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Magic the Gathering Arena
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Multi-headed Cow
Arcane
Yeah, 'cause it's technically a copy of the card from a different "Set". So you didn't have it in that printing so they gave 'em to you. Hopefully they'll let us tear up duplicates for gems/vault progress/something one day.and what to make of this?
As in I receive new copies of already owned cards in some cases?
Getting more copies of a card than what is used in the deck is probably due to the "Color challenge" shit, where new players beat up some AI decks and get new cards slotted in, replacing other cards. You can find that in the play menu if you want to check it out, but existing players already have everything checkmarked and unlocked. I dunno if they gave us the common/uncommon wildcards, but since it's WotC they probably stiffed us there too, but oh well.
As for the mythics:
Realm Cloaked Giant
Terror of the Peaks
Kiora Bests the Sea God
Brazen Borrower
Massacre Worm
Elder Gargaroth
Kroxa Titan of Death's Hunger
Baneslayer Angel
Embercleave
Polukranos Unchained
Generic-Giant-Spider
Guest
Jesus fucking Christ.
First pull in We Wuz Kangz set and it's a Liliana.
First pull in We Wuz Kangz set and it's a Liliana.
I am getting forward with my Naya Spider Combo deck. Incredibly fun to play due to so many small combos.
Deck
4 Terror of the Peaks (M21) 164
4 Sporeweb Weaver (M21) 208
4 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244
10 Plains (ANB) 115
3 Mountain (WAR) 261
4 Paradise Druid (WAR) 171
2 Banishing Light (THB) 4
4 Selfless Savior (M21) 36
1 Arasta of the Endless Web (THB) 165
4 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115
1 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate (IKO) 175
4 Luminous Broodmoth (IKO) 21
2 Questing Beast (ELD) 171
2 Prison Realm (WAR) 26
4 Elspeth Conquers Death (THB) 13
4 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259
3 Forest (M20) 280
Sideboard
2 Storm's Wrath (THB) 157
4 Devout Decree (M20) 13
2 Shatter the Sky (THB) 37
2 Questing Beast (ELD) 171
4 Shifting Ceratops (M20) 194
1 Arasta of the Endless Web (THB) 165
I still have to do a lot of Sideboard tweaking and clean up the landbase but playing for Selfless Saviour + Luminous Broodmoth boards or the usual 3 part Terror of the Peaks + Sporeweb + Savior combo is super nice.
Bonecrusher is just randomly in there to smoothen the curve, works very fine however. I think I could use some deck filtering like Adventurous Impulse, sadly all options are kinda shit.
Deck
4 Terror of the Peaks (M21) 164
4 Sporeweb Weaver (M21) 208
4 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244
10 Plains (ANB) 115
3 Mountain (WAR) 261
4 Paradise Druid (WAR) 171
2 Banishing Light (THB) 4
4 Selfless Savior (M21) 36
1 Arasta of the Endless Web (THB) 165
4 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115
1 Vivien, Monsters' Advocate (IKO) 175
4 Luminous Broodmoth (IKO) 21
2 Questing Beast (ELD) 171
2 Prison Realm (WAR) 26
4 Elspeth Conquers Death (THB) 13
4 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259
3 Forest (M20) 280
Sideboard
2 Storm's Wrath (THB) 157
4 Devout Decree (M20) 13
2 Shatter the Sky (THB) 37
2 Questing Beast (ELD) 171
4 Shifting Ceratops (M20) 194
1 Arasta of the Endless Web (THB) 165
I still have to do a lot of Sideboard tweaking and clean up the landbase but playing for Selfless Saviour + Luminous Broodmoth boards or the usual 3 part Terror of the Peaks + Sporeweb + Savior combo is super nice.
Bonecrusher is just randomly in there to smoothen the curve, works very fine however. I think I could use some deck filtering like Adventurous Impulse, sadly all options are kinda shit.
Multi-headed Cow
Arcane
Zendikar coming on September 17th apparently. All the more reason for me to debate over what to burn my gold on. Seriously tempted to crack some Amonkhet packs but I've been resisting, and I may hold off until it (Hopefully) ends up in quick draft so I can play for 5k gold rather than 10k. They haven't set a date for when (If at all) it'll come to quick draft, but M21 quick draft ends on the 21st and they don't have a replacement listed yet so fingers crossed.
Lots of good shit to wildcard though. But I have to admit that Collected Company is going to give me a fucking seizure.
Dawkinsfan69
Dumbfuck!
- play standard 2021
- bo1
- vs clover adventure (wooho-woohoo-woohoo what fun
- plays clover on curve and 3 innkeepers
- somehow manage to remove all 3 fucking innkeepers that he apparently had in top 10 cards of his deck
- topdecks 2 (TWO) brazen borrower and the fucking goldilocks, despite countering first brazen borrower, bounces my entire board and makes 6 2/2 bear tokens and otks me
- literally nut drew after nut drawing
this is why im not playing amonktoehtehtnaonftnea bo1 shit draft
why no standard 2021 bo3
why favor bo1 over bo3 in every fucking mode arena devs?
fuck you wotc
eat my shdit askd dick
Generic-Giant-Spider
Guest
I swear to god it's an unwritten rule that mono blue decks need to take five minutes each turn.
NIGGUH YOU ON 3 MANA, PLAY A FUCKING OPT OR SUM SHIT LMAO
NIGGUH YOU ON 3 MANA, PLAY A FUCKING OPT OR SUM SHIT LMAO
Multi-headed Cow
Arcane
Finally a non-wh*te double after dogs dogs.
Edit: Nice. Playing some extra Jumpstart before they take it away and I got an elf pack with a craterhoof in it finally. 4 previous elf packs with allosaurus AND getting a mythic ICR that was an allosaurus dupe (40 gems) which was the only Jumpstart mythic I had a 4-of and I finally fucking got a hoof. Probably should play elfball at some point now.
Edit 2: THANK FUCKING CHRIST, a Basri pack. Having 4 out of 5 blinged M21 lands was driving me nuts. I think I can stop playing Jumpstart now, since even though I'm missing some cards that won't irritate me as much as that one fucking land did since I can use wildcards to fill gaps as needed. Only Jumpstart land I'm missing is the "Plus one" Forest, and I don't really care about that one. I wouldn't care about the M21 Plains except when I got the other 4 and kinda liked them, then it was making me twitch I didn't have the last one.
Edit 3: And one weird thing I noticed as I'm looking over my Jumpstart cards, I've got 4 Sin Prodders but no Hellriders, and they only come in a twofer pack. So I've gotten 4 prodders entirely from ICRs.
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spectre
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Re: Golgari Sac
I think Demonic Pact is going to dissapoint you. Waiting until the 5th turn upkeep to actually do something can be a long time with consistent turn 4 transmogrify kills.
Not going to argue the long-term value, but I think it's not something you want as a 4x, and you need more stuff to survive the early game.
Problem being, the most logical solutions (Last Reckoning, Carnarium) doesn't go too well with your creature-based value engines,
perhaps you could incorporate Kaervek to off a bunch of obnoxious tokens? Trespasser's Curse could also slow this down.
What you want is a third, maybe even fourth vraska (she goes along with everything - remove stuff for chevill, eat problematic permanents, draw card for Jolrael).
Jolrael also needs a bit more love: a barren moor or a tranquil thicket or two. Perhaps Agruel's Blood Fast would be good replacement to some of the treacherous blessings to give you a trickle every turn?
Re: Force Exchange
So, the plan is to give the other guy a wishclaw, then one with the stars it, then you exhaust your pact and swap it?
Brilliant. Perfect Jank right there.
if playing 4x Role Reversal, I'd try to get more use out of it. Say, kill a guy with Saproling Infestation, swap the token for another thing.
Or, give them a bunch of chromatic amulets or traveller's amulets for wishclaw. A food token would be ideal perhaps, but I can't find anything good for this role.
Also, see above, you need to give yourself time. Don't waste time for bolo lolo, add boardwipes. Acceleration (Mind Stone?) should also be good for you.
I think Demonic Pact is going to dissapoint you. Waiting until the 5th turn upkeep to actually do something can be a long time with consistent turn 4 transmogrify kills.
Not going to argue the long-term value, but I think it's not something you want as a 4x, and you need more stuff to survive the early game.
Problem being, the most logical solutions (Last Reckoning, Carnarium) doesn't go too well with your creature-based value engines,
perhaps you could incorporate Kaervek to off a bunch of obnoxious tokens? Trespasser's Curse could also slow this down.
What you want is a third, maybe even fourth vraska (she goes along with everything - remove stuff for chevill, eat problematic permanents, draw card for Jolrael).
Jolrael also needs a bit more love: a barren moor or a tranquil thicket or two. Perhaps Agruel's Blood Fast would be good replacement to some of the treacherous blessings to give you a trickle every turn?
Re: Force Exchange
So, the plan is to give the other guy a wishclaw, then one with the stars it, then you exhaust your pact and swap it?
Brilliant. Perfect Jank right there.
if playing 4x Role Reversal, I'd try to get more use out of it. Say, kill a guy with Saproling Infestation, swap the token for another thing.
Or, give them a bunch of chromatic amulets or traveller's amulets for wishclaw. A food token would be ideal perhaps, but I can't find anything good for this role.
Also, see above, you need to give yourself time. Don't waste time for bolo lolo, add boardwipes. Acceleration (Mind Stone?) should also be good for you.
hello friend
Arcane
500 free gold in store today
Is Jumpstart likely to ever come back? It was fun.
Is Jumpstart likely to ever come back? It was fun.
Multi-headed Cow
Arcane
Out of curiosity I checked, and they did stiff us on the "Color challenge" card styles, so I would assume they stiffed us on the wildcard rewards too. And since all the challenges are already marked as completed, you can't play them to get 'em. Oh well.
Multi-headed Cow
Arcane
spectre
Arcane
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Spoiler this shit ffs, you're scaring lukaszek
Yeah, looks like another legit combo for historic. Between this and Transmogrify delivering consistent turn 4 kills, red aggro is going to have a very bad time.
There's even a convenient in-color tutor for this and you can protect the pieces with Arseling of Life's Bounty.
On the other hand, this only stops damage, so you still need Yid of the Trials or Plat Angel for a fullproof setup vs. Citadel life loss and empty library wins.
Yeah, looks like another legit combo for historic. Between this and Transmogrify delivering consistent turn 4 kills, red aggro is going to have a very bad time.
There's even a convenient in-color tutor for this and you can protect the pieces with Arseling of Life's Bounty.
On the other hand, this only stops damage, so you still need Yid of the Trials or Plat Angel for a fullproof setup vs. Citadel life loss and empty library wins.
Generic-Giant-Spider
Guest
That's a nice card you have there.
Be a shame if someone were to Thoughtseize it.
Be a shame if someone were to Thoughtseize it.
Multi-headed Cow
Arcane
Nice, went 7-2 with this draft. Figured I'd get one more M21 draft in before I cracked all my packs (Since I want that bronze limited welfare pack at the end of the month) and things went nice. Started off drafting Azorius but then I was getting tons of good red cards so I shifted gears. Somewhat surprisingly both Burn Bright and Unleashed Fury got some solid work done. I almost cut them but I figured with the goblin wizards, ogres, and weirds I'd probably squeeze enough juice out of 'em. Never once drew Dub in 9 matches though.
spectre
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Well, the most hateful of the hate stuff will be white. Shame, innit?
Blue hate is rather timid with the current cardpool imo, and black has fewer "just fuck you and the horse you rode on" cards that you'd expect.
Though the two curses from Amununu should be at least worthy of consideration. Slap a bunch of trespassers, bounce all their shit with Whelming Wave and let them have fun replaying.
So, a few artifacts for your consideration:
Depending on your needs, Tormod's Crypt may be much faster than Narset for graveyard hate. Other possible choices for this role like Sentinel Totem, Scribbling Claws, Silent Gravestone and Soul-Guide Lantern. I think you should be fine with Grafdigger and Lantern / Crypt.
Damping Sphere is uncommon and a very specific piece of hate. Mostly hits stuff that plays many cheap things each turn but can also slow down certain types of ramp. God-Pharaoh's Statue is a bit more effective, but also costs a lot more.
Ratchet Bomb clears tokens of all kinds rather nicely. Also a great utility vs. low curve decks. In a similar vein, Perilous Vault is the Larry Nevin's Disk we get, but it's rather slow.
Sparkhunter Masticore is 'wanker hate, although it's rather weak. Just use Immoral Sun.
Bojuka Bog can be interesting with land tutors, as cheap and uncounterable as graveyard hate goes.
In blue, you have Crafty Cutpurse is there pretty much for one thing only - to turn a scapeshift into a gg wp.
If you're going UB in historic, you should probably consider adding red. Plenty of legitimate hate options there.
For starters, you get a bunch of nonbasic land hate - Alpine Moon, Blood Sun.
Blazing Volley can solve the "too many 1/1s on the field" problem
Harsh Mentor and Immolation Shaman hit a very narrow set of things, may become more interesting as the format develops.
Tibalt and Rampaging Ferocidon hate on lifegain.
You also have Shatterstorm to deal with artifact overpopulation, there's also a similar card destroying X artifacts.
Storm's Wrath and Hour of Devastation can help deal with 'wanker spam.
Form of the Dinosaur is a bit of a risky gimmick, but it stabilizes your life total (not an easy thing to achieve in UBR) and acts as removal every turn.
Blue hate is rather timid with the current cardpool imo, and black has fewer "just fuck you and the horse you rode on" cards that you'd expect.
Though the two curses from Amununu should be at least worthy of consideration. Slap a bunch of trespassers, bounce all their shit with Whelming Wave and let them have fun replaying.
So, a few artifacts for your consideration:
Depending on your needs, Tormod's Crypt may be much faster than Narset for graveyard hate. Other possible choices for this role like Sentinel Totem, Scribbling Claws, Silent Gravestone and Soul-Guide Lantern. I think you should be fine with Grafdigger and Lantern / Crypt.
Damping Sphere is uncommon and a very specific piece of hate. Mostly hits stuff that plays many cheap things each turn but can also slow down certain types of ramp. God-Pharaoh's Statue is a bit more effective, but also costs a lot more.
Ratchet Bomb clears tokens of all kinds rather nicely. Also a great utility vs. low curve decks. In a similar vein, Perilous Vault is the Larry Nevin's Disk we get, but it's rather slow.
Sparkhunter Masticore is 'wanker hate, although it's rather weak. Just use Immoral Sun.
Bojuka Bog can be interesting with land tutors, as cheap and uncounterable as graveyard hate goes.
In blue, you have Crafty Cutpurse is there pretty much for one thing only - to turn a scapeshift into a gg wp.
If you're going UB in historic, you should probably consider adding red. Plenty of legitimate hate options there.
For starters, you get a bunch of nonbasic land hate - Alpine Moon, Blood Sun.
Blazing Volley can solve the "too many 1/1s on the field" problem
Harsh Mentor and Immolation Shaman hit a very narrow set of things, may become more interesting as the format develops.
Tibalt and Rampaging Ferocidon hate on lifegain.
You also have Shatterstorm to deal with artifact overpopulation, there's also a similar card destroying X artifacts.
Storm's Wrath and Hour of Devastation can help deal with 'wanker spam.
Form of the Dinosaur is a bit of a risky gimmick, but it stabilizes your life total (not an easy thing to achieve in UBR) and acts as removal every turn.
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