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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Omicron Scholar

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  4. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Maybe delaying Olympus and China until we'll have a choice between the Terrasphagos crawling up our sphincter or the Chinese (whoever wins) gangraping us isn't such a bright idea? Certainly, jumping into Olympus is risky as hell, all things considered, but isn't that what Ean is about? Leading, inspiring and taking on impossible odds to come out on top, not playing it safe with papers and threesomes?
    We have a more-or-less stable empire, an heir on the way and a fanatical army to carry the boy to the throne. The Gieeloth aren't any closer to going tree-form, and even if they do, it'll take them some years to get mining. The Chinese know they're infiltrated.
    Even if it takes us a while to do, I think we have the brains to do this.
     
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  5. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    B2. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if there was limited damage to some Greek cities, if only to convince the rest of the Empire and the world that the threat is real. I'm willing to hear out A, but we've been consistent thus far in believing in the Empire rather than Ean Solo, so we shouldn't throw it away if we don't have a good plan for the rift.
     
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  6. Esquilax Arcane

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    If we wanted to do this, the previous choice would have been the time. At that point, there were far less Terasphagos within the miasma than there are now. Because the miasma is swarming with them, we pretty much need an army.

    Is it worth pissing off Athena over? It just seems like a very short-sighted thing to do. treave already mentioned that our army's morale would remain unaffected, so I don't see why we shouldn't just get these people to safety. If we win, nobody is going to remember that we evacuated them. If we lose, at least the Terasphagos can't ravage the countryside for more biomass.
     
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  7. Baltika9 Arcane

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    I have to disagree, actually. While it is risky as hell, which I don't deny in the slightest, the Terrasphagos are on this side of the portal. On the other side, well, we don't really know what is on the other side. We could go in there and come out blind babbling about stars everywhere (which I seriously doubt, since we're Immortal and all), but one thing is for sure: if we show balls and guts, this will inspire the men. Coupled with Ean tearing up whoever is stupid enough to get in his way and destroying/closing the access to the Terrasphagos could turn the tide ultimately in our favor. Or, jumping into the Warp could be simply suicide. But, with Kodexian ability to prevail and horribly fuck up at the same time, I believe we shall be successful. 'Sides, we have Vajra to guide us. I just hope the new Master doesn't corner Ean in there after he's done kicking ass.

    And 2 in conjunction with B is unnecessary waste of life. When treave said
    it means that it probably will make things worse, which means the Terrasphagos probably will break through. And losing both lives and cities will invite even more talks of weakness and sour our relationship with Athena.

    Which, come to think of it, is another reason to charge into the Warp. Any fucker that tries to split the Empire/usurp it will be swiftly put in place by Lil' E.

    Edit: treave, I know you're probably tired of my questions, but can Immortal-human crossbreeds be amplified by the voices and the Masters, like Ean was?
     
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  8. Esquilax Arcane

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    I don't think that jumping into a transdimensional portal will be suicide for Ean at all - it'll be safe. Zeus created this rift with two pieces of Vajra, but couldn't teleport with Master Base Command without our crucial third piece. Likewise, Ean can't even create a rift with one piece, but it's reasonable to assume that Ean will have the ability to safely traverse already existing rifts with one piece. The recent updates wouldn't have mentioned Ean's increasing connection to Vajra as a red herring. I'm willing to flop to A2, but treave, will we have somebody like Artemis/Edem serving as backup in the miasma?

    And yeah, I'm with you on B2, it's dumb. The Terasphagos will break through our lines at some point, it's inevitable. And when they do, they'll be wreaking havoc on nearby villages:

    With the numbers that we're expecting, we aren't going to hold off all of them. So what if a bunch of peasants see it as weakness? If they have a problem with it, then they can join our men at Olympus if they think they're so fucking brave. Letting them gorge their way through Greece is reckless, and I don't like Tigranes suggestion that this might jog our people into action. If there's anyone that knows about the threat the Terasphagos pose, it's the Greeks:

    They know the danger that this swarm presents, and they'll leave their houses without a fuss. Besides, our Empire has enough internal stability to handle it.

    :lol: The E in Lil' E must stand for Embryo. Our unborn child can't do shit, but we can rely on the network of spies we've built up over the decades to protect him/her from any potential assassination plots. No matter what happens, I'm certain that our child is going to grow to adulthood to lead the Empire.

    Edit: So, should A2 succeed, what would be the plan? Fight our way through the miasma while our men hold Olympus, then traverse the rift with the intention of acquiring the other pieces, right?
     
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  9. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Am I the only one that got a picture of a burly, seven foot tall rebel leader getting bitchslapped by an embryo? "Gwit da fwuck owta hewe wit dat sheet, mudda fudda!" Yeah, the Empire is probably in good hands, excluding the Gieloth reaching a breakthrough. I am actually looking forward to Ean walking out twenty years later and meeting Lil' E ("So, whatcha doin' on my turf, gramps?").

    Seriously, though, I doubt Sekhenun will let Ean's progeny get compromised (remember the Big Sis Sekhenun short, somewhere in chapter five?), and even then he has these guys
    [​IMG]
    and these guys:
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    to back him up, so excluding a birth defect/corruption because of his father's nature, he's good to go.
    Hmm...I wonder if he'll end up like Creed (Not that I'm suggesting anything here, treave. Nope, not at all. Don't mind me. Oh just do a short, for chrissake).

    Edit: and besides, running into the Eye of Terror and yelling "KHORNE, I'M COMING FOR YOUR PUNK ASS!" should win Athena to Ean's side completely and pretty much have her carry the kid to the throne personally. If it doesn't, I'm giving up on that woman, there's just no convincing a cold-hearted bitch like her.
     
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  10. treave Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, they can, if the right circumstance presents itself. The next seeding won't occur for a good while, though.

    Artemis is a given, her navigational abilities coupled with the compass won't lead you wrong. Now it's just a matter of holding off Terasphagos until you can find the rift, which you are still only assuming to be at the center of Olympus (reasonable assumption though) given the lack of info on it being anywhere else.
     
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  11. Esquilax Arcane

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    I see. In that case, I believe Vajra might function as our compass once we start "getting warm" so to speak. Remember during the gathering of power when Zeus caused the rift:

    When our piece of Vajra senses great power related to the other two pieces near it, it begins to resonate. Sure, the other pieces are a dimension away, but the rift itself was caused by Vajra, so my theory is that it should also resonate with Vajra. That means, once we start getting warm, we'll feel it vibrating or glowing blue. In this way, we'll be able to gauge the position of the rift better when we use it in conjunction with the compass.

    treave, a question regarding Terasphagos swarms:

    Way back when we conquered Hattusa, a new form came out of the rift. What is the third Terasphagos form like and is it more dangerous than the two we already know of? I'm asking because I'm curious if the new Terasphagos is a siege form. The Terasphagos strike me as very adaptable, and if we going to encounter a new type during this incursion that can easily shatter our fortifications (not saying we are), we're going to be better off taking charge and leading into the miasma. The same strategy that we had forty years ago might not work today.
     
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  12. treave Arcane Patron

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    Not much more, they're just bird forms. Probably about as big as the average vulture. They're individually less dangerous than the hound form, but in flocks they can really wreck things up. Usually the soldiers just try to shoot down as many as they can, or ignore them if they aren't attacked. There's no real way to stop them right now with the technology you have. The good thing is that their range is limited by the miasma, so most of the ones that escape only terrorize the countryside for a month or so then return or die off.
     
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  13. Baltika9 Arcane

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    We pretty much we let Ean do what he does best (kick ass and takes names), if he hasn't gone soft yet, that is. Overall, solid plan, if we don't get killed on the approach. Or in the rift. Or coming out of it.
    Do I want to know?
    Actually, yes. Yes I do.
     
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  14. newcomer Learned

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    When will we seed Sekhenum btw?
     
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  15. Esquilax Arcane

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    Option B isn't looking very attractive to me anymore. even though it seems like the safe choice at first glance, it doesn't really seem very viable if you examine things:

    I have a feeling that the same tactics that worked before won't work now. The reason for this is that the miasma has given the enemy a cover of darkness and allows them much more opportunity to strike without warning. I know this is baseless speculation, but I'm worried about the possibility of a new Terasphagos form appearing, specifically designed to tear down our fortifications. Whatever greater being is sending these things must realize that the swarming tactics it used for the prior incursion were a failure, so I believe that they'll begin to switch things up now.

    We've got an extremely difficult situation as a defender; we've got an enemy hidden by the cover of darkness that can strike from a lot of angles and is practically endless. Sure, our archers can pepper the miasma with arrows from their fortifications, but they won't be able to see shit unless the Terasphagos are already upon them considering how close the miasma is to our position. Remember that a few updates prior we voted for this choice so we could scout the miasma better:

    I know this isn't very bro, but something similar to the Fabian Strategy could work quite well. The Terasphagos collect human biomass, so if we simply flee and evacuate everybody in the area, they'll need to look for human biomass deeper into our territory. If we use our road system to evacuate our people, we could potentially wait them out for a couple of weeks until they weaken and die. It's not a bad idea. Of course, just like the Fabian Strategy, it's going to be a political disaster. :lol:

    However, I'd rather charge in and go for the rift personally. We can punch a hole through the Terasphagos with Artemis, attacking them while our men are defending the areas outside the miasma. This will make the likelihood of a Terasphagos breach much lower and the job of our defenders a lot easier. It's certainly risky, but I'm not convinced that B is much safer at all.

    Flopped my original vote.
     
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  16. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Esquilax Cunctator :lol:

    I wouldn't vote for C since it implies blind panic withdrawal, instead like you I am leaning more towards A for now, although I've no idea how we'll manage to seal the rift without yet another horrible consequence coming to bite us.
     
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  17. treave Arcane Patron

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    Votes for this session are counted as a group. I'm trying to establish a pattern of alphabets being counted separately, and numbers being counted in bloc with the choices they are linked to.

    And my next project should definitely embrace full retard and be a dating CYOA. :lol:
     
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  18. Esquilax Arcane

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    Haha I know, but really, the idea isn't half-bad! Their objective is to find and collect human biomass. If they can't find any humans to collect, then they have to go deeper and deeper into our territory to achieve their mission. The deeper they go, the weaker they become, the more dangerous it is for them.

    The other big problem with the Fabian Strategy (other than the political ramifications) is that the Terasphagos will be heading north. Which means that the Northmen will have to deal with them. Oops!

    Maybe it's just a bit of patented treave exaggeration a la DESTROY ALL TENTACLES!!! and FRY THE MOTHERFUCKER!!!

    Well, we won't seal the rift, at least not initially. My thinking was to use our piece of Vajra to see how it reacts, then to head to the other side in hopes of finding the other pieces. The problem with A is that it relies on a shitload of assumptions (a few reasonable ones) and a lot of risks, such as:
    • Actually making it there in the first place is going to be really hard. We might not even make it that far.
    • Why go on a solo mission now when we already had the option to before? There were less Terasphagos then, so now it's an even more dangerous proposition. This might be flip-flop induced stupidity.
    • We didn't pick a power boost in the beginning of the chapter, instead focusing on getting more control over our hunger. While I don't regret that choice, it's going to make doing this way tougher.
    • The assumption that we'll be able to walk through the other side of the rift safely. Pretty reasonable given our mastery of Vajra. We definitely can't close it, but we can probably walk it.
    • How the fuck are we going to deal with whatever is on the other side? The assumption here is that the "Queen" for lack of a better word creating these things is sending most of her spawn to Earth, leaving herself relatively unguarded.
    • Is Vajra even in Terasphagos land?
    Actually, now that I'm writing it down, A sounds pretty retarded. B2 and B1 are tied, and of the two, B1 is the far better choice. I would flop back to B1 if we need to break the tie.
     
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  19. treave Arcane Patron

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    Interestingly, choosing to master Vajra earlier would've opened up a choice for you regarding the rift at about 10 years after the founding of the empire.
     
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  20. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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  21. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    Where do you get this? The only news we have received was when Artemis came back from there. And Artemis has been helping us to map the miasma, so we haven't get any news. That doesn't mean there aren't any news.

    We had the option to solo last time, and it wasn't interesting then, but now that there are thousands of enemies between us and the rift, it is suddenly interesting? And we don't have a clue if we can come back from the rift. Or if we can even enter it. If we want to go rift-jumping, it should be after we have dealt with China.

    B1.
     
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  22. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    We're getting this from treave's answer to my question about the Gieloth information network:

     
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  23. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Actually, they don't need a new breed:
    Going from this, Lictors would be redundant for them, since they are able to swarm their way out of there.

    As for this:
    • We might not. No guts, no glory. And Ean is all about the guts.
    • Because now is the time to do it. I have this feeling that delaying these problems and LARP'ing the IG will eventually lead to both problems getting way out of hand, and we'll have to choose between anal penetration, fellatio or being spit-roasted. We'll be fucked is what I'm trying to say. Besides which, this horde is obviously too big for our men to handle. Even if they win, they will sustain very heavy casualties and even if the Terrasphagos don't break through, we'll loose a lot of our army right there and then, decreasing their faith in their Emperor. And why would we waste life and resources like that?
    • No, but this fragment is almost mastered.
    • Again, risky as hell. Isn't that what Ean is about?
    • Isn't that what Ean is about? Taking on the most impossible of odds and winning? And besides, treave already confirmed Artemis will be coming with us, so Ean is not going in alone, though her presence does little to comfort me.
    • Well, we won't find out standing here, that's for sure.
    Edit: A also means that we leave Lil' E to the whims of circumstance an since he's a demigod with the power to shape nations, that is a rather big decision. Abandonment issues ahoy.
     
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  24. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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  25. newcomer Learned

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    A is just going to be flip-flop disaster. How come you guys are convinced that we can fight a horde of Terasphagos IN THE MIASMA while we can barely hold them when they're out of it? Heck, C is a better option compared to A, honestly.

    EDIT: FLOPPING TO ANYTHING AS LONG AS A DO NOT WIN
     
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