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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    If Sekhenun intents to betray us, the more we wait the more time she has to prepare. And the more she prepares the more we feel betrayed by her when we confort her. Now she is in our power and we can hopefully intimidate her to back down, before the betrayal grows too big and we go raging and devouring all in our path because of that.
     
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  2. Stygian Lurker Liturgist

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  3. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Or, we go all berserk on her and devour the one with all the contacts and master plans, information and scientific expertise. Not to mention, that's another point to giving into our hunger, and that can;t be good.
    Trust me, I'm all for pressing her against the wall and getting the information out tooth-by-tooth if we have to, but the repercussions are too great to do that. And even if she does survive, she'll definitely betray us, or at least never work with us again, because she can't trust us anymore. We must show restraint here. I'm for abandoning honor before reason, but not common fucking sense.
     
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  4. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I can't imagine that someone like Sekhenun wouldn't have a contingency plan in case we tried something funny. Think about it - from her perspective, the prospect of us turning on her is an even more likely and dangerous one, than the other way round. After all, for Sekhenun, all her great plans rely on us; for us, we can always walk away and get involved in things another way.

    I don't mind intimidating her and reminding her we aren't to be fucked with, but it's delicate - it's not like we haven't made things difficult for her in the past. Push her too far and it will make her determined to deceive / betray us, and cut off a great source of information. I think if we want to make sure we aren't taken up the posterior later on, we don't do it by 'frightening' Sekhenun into loyal submission (heh, yeah right), we do it by (1) maintaining good relations with her, and (2) building up some resources of our own. We need allies of our own, troops of our own, information sources of our own, for that inevitable day when we can no longer cooperate. Gudersu is a good start, but building up our own rapport with Edem also seems reasonable.

    treave, will B still make her take out the tracker? I'd think that's the bare minimum whatever we choose.
     
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  5. Baltika9 Arcane

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    treave: I second this. Trust is a two way street. We're meeting her halfway. The other half is up to her. And if she refuses, we'll know where we stand.
     
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  6. Arpad Educated

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    B as long as she takes out the tracker.
     
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  8. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Going Hulk sounds tittilating, but ultimately, my vote has to be B
     
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  9. Quetzacoatl Liturgist

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  10. Baltika9 Arcane

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    These rages, "berserkergang" notwithstanding, are beginning to alarm me. If we're going to let our hunger get the best of us every time we get angry, then that is not a comforting thought. It can lead to very uncomfortable circumstances, say we see another child dragged off into the corner in broad daylight and lose control of ourselves. Or, during combat, like we did at Daedalus' place:
    and then, where will we be? Ean is doing it "bad men" so far, but how much time this "eating bad people for Great Justice" has before our hunger subverts our morals to include more and more petty crimes into that category?

    Worst part is, we can't stop feeding now, or we stand no chance of defeating Marduk, and the cradle of civilization is screwed. I've a feeling that my suggestion of going Buddha for a couple decades will be more a matter of necessity then lulz with this. That is why getting angry with Sekhenun and intimidating her into giving us information is a bad idea.
    treave: How about controlling emotions while feeding, can Ean at lest do that? Or try to?
    Bros, what do you think? Am I worrying for nothing?
     
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  11. Helly Translating for brofists Patron

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  12. Baltika9 Arcane

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    And on a final note, I think we've just been married off. We might want to think twice about the repercussions.
    I'm pretty sure that the next time we see her, Itani will be straddling our lap at the least, and if we "dishonor" Gudersu's daughter, either by sex or refusal, we just might lose the gutians as quickly as we won them.
     
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  13. m4davis Scholar

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  14. ScubaV Prophet

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    I really want to choose A because I'm not sure when we'll get another chance. But I agree that we need to get a handle on this hunger rage. It seems to be an extremely powerful tool, but only if we can control it. B
     
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  15. Thoughts...
    The way I see it, bros, there are a few short-term (relatively) priorities we've got so far:
    1. Cure or at least learn to control our hunger. - Sek is probably the only one willing to help us on this and it may tie into her own goals of curing her people.
    2. Kill Marduk.
    3. Kill and/or pacify the immortal "gods" of Greece. (Hopefully either Marduk will help with this or vice versa...)
    4. Continue to seek allies.
    5. Reforge the weapon Sek told us about. It sounded like Anbar-Shi on steroids. Should help us with 2&3. We'll probably need Sek for this.
    6. Learn light manipulation. Treave mentioned this earlier. It'd make us a near perfect assassin. Almost completely undetectable.
    7. Identify and deal with new threats as they come.
    Whatever comes our way next. We might want to consider these when making our choices.

    In this case, threatening Sek might help us with 7... Unless she's not a threat...and we kill and eat her or she refuses to bend, thinks we're nuts and just ditches us somehow. In which case, we'd be further from all our objectives.
     
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  16. treave Arcane Patron

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    It hasn't occurred to Ean to control it because so far he hasn't had reason to. Go back to the first choice of this chapter. Basically his mindset is now that feeding is ok if I do it to the bad, and so far only the bad elicit the anger. His resurrection means he's not a natural extension of the Ean before, and that his character becomes more malleable where the hunger is concerned; it's part of his nature and he's more likely to give in to it if there's no reason not to.

    As for the tracker, she says she'll remove it, but it's up to you whether you trust her near your body again.
     
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  17. And Seks being bad so Ean's gonna hulk out and eat her... Crap didn't realize we were pulling that trigger back then.

    :incline: on the choices/consequences, Treavebro.

    We're Ean though, right? Or a part of him? We should be able to make him at least question his behaviour so far as we all are noticing it more and more. A nudge back toward self control if nothing else.

    edit: How are our regen powers, Treave? Can we just ask her to point where it is so we can cut/dig it out ourselves? Will we heal up quickly if we do?
     
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  18. oscar Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    A. Devour her, gain all her information and become King of Sumeria with the aid of the Guitans.
     
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  19. Kipeci Arcane

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  20. Esquilax Arcane

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    Regarding the upcoming showdown between Marduk and Zeus, I'm putting my money on Zeus. Marduk's most powerful lieutenant, Mindfucker Jr., is going to remain in Sumeria and Nusku even said that he didn't expect any of his experimental troops to come back home. Babylon probably has a serious edge when it comes to mortal warriors due to the alliance with Egypt and Marduk's own super-soldiers, but they've still got to fight a whole fucking pantheon.

    I think it really comes down to who has the most Immortals/Gieloth. And the Greeks have more. This thing is going to drag out and take some time (I'm predicting a couple of years) but we must intervene before either side defeats the other. I shudder to think of the kind of powers a guy like Zeus could gain should he slay Marduk.

    We should look into ways of increasing our power that don't require devouring anything. Obtaining the loyalty of Gudersu's people is a great start*, finding the parts for another Anbar-Shi would also help a lot. Parts are scarce, but I think we should be able to find them if we raid the places where Nusku performed his experiments. Another good bet might be one of Marduk's palaces or temples.

    Our power level before eating Nusku was almost where we were at in our prime, so it seems reasonable to assume that we are at least as strong as we were pre-earthquake at this point. Combined with a good army, I think it should be enough:

    * I'm predicting that our true bro Gundersu has gone on a trip to Gutium to unite all the Gutian tribes in the east for an invasion of Sumeria.
     
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  21. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    Wasn't it established that our hunger doesn't work that way? We get no new knowledge or powers from feeding. The only thing feeding does is prevent power loss.

    We really need to learn to control this thing before it starts to control us, and we've been feeding way too much lately. I propose a Gieloth and human free diet until we either learn to control our rage and hunger or we really, really need to be at full power.
     
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  22. CappenVarra phase-based phantasmist Patron

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    I'm getting strong Devour Soul vibes here... :justasplanned:
     
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  23. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Yeah, I don't think going all "Hail to the King, baby" is all that good of an idea. I mean, remember when the voices said that this would bring a lot of attention from the Masters and Gieloth both? Yeah, we've been galloping all around Babylon and nobody seems to know we exist, save for the people we talked to.
    I'm sensing an opportunity here. If we can get through this Zeus and Marduk situation without being discovered for what we are, we're better off going ghost and doing the important things, like piecing Vajra together, finding the cure for ourselves and the Gieloth, learning about the conflicts, etc.
    treave: I request that Ean asks Sekhenun something in the following vibe: "Sekhenun, I'm trusting you here." I'd very much like to see her reaction.
    Esquilax:
    Ahem.
     
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  24. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    I agree with you in regards to becoming king, Baltika, there's just too much time wasted on petty administration. What I think we should do instead is what we did in Egypt, set up a trustworthy honourable king and stick around for a few years to secure their rule, and then move on. It will keep us in the shadows while affording us influence and if things turn dire, a stronghold to fall back to.
     
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  25. Baltika9 Arcane

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    OR! Or, we knock Itani up(marry her, of course. I don't want to piss off Gudersu and, by proxy, the Gutians. Besides, she's a good girl, wouldn't do to fuck her over), then dramatically "die of poisoning" and tell Gudersu that He has the regency, and our children the throne, or something to that effect. Well, how 'bout it, bros?
    I think that's a smart move, immortal cannibal children and abandonment issues notwithstanding.
     
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