world I can trust to act according to my heart and not what you think is best for me. As your brother I know you mean well and it is a plan that I think would be wonderful, but as your prince I dread the consequences should you fail. Do you know what that means?”

    You understand what he is saying. Succeed or fail, this plan’s responsibility will lie on your shoulders… or rather, your head. That is the only way Shun can afford to justify allowing you to carry out this mission both to himself and to his agents in the capital that are awaiting his orders. The assassination is the less risky path, compared to getting away with an unconscious Emperor from the middle of the Imperial Palace, but still…

    ***

    A. You will participate in the assassination attempt. The agents may need backup if things go wrong, and having them get away unnoticed is the most urgent detail of the entire plan. Here is where your attentions should be focused.

    B. You act as the distraction, as Shun wishes. This should be a relatively easy task, though no less risky – you would have to face his brothers and laugh in their faces. It would be rather interesting to rub their royal pride in the mud.

    C. You persuade Shun to carry out Operation Immortal. Let the Emperor Taisheng be known forever as the one who had succeeded in attaining immortality and the wisdom of the universe, and then send him off as an addition to Zhang Jue’s collection of oddities.

    ***

    While preparing for the mission, Chi Tianxie and Yoriwaka have offered some training as help. The Scarlet Scorpion, seemingly eager for you to gain a better impression of him and his daughter, approaches you with several suggestions:

    A. Wudu Fushun (Five Poisons Taming, 五毒服馴) The ability to tame and train the five principle poisonous animals of the Wudu Cult - the snake, the centipede, the toad, the scorpion and the spider - to do your bidding. Real experts are said to be able to use these animals as scouts, and even command an army of them.

    B. Ruanhong Zhusuo (Crimson Spider Silken Ropes, 軟紅蛛索) A technique that relies on the Wudu Cult’s specially treated spider silk, which is as tough as steel. The threads can be used to enhance offense or defense in equal measure when wrapped tightly, and are extremely effective at binding enemies when unravelled.

    C. Qinggong upgrade: Through incorporation of the Wudu Cult’s own qinggong, you manage to raise your skill. (Qinggong +1, Kuanglang Step upgraded to +3 Stealth, +2 Agility)

    ***

    Yoriwaka, impressed at your loyalty to the Prince on undertaking this dangerous mission, has offered more help so that you may succeed at your task and return alive.

    A. Reikan upgrade: Upon further instruction from Yoriwaka, Reikan now increases your perception by a greater amount. (Reikan upgraded to +3 Perception)

    B. Kagemi. (影身, Shadow Body). A method of silent moving that melds well with your Kuanglang Step – Kuanglang Step will increase to a higher level, allowing you to be undetectable to all but an elite few. (Additional +2 Stealth to Kuanglang Step).
     
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  18. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    1. C>B.
    2. C.
    3. Anything.
     
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  19. asxetos Augur

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    C. This will be hard. I bet we will have only one chance not to die and carry out the operation, but i am willing to take that risk.
    C. I like all options but Kuanglang Step upgrade is a no-brainer combo with 1C.
    B. I really would like to pick A here, but again, no-brainer combo with 1C.
     
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  20. treave Arcane Patron

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    Just to point out, the qinggong upgrade is actually a generic skill/technique level increase and you will have chances to train such an improvement elsewhere, but the Wudu-specific techniques will not be so easy to get in the future.

    Of course, you should pick what you are interested in and think will be more useful to you, so it depends on whether you think the Wudu techniques are a good investment. No right or wrong answer here.
     
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  21. Nevill Arcane

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    Oh, wow. "Zhang Jue’s collections of oddities" cracked me up hard. He should start a museum one day.

    I am incredibly relieved that Shun was just putting up a tough front in the previous update, and that he is still a bro. I don't want him to oversee the murder of his own father.

    CCB for maximum stealth.
     
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  22. MystiKnight Novice

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    B C1, B2, A3.

    Go reclaim those lost perception points! Money says there'll be at least one Per. check in the following missions.
     
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  23. Anabanana Augur

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    Beautiful. Although all the options are extremely attractive, I cannot in good conscience choose anything but CCB. Let's go Operation Immortal! Not getting that perception boost hurts though. And the snake eye. And the spider silk defense-offense combo. treave why do you torture us like this

    EDIT: Screw it, going for BBA.
     
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  24. Azira Arcane Patron

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    B immortal emperor sounds delightfully amusing, but too risky. Let's snub Shun's brothers instead :troll:
    A Poisonous centipedes inside the eyesocket! :yeah:
    A Perception upgrade? Yes please. :drink:
     
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  25. Nevill Arcane

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    When we were offered a choice between +2 PER and +2 Stealth, you voted for stealth. And now when the choice is between +1 PER and +2 Stealth, you are voting for Reikan?

    I just can't understand some people.
     
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