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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Kipeci Magister

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    B, for the reasons that Esquilax, Lambchop19, and others have articulated. We don't want to bind ourselves in with this mess too deeply by taking option A, taking option C just makes enemies when we really don't need to be racking up yet more of them, and option D seems a bit... foolish. We simply don't need to break down a can of divine whoop-ass on this lady for the same reasoning in option C, and it would draw down attention from some dangerous folks if we did.

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    For which party?
     
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  2. Ah, great. More chopping off of our body parts then?
     
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  3. Esquilax Arcane

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    I think Lambchop19 is on the right track. D would probably involve cutting off part of ourselves and feeding it to the Lady to prove that we really are the First Emperor. She would literally "taste our divinity" so to speak. Might be a great way to gain support and knowledge before we move on. After all, Dagrun and Dio are both Successors as well, so it's only a matter of time until they start feeling the hunger as well. Might be better to work quickly and gain the allegiance of the Successors in Brittania-Gallia before moving on, perhaps?

    D might be smarter than I first gave it credit for. Will think about it a bit more.
     
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  4. treave Arcane Patron

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    The hunger is already there, but building slowly. Feeling peckish even after having eaten, that sort of thing.
     
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  5. Baltika9 Arcane

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    We may do that, yes. And we may also, by this act, antagonize Joan. Think about it: she's been building this cult, nurturing it and now Ean crawls out of the woodwork and hijacks it. And also
    Whatever that "slightly unpleasant" act is, we can't afford it right now.

    If we cut of another arm, we've wasted time and opportunities. Not to add that declaring our presence to her will guarantee that someone else will find out.

    Well, to be fair, if Dio isn't striking, then he is simply moving the pieces where he wants them to be. Which is why we should be taking him down ASAP: we created a monster. Same drive as Ean, almost same power as Ean, same tenacity as Ean but his morality is the complete opposite of Ean's. What's worse, the more time we give him to build power, the stronger he will become.
    Edit: we also gave him an extremely powerful personality cult, so time also gives him more "allies."
     
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  6. Baltika9 Arcane

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    I just remembered this:
    We can't afford to waste time and power on Joan. Dio will soon notice his own hunger and put two and two together, so if we want to have a good shot at taking him out, we'd better do it right now.
     
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  7. Esquilax Arcane

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    That's pretty much why I flopped to D. If Dio and the royal family are aware that Ean has woken up (and Dio's hunger is an indication that Ean has risen from his slumber) then we pretty much have no anonymity anyways. Based on that, the prudent thing is to then show our true identity to Joan so that we have a power base to work with so that we can quickly get down to business.
     
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  8. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Then that is where we disagree.
    Right now, the symptoms are not exactly noticeable and that still gives us some time. I consider it worth the risk to push now and take out Dio quickly(since he's the second-most, if no the, most dangerous antagonist here), before he has time to understand what's going on and fully prepare for a confrontation with Ean (if that is really the Sekblade, we'll be right fucked if we give him time. She/it knows pretty much all there is to know about Ean: his character, strengths, weaknesses and the specifics of his nature. And, no, taking her words about wanting to eat Ean in any other way is wishful thinking).

    As such, we need to be in top shape.
     
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  9. Esquilax Arcane

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    Well, in the interest of consistency with our previous choice, I'll flop back to B. If we picked A in the previous choice and had Dario and Tenebrae with us, we could have proved that we were the Emperor without maiming ourselves, but I guess we ought to get down to business quickly.
     
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  10. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    How? Ask them to vouch for us? A briliant stratagem - the Lady's ensuing laughter would be the perfect opportunity to escape.

    With the possessed Naram out there, we have little time for dicking around. And only D will provide the necessary swiftness.
     
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  11. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    B
     
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  12. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    As to why Dio haven't moved to crush Skane and Joan, Naram could control all immortals, including those in Concordia. And if Dio isn't serving Naram then he has his hands full trying to defend the rest of the Empire.
     
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  13. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    treave:

    One meta-ish question. How far in terms of power are we behind Athena? How much should we eat if we wish to get on equal footing with her? And how much to regain our initial advantage?
     
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  14. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Tally so far:
    B- 8
    Azira, Tigranes, Baltika9, Stygian Lurker, Lambchop19, m4davis, Kipeci, TOME
    D- 7
    Smashing Axe, Storyfag, Arpad, Esquilax, Omicron, GreyViper, Oscar
     
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  15. treave Arcane Patron

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    It's a bit hard to quantify the differences in power without me resorting to Dragonball-style power levels but let's say if you are a 5, and the Lady's a 2, Athena's a 7, on a scale of 1-10. The gap between you and her is not as far as the gap between you and most of your spawn, but in a straight-up brawl you would be overpowered.

    Eating an entire city would put you on her level, if you go forth and devour a kingdom or two you can probably stomp your way to the finale of the chapter. Something about being powered by millions of dead people.

    Also, let's lock in the choice at B, I'll have the update out later today.
     
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  16. treave Arcane Patron

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    Chapter 8.3: Meeting the Band

    Joan agreed readily enough to your proposal, that you would provide information on the Yellowstreaks to her. You told her that depending on the circumstances, you might also be able to convince them to throw in with her side. The Lady of the Martyrs now considered you an ally. She told you that she had found out that the Yellowstreaks were planning to revive the First Emperor, information she had gathered from an Imperial spy one of her associates captured. You widen your eyes in disbelief that the First Emperor could still be around, and express your great surprise to Joan. After your conversation was over, she sent you on your way with a travelling pack, but no money. It seems that both the Martyrs and the ones who woke you tend to overlook some things. As it turns out, you had to pick some pockets to buy your way on the carriage to your destination.

    ***

    The hideout was an unassuming house, and when you were let in, you saw that it was crowded within. There were about twenty of them, all of them having been granted powers from your body. They looked to be in their twenties or thirties.

    “You made it, Your Majesty.” Dario was standing at your side, a smile on his face. “Well, of course you would.”

    “Of course I would,” you agreed. “You needn’t have bothered waking me if I couldn’t manage to get to a meeting.”

    “So this is our progenitor, Dario?” A bearish man with a face full of beard had spoken gruffly. He reminded you of Gudersu, except he was much hairier.

    “That’s right, Dalton. The First Emperor, Ean. Your Majesty, this is Malton. Now that Meyes is… gone, he’s the one nominally in charge.”

    “Pleased to meet you, Ean. I’m the leader of our little band here.” He held out one big furry hand – you stare at it for a while before realizing you were supposed to shake it, and you did so. “Meyes wanted to wake you up so you could stop all this fighting that’s been going on. What are you going to do about it?”

    He was distrustful of you, his tone harsh. You refuse to let yourself be intimidated, however, and give him a confident look in return. The ride here had given you some time to digest the situation. It had been unfortunately interrupted by a troll while crossing a bridge.

    That had been a pretty tough fight – you decided their skin could almost be as tough as the Minotaur itself.

    “I plan to gather information before I act. Hastiness has led to the downfall of many men. I have Meyes’s memories within me, but I would seek other opinions. What is your opinion of the current situation?” you ask Dalton. He turns his head from side to side, looking at the men and women of his band. It seems that he was unsure. “Well…” he started. “Things are really bad. I mean, we help out people, warn them of incoming attacks, help them evacuate. That sort of thing. If I knew how to solve it, we wouldn’t need to trouble you now would we, Your Highness?”

    “If I may?” Dario interjected, sensing that Dalton was getting agitated. You nod at him.

    “What we have here are many little conflicts, but no real war. Bands of armed men raid and pillage across the borders with impunity, and the soldiers posture threateningly while it all goes on. This situation could go on almost indefinitely with no devastating loss of life, but the effect on the kingdoms would still be substantial. Our band has operated thus far as a neutral party, helping out the citizens affected by the fighting, but our resources are limited.”

    “Yeah, that’s it.” muttered Dalton.

    “To help more people, we need more resources. We cannot rely on just twenty Successors to save the world. My Emperor, you changed the world by establishing an empire of many peoples. We do not aspire to such heights, but we do need to obtain support from the common folk to do so.”

    Murmurs of agreement spread throughout the room. Dario looked around the room, making sure to make eye contact with each of his comrades.

    “Now that you have awoken, and are on our side, I have a proposal to make. It is now time for us to make a stand. Too long have we been called cowards for not picking a side and shying away from a fight. Our detractors know not our courage in rescuing the people from their power struggles, and think that just because we do not fight, we cannot fight. We can. The soldiers that loot the land are nothing more than glorified bandits. Instead of leading people away from them, leaving most of their possessions behind to be stolen, why should we not fight them off?”

    “We are all here because we don’t want to be on any side. This is idiocy.” Tenebrae spoke up, unhappy with Dario’s words. He shook his head and sighed.

    “We won’t be on anyone’s side. This is my proposal; that we form a mercenary troop.”

    “That just makes us on the side of the highest bidder, no?” you say.

    “True, but who is to say what bid we deem the most valuable to us? This way, we can intervene wherever we wish. None of us may have any experience, but your military exploits are legendary, my Emperor. I believe your guidance will elevate us to the heights necessary to succeed.” He paused for a while, and then continued. “Furthermore, should war actually break out… we will at least be able to make a difference.”

    You fix your eyes on his. “How sure are you that war will happen?”

    “It is but a matter of time. Each of the three powers has built up their military forces to such a great extent that the people are already calling for them to use those soldiers to their full potential and secure their borders, or to bring those secessionists and traitors back into the fold. Once they decide that the situation at the border is untenable, they will invade… and I would not bet on King Dagrun of Skane being sane enough to wait until then. It is practically a miracle that he has not tried anything for so many years.”

    You turn to Dalton, whose face seemed even grimmer than before, scrunched up in a frown. “What do you think, then? You’re the leader.”

    “I think Dario is right, we have to prepare ourselves for the coming storm. Besides I got a score that needs settling with someone in the Empire.”

    You look around the room again. “Anyone has a differing opinion?”

    Again, Tenebrae spoke up. “I still disagree, father. Meyes did not form this group to fight. We’re to help people, not to take up swords. Not all of us have the stomach for fighting, nor do we have the skill to fight. I agree with the sentiment that we should no longer champion our cause alone, and to rope in others to help us, but battle is out of the question.”

    You glance at the people who were nodding their heads, agreeing with Tenebrae. There were about seven of them, a slight minority in the group.

    “I would have you decide, my Emperor,” murmured Dario. “I believe Meyes would have wanted the same. Your word will be law, as it once was.”

    ***

    Make-your-own-plan.

    The proposal must be worded in a way that can be conveyed clearly in a single, short speech given by Ean.
     
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  17. Esquilax Arcane

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    Huh, I honestly don't find any of these options particularly compelling.

    A plays to our strengths and would likely result in an alliance with the Lady in the long-term hopefully, but the fact that Dario suggested it has increased my distrust of him:

    He was wrong about the Lady, then when we bought him time, he was satisfied. Now this suggestion of hiring ourselves out as mercenaries - who is really benefiting from this? Maybe he's the Imperial spy mentioned in the update. Fuck, maybe I've lost it here, but still, I find his behavior kind of questionable.

    As for B, not as dumb as it sounds. Teaching our progeny peace will also teach them how to deal with their hunger, plus a lot of our guys aren't exactly soldier material: Tenebrae was terrified when those soldiers approached us, she isn't going to work well in a combat situation. As I have mentioned before, perhaps absorbing our successors could be a way for us to increase our own powers without suffering from corruption. treave, this is a meta question, but are there ways to increase our power without eating people or getting corrupted further?

    C cuts through the bullshit - quite frankly, both the Yellowstreaks and the Martyrs are ineffectual, and it seems prudent to strike while the iron is hot and go after one of the other players before war's begun. We'd lack a power base, but we'd certainly have the initiative on our side.

    Voting C for now, though I'm willing to flop to A or B if I hear some good arguments. If B could result in a bunch of benevolent Successors merging with us, I could definitely be up for it.
     
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  18. treave Arcane Patron

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    You will be able to absorb your spawn to increase your power with no corruption issues.
     
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  19. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    The options are pretty crappy. Pick B and you know the hapless Dalton will agree with Dario that you're a little bit spineless. Combined with Dario's status as a witness when you woke up, and he can easily spread unhelpful rumours amongst the successors. We would need to follow B up with some kind of opportunity to truly showcase our Ean-ness, and who knows if the plot will provide one. Pick A, and we risk falling for whatever Dario's got planned, though it's also questionable whether we should be so worried about a minor successor like Dario that we throw everything away with C.

    Well look, I think we need to be a little less dependent on each option each update and agree on a long-term goal for Ean amongst us.
    • Do we want him to build up a territorial power base and engage in some good old Late Roman civil war to reclaim the Empire? (E.g. this might end with us choosing A, or C to seek another opportunity closer to Ankida.)
    • Do we want him to stay incognito as long as possible and find out information and former allies? (E.g. this might involve B or C.)
    • Do we want him to gain personal power as fast as possible by swallowing his successors? (E.g. has to be A or B here.)
    What do we want Ean to do and become in the coming days?
     
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  20. Baltika9 Arcane

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    How about this: we combine B and C. Tell them to go on with their support networks and "sit tight, bros, I gotta do sum shit, arite?"

    Also, take Dario with us. Something tells me he's Aodh. And we could use Aodh, even as a power-up.

    Edit: flopped to C-Esquilax.
     
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  21. GreyViper Erudite

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    Modified B , with Ean feasting on Dario. I say we get this out of the way, because you know you want know what he knows and more.:troll:

    A is nice and would get us right into game. But does Ean have the ability to install a geas on everybody in the group to be only loyal to Ean?
    That would go double to Dario, hes to smart for his own good.
    Also quite funny how they want to herald the return of Ean, yet thats not what we are after.
    treave have there been more strange stuff happening, besides trolls under bridges. Say like children disappearing, because right now the main threat seem to be the bandits and soldiers?
     
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  22. Baltika9 Arcane

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    The more I think about it, the more I dislike it. While it won't corrupt Ean directly, it's still a fucked-up thing to do to someone against their will. We'll basically be consigning them to a fate worse than death, not simply killing them, but annihilating their body and slowly merging with their conscience.

    Also, treave, can you tell if Ean got any perks from his three-thousand years of torture, like an unbreakable will or an extremely disciplined and unreadable mind? Just curious, really.

    Edit: This is important, any news from the Gieloth National News?

    P.S.: while doing a backup of the updates, I noticed these following stats; 349 pages and 142,325 words and we're not nearly done yet. Suck it, Dostoevsky.
     
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  23. oscar Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Bet you're wishing you picked D last time now.

    I'm toying between A and C at the moment. Bumming around in Britain as a mercenary seems pretty beneath us, but we do need to get acquainted with the times and modern military tactics.
     
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  24. Kipeci Magister

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    I'm thinking we should go for A right now. The military realm is our strong point, and we have whipped up decent armies out of even the most spineless of conscripts. Additionally, it would be a good idea to have more of an idea of what we're facing. Ean's military assumptions are currently quite outdated, so he needs a better idea of what works and what doesn't. Once he has that, we can build off from there and maybe make something of our mercenary might.

    Although... I'm not sure why we need to make this choice so badly. Could we establish a more peaceful aid branch for the hippie Successors as a group under our protection in addition to riding around as a mercenary band with the ones more willing/able to fight?
     
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  25. treave Arcane Patron

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    Well, that's an element of compromise Ean would offer should he pick A, and as noted B means you do not take up much of a direct role unless you choose to, which allows you to move about more freely. Tigranes's breakdown is a good guide, except that ingame I haven't provided a motivation for eating your spawn yet, and that'll occur regardless of whether you abandon this bunch or not.

    Option C means something else will pop up, as hinted.

    With regards to the Gieloth, there is no information. It's as if they're all gone. There's some fairy abductions, but it's not an epidemic. As you move closer to Ankida you'll find that there are less fey and more Sumerian demons running about.
     
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