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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    BCC - because the masters will just reset the universe if we win in a fight with the league and we'd still be delivering the winners of the game to them by going there. The only way to beat them is not to play their game by their rules. duh.

    And for the record, I still think this is retarded.

    edit: but it's less retarded than wasting time with the league and delivering to the masters want they want - a victor in the game - but without a sun bomb to destroy them with.
     
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  2. Esquilax Arcane

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    A war with the Star League is possible for victory... but I think we would need to use the Sun bomb as a bluff to force the Masters into negotation with us. As Lambchop19 said, using the Jupiter bomb won't work because it doesn't work as a bluff.

    The real problem with the war plan is that I don't think that the Jupiter bomb works well with a direct war on the Star League. Once we make it through, we don't really have much teeth in a negotiation. The Masters will know that our bomb isn't powerful enough to wipe everything out, so they might be willing to call our bluff. And if they do call it and we use the bomb, it's quite possible that they'll still survive and go for a reset. Having a real dimension-wiping nuke is a better bet if it comes down to coercing them.

    I think the Jupiter bomb is best used with a surrender option. It's easier to sneak through, then once the Masters and the Star League are all in one place and congratulating the "winners" we unleash hell.
     
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  3. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Forget what I said previously, then. Voting in order of preference: ACC/BCC>ABB>everything else.
     
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  4. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    PS - the codex picks a genius as a player character to compensate for their mass-retardation and then, like true retards, ignore the plan of said genius character for one of their own choosing. Oh well, codex gonna:
    :kingcomrade:
     
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  5. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    Also, I'll point out that even if we lose in BCC, meeting the masters and talking to them for infodump can give us the edge after we die and time rewinds.
     
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  6. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Uh, you mean like we've been doing all the time while playing Senya: saving Sargone in clearly retarded odds, the LOL-thal episode, Shulgi, boarding the Belesis, taking on the Dwaggon Emprah by ourselves.

    Dude, Senya always relied on his cojones and bravado as much as his intelligence.
     
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  7. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    No, none of those were totally against Senya's outlined (or hinted at) plans. Maybe slightly out of character for a pragmatist. Maybe some of them were unexpected, but in the case of the ramming option, he clearly hinted to the captain he thought it a viable option.

    This is different. He outlined a perfectly good plan, and everyone ignored it for "maximum glory, let's try to win in a straight fight with fucking everyone cause we're playing this lp like a power fantasy rather than a game we can lose if we try to have our cake and eat it too". That said, if we're going to ignore his plan, BCC is probably the best way to go.
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    After TOME's flop, it is now:

    1. A - 7, B - 6

    2. A - 2, B - 4, C - 6, D - 1

    3. A - 1, B - 6, C - 6

    It's a tie in no.3, so I'd go ACB. But ScubaV said he'd flop from BCC to ABB if ACB wins, so...

    1. A - 8, B - 5

    2. A - 2, B - 5, C - 5, D - 1

    3. A - 1, B - 7, C - 5

    Now it's a tie in no.2. So I put in Baltika's option of going ABB.

    1. A - 8, B - 5

    2. A - 2, B - 6, C - 4, D - 1

    3. A - 1, B - 8, C - 4

    And so there we have it. ABB wins.

    It's a real pity A only got one vote in the end. Having the Council shit their pants when you troll them with your betrayal, causing the rather limited AI of the automated defense systems to reset and think that there is no victor yet and begin shooting at every ship in sight, would have been quite awesome. Then you sneak through in the chaos. :lol:
     
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  9. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    *sigh* Would have been glorious.
     
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    Well, at least I'll get to see Ean pull this little trick on the Council:

    :troll:
     
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  11. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    I'm going to laugh when all this blows up in our faces and the Masters kill cruelly and painfully murder everyone except Senya and Rei and strap them in to some mind control computer so they can create a great idea under their control after the ghost singularity occurs and the great idea dies.
     
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  12. Baltika9 Arcane

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    :butthurt:
    Although...
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    Btw, even if we win against the Masters somehow, I think picking A will mean the Empire's forces lose while we're gone. Fighting a war on two fronts anyone?
     
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    The God and the Youth

    Strings of light criss-cross Jupiter’s low orbit. The construction of the bomb is entering its second stage; once all of the compactor discs are ready, they will commence the shrinking of the gas giant into a super-dense sphere no more than two hundred and fifty metres across, nearly six hundred thousand times smaller than its original size. This will then be enclosed in a well-armoured casing able to withstand a bombardment that would shatter our own moon. One thousand black hole generators would be enslaved to the main bomb in the core; along with providing enough energy to generate a gravity shield, they would also act as a trigger for the bomb – when the generators were simultaneously overloaded, Jupiter would turn into a supermassive black hole with a diameter measured in light years. The process would also release energy on the level of an extremely powerful hypernova; sufficient to sterilize whatever was left of the galaxy on the fringes of the newly born black hole.

    “It’s rather inspiring, isn’t it?” The Tree-Emperor floats over to where I am, watching over the greatest construction project in humanity’s history from an observation balcony on the Sword of Ean.

    “Yes, I suppose building something that could wipe out a hundred thousand light years’ worth of stars is a very inspiring feat.” I say. He shakes his head. “I meant everyone working together, like this. Back in my time we would not even have been able to conceive of such things.” Ean laughs. “I couldn’t imagine how big the universe was until I could see it for myself.”

    “Yet the Masters could switch it off like you would a light bulb.”

    “Yes, there is that. If there’s anything I’ve learned, it’s that there is always something greater around the corner. That doesn’t mean that we won’t win, of course. Even the underdog has its day,” grins Ean confidently. “Our courage and ingenuity should be sufficient.”

    “Will it? Have you been to their dimension before?”

    “No, but I have received an invitation once. Some man drinking tea in a garden offered it to me.”

    “Sounds familiar. I may have met someone similar.” I say, as I watch Erec struggling with Sekhenun’s laboratory machinery. “Huh, it looks like your goddess has got him tamed.”

    “Ah, well…” He hesitates a bit. “She has that effect on most people. Erec and his family seem to be nice, but…”

    I chuckle “The whole Hail to our God-Emperor antic gets a bit tiresome, doesn’t it?”

    “I’ve had royal guards following me everywhere before. It is always tiresome, especially when things go sour and you end up having to protect them instead.”

    There is a loud crash from the hallways below as Erec drops the stuff he is carrying. For the first time, I’m treated to the sight of him cringing submissively as Sekhenun begins doling out the verbal abuse. I turn to the Tree-Emperor with a grin. “Does she do that with you?”

    He gives me a piercing stare with his ageless eyes and replies, “If you’re going to start talking about that, you might want to know that I have heard plenty of stories about you and your princess.”

    “Right, let’s not.”

    “Agreed.”

    After a few moments of peaceful silence, I resume the conversation. “By the way, how are you finding that book on space combat that I lent you?”

    “The treatise was interesting, to say the least. Adapting one’s mind to think in the three dimensional structure of space as a battlefield is not as easy as it seems. I’m afraid I will never be a very good pilot. I prefer the feeling of my feet on the ground as I run at my enemies.”

    “But?”

    Ean laughs heartily. “Yes, there is a but. But I think I can imagine the flow of battle, now that I have fully understood the weapons involved. The fundamental nature of warfare has not yet changed. Misdirection, organization, location; all of these are still as important as they were thousands of years ago. I look forward to testing my skills against the Star League.”

    “Perfect. As of now, I’m giving you the job of directing our military strategy against the League.”

    “Adrahasis should have more experience, given his parentage and his specialization. I think he would be more qualified. For that matter, you have more experience than I do.” He seems surprised, his lips curled in a bemused smile as he protests his appointment half-heartedly. I knew that I had him, however, and pressed on.

    “As a tactician, Adrahasis is brilliant, but the Star League knows of his reputation and has ways to keep him in check. He is best deployed as a smoke screen for our real strategy. I know a thing or two about tactics, but I will be needed on the field and cannot afford to spend too much time commanding. We have many competent officers, but few have the ability to coordinate an engagement on the scale that I expect. This will not be an easy war.”

    “I don’t recall commanding anything more than a hundred thousand men. This is quite different.”

    “Don’t be humble with me. I’ve read your epic. You were known not only for physical ability on the battlefield, but also your cunning. Unless Shulgi was really embellishing matters, I think you will have no problems adapting to space warfare.”

    “I doubt he’d be so kind as to praise me more than I deserve,” nods Ean. In a matter of seconds his manner has turned rather more authoritative as he turns his mind to the problem before him. “Very well, we will give this a try. I will need aides to help me break down the information, and you will need to get me involved on fleet organization as soon as possible. Your modern war is a bit more structured than the ones I am used to."

    “Excellent. I’ll get it done. Oh, and I still need to make up an official rank for you… I was thinking Grand Marshal of the Galactic Core Invasion Force…”


    -CHAPTER END-
     
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  16. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    Hmmm. The Tactician. A God of War, then. Child to another God of War whom Ean is familiar with? Son of Ares?

    Also, another of Storyfag's Stupid Questions(tm)(R)(c):

    What lured me into this thread was the promise of enslaving nations using necromancy. What combination of choices would have led us down that path? I recall one of Sekhenun's sisters animating the corpses of her egyptian army, can the Immortals do similar things? Are there any Immortals in the League or the Empire who have this power?
     
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  17. treave Arcane Patron

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    You guys never went anywhere near that, unfortunately, being too engrossed with kicking ass and taking names (or at least the prospect of it). Charging headlong into stuff all the time. Probably would have been easier to access as Shulgi.

    Yeah, there are those who can raise the dead in varying forms of decay, or lack of it, but generally it isn't all that important in an era of space battles because particle beams and nukes tend to leave you with nothing to necromantize.
     
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    Cunning? Ean? Bwahaha, we're so screwed. :lol:
     
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    Yes, actually. Now Ean's "I owe them a new ship" comment makes sense. Thankfully, Ares doesn't seem to be around anymore.
     
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    Interlude: Preparations

    Report on Current Status of Galactic Core Invasion Force

    Federation Fleets

    1st Fleet:
    3 super heavy battleships
    150 battleships
    2000 cruisers
    7500 combat frames

    2nd Fleet:
    1 super heavy battleship
    100 battleships
    1400 cruisers
    6000 combat frames

    3rd Fleet:
    1 asteroid battle-station
    1 super heavy battleship
    10 battleships
    500 cruisers
    5000 combat frames

    4th Fleet:
    1 super heavy battleship
    80 battleships
    1650 cruisers
    4500 combat frames

    5th Fleet:
    1 super heavy battleship
    70 battleships
    1500 cruisers
    5000 combat frames

    6th Fleet:
    1 super heavy battleship
    110 battleships
    1250 cruisers
    5500 combat frames

    7th Fleet:
    1 super heavy battleship
    90 battleships
    1100 cruisers
    4300 combat frames

    Imperial Legions

    Dragon’s Guard:
    815 super heavy battleships
    10931 battleships
    54106 cruisers

    Raven’s Lance:
    500 super heavy battleships
    10500 battleships
    68500 cruisers

    Devourer’s Hammer:
    1939 super heavy battleships
    27710 battleships
    33362 cruisers

    Emperor’s Sword:
    2350 super heavy battleships
    21580 battleships
    46000 cruisers

    Serpent’s Wing:
    700 super heavy battleships
    13500 battleships
    55000 cruisers

    Wolf’s Shield:
    731 super heavy battleships
    9988 battleships
    51319 cruisers

    ***

    A little over more than four hundred thousand ships are at our disposal. Although we don't have the time and resources to refit the Imperial fleets, the Federation vessels have almost all been installed with mass-production black hole generators, allowing them to use standard issue black hole cannons and long range wormhole jumps. I flick the information away and check the report about the Star League. The first strategy meeting will be held rather soon; I should familiarize myself with the contents as soon as possible.

    ***

    Report on Star League Armada (Estimates)

    Sector Armada Alpha:
    1000 super heavy battleships
    20000 battleships
    80000 cruisers
    2550000 drones

    Sector Armada Beta:
    400 super heavy battleships
    10000 battleships
    100000 cruisers
    3000000 drones

    Sector Armada Gamma:
    600 super heavy battleships
    8500 battleships
    95000 cruisers
    2300000 drones

    Sector Armada Delta:
    2000 super heavy battleships
    25000 battleships
    35000 cruisers
    1000000 drones

    Expeditionary Fleet Epsilon:
    10 super heavy battleships
    3000 battleships
    10000 cruisers
    50000 combat frames


    I reach the end of the page and scroll back up again. It looks like we are about evenly matched in numbers – it was a good thing that Adrasteia volunteered to retake the ships of the Devourer’s Hammer and Wolf’s Shield Legions. I notice a blinking icon at the bottom of the screen.

    “You have a message from the Chief, Master,” prompts Yua. “I think it’s about your CF.”

    The Engineering Chief? What about it? Curious, I open the message.

    Dear Hoshikawa,

    It looks like you have improved by leaps and bounds since the last time we worked together. This frame, Anhur-Shu, is truly a worthy successor to the Anhur line. The engineers have done an excellent job of tuning it and installing the weapons systems that we designed, but we can do better.

    And we have.

    After a bit of rebalancing, we can install two more systems on Anhur-Shu and make an upgrade to one system.

    So, what shall it be?

    Regards,
    The Chief

    ...

    Sweet.

    ***

    I. Tactical Warp System.Allows me to use wormholes to warp around the battlefield at will.
    Upgrade: Improved Tactical Warp System -The warp rings have been redesigned so that they no longer need to detach. The energy consumption has also been lowered, allowing for quicker warps with less cooldown time.

    II. Devourer Shield. Creates mini wormholes to swallow incoming attacks.
    Upgrade: Devourer Shield II - The system can now defend from up to 65536 simultaneous attacks at once and redirect 10% of all enemy fire back at them.

    III. Ring Slaves. Remote drones that draw upon the black hole generator to power their weaponry. Also allows you to warp your own fire through the rings for tactical considerations.
    Upgrade: Ring Familiars - The rings are now semi-sentient, imitating your reaction speed and instincts to improve their survivability on the battlefield. They can serve to multiply the power of particle or laser attacks by an order of magnitude, or be used to teleport black hole attacks.

    IV. Variable Black Hole Cannon. An improvement on the original, the yield can be tuned from frame-busting to planet-busting levels. At lower yields, multiple black holes can be fired at once.
    Upgrade: Annihilation Cannon - Collides a mirror pair of matter and anti-matter black holes with the target to create a burst of destructive energy that is strong enough to annihilate a star system if left uncontrolled.

    V. Gravitic Drill. The spinning of the drill will create a gravity vortex that will move even battleships. At close range it can punch through the thickest armour.
    Upgrade: Super Gravitic Drills - Now you have two of them. The range and strength of the vortex is increased. The drills can now also be used as remote drones. They still punch through everything.

    VI. Homing Lasers. The use of gravity lenses to bend light, allowing the lasers to follow their target if the first shots miss. Nigh unavoidable once locked on.
    Upgrade: Homing Laser Array - Each laser now has enough firepower to punch through a normal cruiser-class shield. Concentrating their firepower on a single target will allow you to burn a hole through a moon in one shot.

    VII. Reactive Energy Armour. Uses the immense generator output to constantly create a layer of ablative energy. It can be supercharged and ejected outwards to burn the enemy, or contained and used for a ramming attack.
    Upgrade: Reactive Energy Conversion - The frame's armour has now been installed with energy absorbers. This allows the absorption of heat and kinetic energy from nearby explosions or beam attacks into the reactive energy layer.

    VIII. Gravity Wings. Wing-like projections that can be manipulated to immobilize an enemy or serve as an extra layer of defense. Also increases agility and maneuverability.
    Upgrade: Gravity Wings IX - Up to nine gravity wings can be projected, each increasing defense, agility and maneuverability more.

    IX. Degeneration Field. Using the frame’s sensors and my ability, I can ‘kill’ the random motion and bonds between atoms within an area of effect of roughly visual radius. Anything caught within will slow down drastically and begin to crumble into their constituent atoms.
    Upgrade: Degeneration Lance - The ability can now be focused on a single target. This magnifies the speed of degeneration and the extent of freezing.
     
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    IV - the Annihilator Cannon upgrade is too good to pass up.
    I - I believe we should continue with the upgrades. And long-range mobility is what we really need.

    What do we know of the Star League's drones?
     
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  22. treave Arcane Patron

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    Clarification, you get to pick two new systems, and only one upgrade to an existing system which can include the two new ones you picked.

    As for the drones, they're like little missile carrying missiles that have the maneuverability and durability of a space fighter.
     
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    Ah, so that's how it is.
    New systems:
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    He is - just because we happened to play him in such a way that we made insane and reckless decisions all the time doesn't mean he wasn't designed as a leader/tactician type. Basically, until the earthquake at Tjaru, we played Ean in a far more calculated manner than we did afterwards - sure, we took big risks (i.e. Sekhenun's temple) but we were certainly a lot more careful about instead of being all "JUMP INTO THE RIFT!!!!" So yeah, I have no doubt that Ean has what it takes to develop some great strategy here.

    As for the systems, I find the Annihilator Cannon upgrade tempting, but it'll do us more good on the other side of the gateway than it will here. Even if we use the Jupiter bomb, we'll have yet another nasty trick up our sleeve with a super-weapon like this.

    It seems to me that Anhur-Shu's biggest weakness is that it's something of a glass cannon; fast and dangerous as hell, but if we get hit, we're in serious trouble. So we've got to really shore up that weakness, which makes the Devourer Shield a no-brainer (however, since it uses wormholes, is it vulnerable to Master fuckery?).

    treave, does III mean that we can actually teleport black holes to a place of our choosing once we've fired it?

    I'm going to go with Storyfag's picks for now:

    VII
    III
    Upgrade:
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    I think that the hardest thing to deal with from the Star League (other than potential Master trickery) will be the drones. Our forces, particularly the ones from the Empire, are heavily reliant upon big battleships, and millions of quick, fast, maneuverable missiles could inflict a death of a thousand cuts upon our slower, heavier forces. The Devourer Shield II sounds like the remedy for this, but it would mean forgoing the glorious Annihilator Cannon.

    Using Anhur-Shu as a meatshield and then reflecting the missiles being launched at us back at the enemy would be pretty goddamn effective. But we still have to deal with the Masters later and I find its usefulness against them a bit more questionable.
     
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