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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Arpad Educated

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  2. Baltika9 Arcane

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    You know, it's a damn shame we eidn't take the combat upgrade. With Dio's political savvy we could've made him an Imperial General, changed his house's name to Tullius and went to Skyrim to fight the Stormcloacks, FUS-RO-DAH-ing all the way.
     
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  3. Baltika9 Arcane

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    treave: some questions, some serious, some less so. Does Dio have any memories of Ean's life after the labyrinth?
    Did the tea the Master offer Ean have the same smell as the smelly shit the Watcher pulled out on Dio?
    Does Dio feel any presences inside himself, like the voices?
    And, finally, the most important question of all: had we gone with the Masters after the rescue, would this have been our assigned Master Mistress/ "duty station"?:
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    Inquiring minds must know.

    Edit: Is implanting memories an ability in the setting, since Shulgi could implant suggestions?
     
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  4. aleam iacis Scholar

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    Hi guys, I'm a newbie/lurker(I've read the 2 vampire LPs, the planeswalker LP, most of the threads of fate LP, the warhammer 40k &42k lps, Arcanum by RK47, the blackwell trilogy, rogue survivor, one of the Sengoku Rance ones, and all The Barbarian ones), but I wanted to ask(since nobody else did, I guess as Japanese weaboo is so reviled here), is the new LP character/Ean shard based off a successful Dio Brando from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? Blonde guy, super talented and cold, selfish and amoral, gets taken into a noble family, tries to get rid of his new 'brother' and 'father'...

    Also this LP rocks(as do the others I mentioned)!!!:love:
     
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  5. treave Arcane Patron

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    A - 3
    B - 10

    ***

    Chapter 7.9: Scheming in Crete

    Scholars were uncertain whether the mythical Aegean War that preceded the foundation of the Shinar Empire truly occurred, but there were signs of a large conflict from artifacts and weaponry dating back to that time period. It was also then that the people of Crete was supposedly cursed by the Greek god Zeus, dooming them to a life of undeath. No one approached the island for centuries, fearful of the walking dead, but by the time some brave Shinari scholars visited the island in 1116 A.C., they found nothing but strangely well-preserved buildings. It was totally uninhabited, with no human presence anywhere on the island. As their archaeological efforts continued slowly over the next century, the island stubbornly refused to yield any corpses to the scholars. Even the tombs and mausoleums were empty. It was not long after that that the Greeks moved in. They were starved on space on Peloponessus, and it did not make sense to waste good, fertile land - and inhabitable buildings - on the basis of a fairytale. The legendary palace of Knossos was refurbished to become the official residence of the island's ruler, and it had become a thriving part of the Empire ever since.

    ***

    "It seems that your reputation for throwing lavish banquets is well-earned, Governor Charmion." You raise your glass of wine, tipping it slightly towards the well-fed, jolly chief of the island. He unleashes a deep-throated belly laugh, his rolls jiggling in tune to his sonorous voice. "Just as long as you enjoy it, Sir Camna. Have you seen the bulls?"

    "How could I not? This place is full of them. They appear to be a bit damaged though, if you don't mind me saying so."

    "It is not my fault, Sir Camna." says Charmion solemnly. "My predecessor was... sensitive about his endowments - or lack thereof. To have Minos's very realistically made bulls poking him in the eye at every corner was too much for his poor ego to handle, I fear, and one day he snapped and took a chisel to every statue. I was here by the next week."

    You laugh. "You appear to be enjoying the place, at least."

    "Oh, far better than dull old Korinthos, or gods forbid, New Athens. I like it here, despite that feeling you get sometimes that someone might be spying on you. It must be the draft in this palace, it makes one feel uneasy."

    You knew that feeling. You knew what was giving you that feeling, though - you had not come alone. Two of your Watchers were around... somewhere. It seems that they had learnt to trust your judgment, though it only meant that you had better not betray that trust. You aren't confident that your fledgling powers would allow you to survive should they actually decide to make a concerted effort to kill you.

    "Oh, I don't know. It could be the ghosts of the ancient Cretans. What do you think, Officer Zhang?" You turn to the Easterner standing next to you.

    The Concordiat diplomat was named Zhang Su, an officer of the fifth grade in their bureaucracy. As they had grades from one to ten, it appeared that Zhang was smack-dab in the middle of the hierarchy. He wore a rich silk robe in the tradition of his country, dyed a brilliant gold. It shimmered as he moved, almost as if it were made of real gold threads. His skin was tanned, a feature of a man that has spent many years in travel, and he bore the height and grace that separated the Easterners of the Concordiat from the stockier Southerners of the Shinar Empire.

    "I don't really believe in ghosts, Sir Camna." When he spoke, he spoke in fluent, if slightly accented Shinari. "The feeling of being spied on is a feeling every human gets. However, if there is one... well, I think I'd like to meet it." Zhang gave a tight smile. "At any rate, I believe there is something we need to discuss, Sir Camna."

    "Ah yes." winked Charmion. "Business dealings. I love trade with the Concordiat, Crete thrives on it."

    You pat the governor on the back and grin. "I'll make sure you get a good deal out of this, governor. Just keep things quiet. This is for the prince." Charmion gives you a knowing nod, and escorts you and Zhang into a more private room.

    ***

    "I can guess why you are here." Again with that tight, stretched smile from Zhang. "You are here on the Prince's orders. You have become well known amongst certain circles for that little game you played with his clerk, Sir Camna." You could read a slight tension, held in check by plenty of confidence. Zhang feels slightly different from any other person you had encountered, but you are not sure why.

    "Perhaps I am here on his orders. Perhaps I am here for more. Do you know what the Prince wants?"

    Zhang shrugs. "I will be straightforward. The royal family of Tamur is agitating for war. They want to reclaim their ancestral lands that the Empire has stolen. We have managed to restrain them thus far to little skirmishes, but they have centuries worth of vengeance that will not be satiated."

    "That is very informative. Many in the Empire treat Tamur as nothing more than a Concordiat puppet. Do you mean to say that they are a raging beast held back only by the firm but caring leash from the east?"

    Another tight smile. "You know your foreign affairs, Sir Camna. True, things aren't as simple as I have put it, but it is not as simple as Tamur being a puppet for our intentions either. You should know that."

    You do know that King Tamur XXX, the thirtieth of the royal Tamur line to ascend to the throne, was a young king fervently believing that his destiny was to reclaim all of the lands his ancestors once held. It wouldn't be a surprise for such a young and ardent believer to lack pragmatism. He was like Runikylos, except with far less brains and charisma.

    "Kill King Tamur?" you suggest, half jokingly. Zhang only shakes his head, though you sense he appreciates your suggestion. "He's been lucky. My superiors think differently, but it looks like invasion will happen anyway. It won't hurt us."

    "That begs the question, though, of why you are here. Are you telling us this in hopes of bloodying your vassal's nose in a failed war?" There was a flicker of wariness in his eyes, for just an instant.

    "Very astute, Sir Camna. Perhaps. Perhaps for more."

    You had to do it; he was hiding something, and you had to push him to find out what it was.

    "You can tell me, Officer. I'm sure we can work out something... beneficial to us. My prince has authorized me to make any offers I can to benefit both the Empire and the Concordiat." That was strictly not a lie, but you would make sure any offers made would also benefit you.

    "What I want is something pretty simple. Have you heard of the Labyrinth of Knossos?"

    You had heard of it in legends, and in your memories you have seen the Emperor - you - rescuing a maiden from a bull-headed giant and slaying it with a slash of your sword. You nod your head. "I thought they were just stories."

    "It's a real construct, Sir Camna. The Concordiat has an interest in its history, and would like to explore it. Of course, the Empire is unlikely to give us permission, so..."

    "You know where it is." It was not a question, but a statement of fact.

    "Yes, that is why I'm here." He was indeed here for the Labyrinth. You smile at Zhang. "What can I do for you, then?"

    "We need you to open the door."

    "That's an amazingly simple request, Zhang. Why do you need me? I am sure there are plenty of other doormen willing to help you."

    "It has to be you, Sir Camna, and no others. You are special, are you not?" Zhang's tight smile splits to show his teeth, widening into an ugly grin.

    You struggle to keep your nerve. If it was the Labyrinth of legends, associated with the First Emperor, there was probably only one reason why they'd need you. They knew of your powers, and somehow that was needed to open the door. Your mind starts whirling. Did they know from your Watchers? Did they have an extensive spy network of their own? Could Runikylos have sold you out to them? After all, this was his idea, though your Watchers haven't reported anything on him having any contact with the Concordiat. In fact, from what you knew, few people in the Empire had any contact with the Concordiat, beyond that of the usual trade links, illegal or otherwise. You keep your composure and give Zhang a winning smile.

    "What happens if I don't?"

    "Then you don't, and we go on our separate ways. We have other ways we can try. If you do, then matters in Tamur will be resolved to your pleasure. I think that is incentive enough." said Zhang matter-of-factly, and that was that.

    ***

    A. You accept the offer. This is why you were here, were you not?
    1. You ask for the invasion to be halted. This would improve your standing in Runikylos's eyes.
    2. You want Tamur. Obtaining kingship by conquest is an old tradition, and you know just the right puppet for such a purpose. Without Concordiat support, Tamur would fall easily once it started a fight.
    3. You want something else (Propose your own reasonable option).

    B. You reject the offer, going your separate ways. This was a bit too risky for your tastes. Best not to do anything strange for now, until your Watchers can find out more about the Concordiat's intentions.

    C. Your Watchers are close by. You attack Zhang to bring him in for interrogation and find out what he knows. You can dispose of him quietly once you are satisfied. The currents around Crete can be treacherous at times.
     
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  6. treave Arcane Patron

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    The character was designed separately from Dio Brando, but the recent release of the anime inspired me to tweak it a little so that it was a blatant 'homage'.
     
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  7. m4davis Scholar

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    did it just say ean struck down the minotaur and saved a maiden in the process well I think we can be confident enough to say at the very least those memories are fake
    A 1
     
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  8. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Uhhh. I've no idea what to ask for at the moment. I definitely want something power related. Also suspect this guy is an immortal, or perhaps an immortal engineered human? I don't know. I wish we chose A in the last vote, a bit of political pull with the prince will do nothing to prepare us for the Eanocalypse.
     
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  9. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Zhang's a Gieloth. M:
     
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  10. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    Might be a Gieloth or a Immortal. Nevertheless I wouldn't want to deal with them when we have no clue about what we are giving away.

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  11. Azira Arcane Patron

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    For the moment, I'm voting
    A1
    but I'm no more set than I can be swayed by arguments. The way I see it though, we're here to negotiate with the concordiat, and we want to increase our standing in Runi's eyes. We don't want the seat for Dio himself, that would be out of character. And we're also interested in finding out what Zhang wants to do with the labyrinth..

    We need more knowledge. Go along with this plan. So far, it holds no obvious dangers, and we know our two watcher friends are nearby.
     
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  12. Esquilax Arcane

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    Azira is right, he's probably a Gieloth. There's the fact that his presence felt different, but also that he's from China. He's of a low to moderate power level, judging from his grade in the Concordiat bureaucracy, and he serves more powerful Gieloth. Also, remember that he offered us a deal, pretty much like almost every single Gieloth has in the past: this means that even if we might be getting dicked over, we know that he'll be fulfilling his end of the bargain. The Labyrinth was a product of Gieloth knowledge, so it's no surprise that Zhang, who is probably a Gieloth, would be interested in it:

    I have a feeling that Zhang is trying to fuck us over on the fine print. Remember that he promised to halt attacks coming from Tamur, but he made no such promise on behalf of the Concordiat. Anyways, I find the beginning of the update pretty disconcerting:

    Very suspicious - Zeus apparently doomed the Cretans to undeath (could just be someone posing as Zeus), yet not a single trace of the inhabitants remains on the entire island, not a single body. Nothing. So the bodies haven't disappeared, they're just somewhere else. And I believe that must have been sealed away within the Labyrinth. Maybe opening the door is a terrible idea and it'll unleash a horde of undead on all of us. I don't know, but this all sounds really suspicious.

    Not quite sure yet, but hopefully this gives you guys something to think about.
     
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  13. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Ooh, a horde of undead! Wow, in a society where immortals are a thing of legends, and the Terasphagos haven't been spotted in centuries, maybe a supernatural attack is just the thing to strengthen the internal cohesion of the Empire? You'd need a tangible and preferrably external threat, and if this possible attack by undead abominations can be spun in just the right manner (I'm looking at Diogenes here), it can be seen as an act of aggression from the Concordiat.

    All the "Eans" out there would have a vested interest in proving themselves. What better way than to deal with that threat?

    This is too delicious. Your theory has steeled me in my vote, Esquilax. :salute:
     
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  14. oscar Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Hm anyone pick up on him on the tall Easterners remark? East Asians aren't historically known for their towering height. Perhaps the Gieloth have fiddled with their subjects DNA or somesuch.
     
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    It's now or never ! We shan't trust them.
     
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  16. treave Arcane Patron

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    Oh, no, Dio wouldn't be King of Tamur. Sorry if it was too vague, but he'd make his soldier buddy the King, if everything pans out, i.e. new kingdom joining the Empire, more friends in high places, and all that.
     
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  17. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    He could be an Immortal too. Only thing we are sure is that his presence is different from a human.
     
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  18. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    Baltikan A3 :salute:
     
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  19. Baltika9 Arcane

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    treave: I wonder what would have happened to the Empire if, instead of creating the Watchers we chose the Praetorian Guard?

    And made Sek Empress?

    Edit: those memories show Ean literally and physically saving a maiden from the Minotaur's lair, right?

    Edit 2: unless there is something we didn't know about our dear friend Theseus.
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  20. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    This is really important. For the first time our memories are false, and it does not seem triggered by anything Zhang did in particular. Which means the memories which were 'activated' by the first Watcher was flawed. Which means they may not be Ean's innate memories coming back after all, but memories which were planted by the weird-smelling orb itself - which, my theory would be, works like one of the memory orbs in PS:T, except it was clearly made by someone other than Ean but knowing him intimately that reconstructed events. That is, Sekhenun - the only person who would know enough to make such an orb of Ean's memories, but get it wrong about the Labyrinth? I'm not saying it's certain, I'm saying it's worth making sure we don't think we're Ean 100% after this.

    Now, the current deal. What do they want out of the Labyrinth? We don't know. Is the Tamur threat real? Maybe it isn't, and the offer is more like, get scared and do what we want, or we will actively engineer a Tamur invasion. Not a great fan of these guys, and also not a great fan of the fact that everyone and their mother seem to know about our real identity. Which means, I think, our immediate goal should be to build up our power base so that when the inevitable reveal comes we aren't too dependent on the Prince or the Watchers for our life and for our schemes. If we go for A, we should go for A2, or some kind of A3 where our first concern should be what we, not the empire, get out of it.

    Otherwise, I think it has to be B. We might succeed with C and get some information, but I doubt the Concordiat will swallow our story, and with Tamur already itching to go to war, and the Concordiat clearly aware of the problems in the Empire regarding the Eans, it's calling for a full scale invasion.
     
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  21. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Bros, I think Dio is a newly seeded agent of the masters and not a shard of Ean. Wall-of-text incoming.
    As I said previously, the amount of Ean's pieces springing up seems suspicious to me and I have difficulty believing he "shattered" into so many.
    But, let me start from the beginning.
    This, right here, outlines one of the Masters' contingency plans: spam Immortals. And right now, we are seeing people with supernatural, Immortal-like powers. No voices, you say?

    Apparently no problem.


    Now, where could they have gotten the memories from? Well, Ean was guesting with them for an unknown while, no tellimg what else they did. Then, there's this.
    Considering that we have never been in direct verbal contact with any masters before this leaves two possibilities: they repurposed the local Immortals as observers
    Or Ean got mindscanned, which would also explain the memories, even the inconsistencies.

    Finally, for this:
    There is this:
    And this:
    Note the wording an Ean, not the Ean. Implies that we will become a usurper of the title, but not The First Emperor.

    So, why now, three thousand years later?
    This could plausibly be that seeding.

    Also, since Holy Terra is now a test world, they may want to observe it and Ean and are putting eyes and ears in place.
    Also, there is the matter of the chapter's title (Pretenders to the Empire) and the fact that treave said that this is our reintroduction to the Empire, and this would make Dio the intro character.

    And, again, I am also thinking that correlating the different "shards" to an aspect of Ean may be erroneus symbolism (coming from me, that says a lot).
     
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  22. Esquilax Arcane

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    TOME, I initially thought that Zhang was immortal, but we've already met two other immortals - our soldier buddy and Aodh. The update implies that his presence was different than either of theirs. treave, can you confirm this?

    How do you come to that conclusion? A supernatural attack would only make things worse and make the cults even more dangerous and a bigger threat to stability. Uniting to face a common threat made sense at the founding of the Empire, but that was when there was only one Emperor - now there are dozens of people claiming to be Ean, so who exactly would people unite under? It would make the conflict worse, not better because you'd just have each of the Eans claiming preaching the end of days and calling for their supporters to take over the Empire.

    My question here is: why does he want the Labyrinth open and what does it get him in return? I've relied on the assumption that Zhang is a Gieloth, which I think is reasonable. I also believe that Zhang requires an immortal to enter the Labyrinth because it was tampered with somehow and they can no longer interface with it, sort of like Vajra. The sparse clues we have from Zhang are these:

    I think Zhang is here to talk to ghosts. He wants knowledge within the Labyrinth, and if there are undead there, he might be able to learn it from them. To what end, I don't know, but I think it relates back to Zeus and the first Emperor in some way. treave, does the Imperial Cult have any teachings about Athena, Marduk and Zeus? If so, could we reasonably ask Zhang if his interest in history has anything to do with the First Emperor or Zeus? It's a leading question, so I think we might be able to dig something up.

    Anyways, we need to start thinking nuts-and-bolts here. All this theorizing is nice, but it doesn't help us in the immediate circumstances. We're in a bit of a dilemma: our goal is to create stability for the Empire so that we can deal with our enemies without worrying about external problems, but Zhang kind of has our balls in a vice because he's holding Tamur's leash. We can't really deal with an invasion right now.

    Also keep in mind that Zhang said that if we refuse him, the Concordiat will try to find different ways of accessing the Labyrinth, so that means that this thing is really important to them. If we make a deal, we should ask for as much as we can reasonably get. If we're too unreasonable, he'll tell us to fuck off and start looking for alternatives, though.

    I also think that we need to start developing our power base. Our relationship with our Watchers is already uneasy, and I would hate having to rely on them exclusively. Having our soldier buddy take Tamur would allow us to build up our resources, but more importantly, it would put someone competent and trustworthy at the Concordiat's border so that we can keep an eye on them. Of course, if things go to shit with the cults in the north, that might not matter.

    In any case, I'm voting A2 for now, but I'm willing to flop to B based on some decent arguments. C is fucking crazy.

    A3: Ask Zhang to use his connections to arrange a marriage between the Hero of Korinthos and a suitable princess of Tamur, ostensibly in order to avoid a war, but in reality to allow us to find out what the Concordiat is up to
     
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  23. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Esquilax, I think A1 is the right call. It will prove Dio in RK's eyes completely through competence, ability and, if we put the right spin on the story (and since we're talking about Dio here, of course we will), loyalty.
    And integrating into the Imperial family (treave, we're still scheduled to marry his sister, right?), that we already started, will benefit both Dio and the Empire, and, by extension, Ean.

    Of course A2 has the advantage of shutting Tamur up once and for all. However, it also adds anoter region to the Empire than needs to be regulated and policed.

    But I personally want to milk him for information. Storyfaggotry demands it.
     
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  25. treave Arcane Patron

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    It's been relegated to academic knowledge (history of myths and legends) in the Empire, not religious. There are worshippers here and there, but they are a very minor lot whose prayers go unanswered every second of their lives. The link of the Labyrinth with King Minos and Zeus is obvious though, and asking him about it will only tell you what you already know.
     
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