Magic the Gathering Arena

[spectre]

It's about time we got some interesting gobbo mechanics like this.
The nod to Die By the Sword is intentional?

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Thac0]

new, green dive down?

Old green dive down. I used to run a playset in my kitchentable magic decks when we still played the game IRL. It was a random mash up of everything we owned from the first Theros block and the Tarkir expansions, with a core set or two thrown in. Its really fun to play with and pretty good, although I am not sure which decks that do run green want it currently.

 

[new fucking guy]

naya feather
that green pile with giant growths and the GG dude

 

[spectre]

if those cunts could get back on track with re-implementing Aether Revolt, we could have had the good and proper Blossoming Defence in game ages ago.
Not sure about Feather, the problem in that deck doesn't seem to be protection, cause it's got plenty of sources of that (Fight as One and God's Willing).
It's a bit like standard has gone so fast poor feather was left back in the dirt. The tricolor version will probably also be fucked beyond repair once Shocklands rotate out.

The real deal breaker I think is Hexproof from Guile vs. Indestructible from Heroic Intervention. The difference is in rarity, Guile will continue being a decent budget option,
but most green decks will want some form boardwipe insurance, it being their Achilles' G-Spot.

 

[new fucking guy]

ah yes cube, the respite from your usual constructed magic

Spoiler

I died this turn

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[new fucking guy]

I did 6-3

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Chainweb Aracnir saving me like someone just flashed the Batman signal in the sky. What a MAGNIFICENT beast.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

just bot drafted ixalan for the first time and I was able to pick up 9 *(NINE)* rares I've never had bots pass me so many

AND I got a sweet dinosaur deck ROAR. ALSO speaking of dinos:

he's back! ROAAARRR

 

[Thac0]

just bot drafted ixalan for the first time and I was able to pick up 9 *(NINE)* rares I've never had bots pass me so many

AND I got a sweet dinosaur deck ROAR. ALSO speaking of dinos:

he's back! ROAAARRR

The bots give a lot less of a fuck about raredrafting in non standard sets. Feels a little bit
by WotC but you gotta take what you can get.

Nice that it is back.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

The bots give a lot less of a fuck about raredrafting in non standard sets. Feels a little bit
by WotC but you gotta take what you can get.

Nice that it is back.

fine by me I didn't start playing till GRN so I'll just go ahead and raredraft the shit out of this set

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

casual historic queue consists mostly of white artifact decks. Look how they butchered my boy... they took cool artifact theme affiliated with blue&friends and made it racist

I think it's based on what you're playing, since I've been playing a bunch of Izzet phoenix and I get matched up against a lot of mono black and Gruul aggro. Can't even remember the last time I've faced wh*te, though the mono black decks make me wish I had Justice Strike to deal with the goddamn Phyrexian Obliterators.

The nod to Die By the Sword is intentional?

That is pretty interesting. Prolly not worth it for goblin decks, but interesting regardless.

just bot drafted ixalan for the first time and I was able to pick up 9 *(NINE)* rares I've never had bots pass me so many

Oh shit. I probably should do that. Still need to do at least one ranked draft this month to get my welfare bronze limited pack and since I'm playing more historic now that'd be kinda nice to raredraft like a motherfucker.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

man i'm not even doing that great in ixalan draft but i'm having so much fun slamming these stupid dinos onto the battlefield lmao

dinos vs pirates has gotta be one of the coolest themes ever. merfolk decks seem OP tho I keep getting reck'd by those assholes

 

[Thac0]

I have missed how incredibly low powered this format was. People unironically resolving 2RR 3/4 vanilla creatures on curve and winning the game with 3UU 3/2 flying hexproof. Very nice change coming from Ikoria. Almost feels like an Ikoria Draft deck could kill an Ixalan block constructed deck.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

You ever have those days where you feel like you're being fucked so hard by fate in this piece of shit game that you are worried about going outside in case a piano falls on your head?

It's not a piece of shit game, I'm just upset and passionate about it. I'm a salty little BITCH right now.

 

[spectre]

piece of shit game.

Cogradulations, the itsy bitsy spider is now officially an MtGA player.

 

[Snorkack]

So, I managed to get to Plat 2 with an almost vanilla pregenerated deck (Tarantulos-Eduardo-Sanchez , if you need a few easy wins to soothe your boobs, use the Izzet League deck). Now I start to face a lot of well-crafted decks it seems and I struggle to climb further. Especially planewalkers and powerful enchantments/artifacts are now the bane of my existence.

But boy, I swear, there is one kind of son-of-a-bitch players that I wish colon cancer upon, and those are the Cauldron Familiar / Witch Oven spammers. POS one-trick pony cheesers. Just had a match where such a fag mulliganed down to 3 cards. Apparently he still didn't draw an oven along with his familiar, so he conceded at the beginning of his turn 2. Coward!

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

But boy, I swear, there is one kind of son-of-a-bitch players that I wish colon cancer upon, and those are the Cauldron Familiar / Witch Oven spammers. POS one-trick pony cheesers. Just had a match where such a fag mulliganed down to 3 cards. Apparently he still didn't draw an oven along with his familiar, so he conceded at the beginning of his turn 2. Coward!

yeah you'll probably be seeing a lot of that deck especially in BO3 since it's one of the strongest and it's miserable to play against.

you can press shift+enter to auto pass through all of their triggers BUT it's a bit risky since you'll also pass the ability to counter spells/react at instant speed

 

[spectre]

It is considered one of the top tiers at the moment, I mean the GBR version with Bolo's Citadel, Breadcrubs and Gelded Geese, so yeah, expect to see it a lot.
It's got a few rather threatening plays it can do (Mayhem Devil really shits on weenie aggro and a surprise Claim your Firstborn than bake it into pies is always fun).
It can be made into a rather legit deck, with more than one way to seal the game out of nowhere, but the biggest problem is this shit is even grindier than Shamrock Adventures
and all those eot triggers can give you ptsd.

You should be able to make it concede on turn 0, just mulligan for Leyline of the Void if you want a nuclear option.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

it's really that bullshit green draw engine that annoys the crap out of me. this one uses trail of crumbs and they get to draw like 4 cards per turn. not only is it frustrating watching them get so much card advantage, but you literally need to click "resolve" for every damn trigger it just rubs it in agghhh

of course adventures has that innwall keeper or whatever it's called to draw a ton per turn

 

[Jason Liang]

Green card draw engines have always been bullshit

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

I have missed how incredibly low powered this format was. People unironically resolving 2RR 3/4 vanilla creatures on curve and winning the game with 3UU 3/2 flying hexproof. Very nice change coming from Ikoria. Almost feels like an Ikoria Draft deck could kill an Ixalan block constructed deck.

Shit seems weird. Out of curiosity I changed my arclight phoenix deck so I could play it in standard (Nothing major, marginally worse manabase by losing the checklands and swapping Chart a Course for shit like that red merchant) and standard decks honest to god feel way more powerful than historic decks. It's the weirdest thing, when I play it in historic casual it feels like there's more wiggle room. I try the same deck in standard casual and I'm dead on board by turn 2.

I assume it's probably more of a case of people playing historic for fun, so they're going for less balls-out power. But since it counts for daily wins/quest progress/rank if you're in ranked, I dunno.

 

[Thac0]

I have missed how incredibly low powered this format was. People unironically resolving 2RR 3/4 vanilla creatures on curve and winning the game with 3UU 3/2 flying hexproof. Very nice change coming from Ikoria. Almost feels like an Ikoria Draft deck could kill an Ixalan block constructed deck.

Shit seems weird. Out of curiosity I changed my arclight phoenix deck so I could play it in standard (Nothing major, marginally worse manabase by losing the checklands and swapping Chart a Course for shit like that red merchant) and standard decks honest to god feel way more powerful than historic decks. It's the weirdest thing, when I play it in historic casual it feels like there's more wiggle room. I try the same deck in standard casual and I'm dead on board by turn 2.

I assume it's probably more of a case of people playing historic for fun, so they're going for less balls-out power. But since it counts for daily wins/quest progress/rank if you're in ranked, I dunno.

I feel like the huge difference is that Historic is a MTGA only format. Standard has tons of tournament grinders and spikes who play the game irl and on MTGO all day long to win real price money. People copy the tournament and pro decks 1to1 and even in the very low ranks stuff gets really competitive, because everyone is on an excellent deck, even if they play it badly.

Historic has barely any tournaments and the only ones playing it a lot are streamer, who are not bad at the game but not on the same level as someone who grinded tournaments for years. So the decks people are copying are much more tame, and you get a more chill environment.

Just a theory tho, might also be that people primarily play Historic to relieve their favourite Dominaria decks that rotated out and arent interested in going full hardcore T1.