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John Keel

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I'm having a really hard time motivating myself to play lately, Historic is stale as fuck and the garbo anthology for sure did not help :/
my pact gifting is facing mainly boring elves and various shadow decks. Few yorions.
Id say its better than it used to, at least while people have fun with new stuff
Yeah demonic pact is awesome, either with gift or just value in some mardu pile with doom foretold

anvi you really should get into Historic, Standard is sadly a 'waste' of wildcards
And there is Maze's End in histo for your beloved deck :D
 

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I'm having a really hard time motivating myself to play lately, Historic is stale as fuck and the garbo anthology for sure did not help :/
my pact gifting is facing mainly boring elves and various shadow decks. Few yorions.
Id say its better than it used to, at least while people have fun with new stuff
Yeah demonic pact is awesome, either with gift or just value in some mardu pile with doom foretold

anvi you really should get into Historic, Standard is sadly a 'waste' of wildcards
And there is Maze's End in histo for your beloved deck :D
That is tempting!
 

lukaszek

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Yeah demonic pact is awesome, either with gift or just value in some mardu pile with doom foretold
previously was fooling with role reversal, as it was the only way. Didn't have time to gear around trickster heist and they dropped kitty on us
 

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Cool. I am gonna give it a go, it will be nice to play my old decks! I've enjoyed standard, meta seems pretty fun at the moment. But the pool of decks is pretty small.
 

John Keel

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You do face quite a bit of top tier decks, but the variety of viable tiers 2 decks is huge

Best of 1 is unforgiving in historic though if you're trying to play janky shit without interaction, beware of Wx Auras/Gobbos !
 

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you cant be prepared for everything. For my black janks I always run 4x duress + 4x thought seize so I can disrupt combos early on.

As result Im usually losing to gobos but Im fine with it. Rock paper scissors and so on
 
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What the fuck happened? I sat down to do dailies and after having not faced rogues in probably a week or more I've had 5 rogue opponents in a row.
 

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35 rare and 16 mythic wc... I woder if at this point I should dump some into more not working historic artifact decks... at some point I am bound to have all the cool artifacts at least

EDIT: all those wc was to be spent on weird brawl decks but at this point im not sure its ever gonna happen. Might just dump them on scapeshifts and crucible since I have a bunch of weird terraforming decks in backlog
 
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Jason Liang

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35 rare and 16 mythic wc... I woder if at this point I should dump some into more not working historic artifact decks... at some point I am bound to have all the cool artifacts at least

EDIT: all those wc was to be spent on weird brawl decks but at this point im not sure its ever gonna happen. Might just dump them on scapeshifts and crucible since I have a bunch of weird terraforming decks in backlog
Have you tried Paradoxical Outcome? I have screenshots from back in the beta in the early parts of this thread.
 

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35 rare and 16 mythic wc... I woder if at this point I should dump some into more not working historic artifact decks... at some point I am bound to have all the cool artifacts at least

EDIT: all those wc was to be spent on weird brawl decks but at this point im not sure its ever gonna happen. Might just dump them on scapeshifts and crucible since I have a bunch of weird terraforming decks in backlog
Have you tried Paradoxical Outcome? I have screenshots from back in the beta in the early parts of this thread.
yeah lvd just made one of those that got added to my backlog:
Deck
4 Inspiring Statuary (AER) 160
3 Flood of Tears (M20) 59
2 Sai, Master Thopterist (M19) 69
4 Paradoxical Outcome (KLR) 61
4 Aether Spellbomb (JMP) 456
4 Mox Amber (DAR) 224
4 Ornithopter (M10) 216
4 Tormod's Crypt (M21) 241
4 Emry, Lurker of the Loch (ELD) 43
3 Vedalken Archmage (JMP) 187
4 Mind Stone (WTH) 153
14 Island (SLD) 102
4 Zhalfirin Void (DAR) 249
2 Aetherflux Reservoir (KLR) 217

for some reason though looking at scapeshift decklists sparks most joy for me. Turns up i have a few in my backlog, like
Companion
1 Lurrus of the Dream-Den (IKO) 226

Deck
8 Snow-Covered Island (KHM) 279
4 Thoughtseize (AKR) 127
8 Snow-Covered Forest (KHM) 285
4 Woodland Chasm (KHM) 274
4 Ice Tunnel (KHM) 262
4 Rimewood Falls (KHM) 266
4 Ruin Crab (ZNR) 75
3 Scapeshift (M19) 201
4 Cultivate (M21) 177
4 Explore (JMP) 393
4 Haze of Pollen (AKR) 193
1 Dead Weight (IKO) 83
4 Marit Lage's Slumber (MH1) 56
4 Iceberg Cancrix (MH1) 54
 

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I don't know if the support for Scapeshift is there in Historic currently, especially with Fields of the Dead banned. Green is my favorite color, so if there's a way to break Scapeshift, it would probably be on my radar. I already have a playset crafted back when they announced Historic was going to be 2:1 wildcarding.
 

John Keel

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Probably not, there are no real payoffs atm in historic for massive land sac/landfall.

Even for some dubious tier3 meme decks, there's not much to toy with :(

lukaszek I too am keeping all my WC for Historic brawl, but dem fuckers...
 

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that lvd flood of tears deck I pasted above is rock solid. Decided to burn a bunch of wildcards, its fun. Permanents enter and leave board all the time, some opponents dont even know what is going on, which pieces are important. Love it
 

John Keel

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yeah anything with flood of tears is fun to play, tho you don't have a tamyo for inf loop ?

No karn either :(
 

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that lvd flood of tears deck I pasted above is rock solid. Decided to burn a bunch of wildcards, its fun. Permanents enter and leave board all the time, some opponents dont even know what is going on, which pieces are important. Love it
I haven't played this version but it seems worse (i.e. slower) than the versions I ran back in the beta.
 

lukaszek

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This is the mess I'm having yuge fun with in Bo1

https://mtgarena.pro/decks/enigmatic-jb-3461c

toolbox dem bitches

autoloss to Ux tempo, UW control is tough AF, rest of the field is mostly cakewalk
please...


that lvd flood of tears deck I pasted above is rock solid. Decided to burn a bunch of wildcards, its fun. Permanents enter and leave board all the time, some opponents dont even know what is going on, which pieces are important. Love it
I haven't played this version but it seems worse (i.e. slower) than the versions I ran back in the beta.
i bet there are many ways to have fun with it.

I failed to find anything like it online, maybe any of you will be able to help me.
I wish to give in and run yorion. In dimir package around demonic pact, and bouncing it instead of passing over. Although I might pass it, maybe even splash red.
Main thing is to bouncing it though. Possibly use whelming wave as board wipe(sadly doesnt return yorion though)
 

John Keel

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Yorion is awesome, tho with demonic pact I would run it with WBx as a base, U doesn't offer much.

Biggest problem with Yorion is it's slow as fuck, so Oath of Kaya is pretty much mandatory to stabilize vs this creature-centric format.

I guess you could go for Esper yorion, plenty of potent tools to rebuy/bounce your pacts, as well as failsafes in the form of doomforetold, teferi etc...
 
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Jason Liang

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I failed to find anything like it online, maybe any of you will be able to help me.
I wish to give in and run yorion. In dimir package around demonic pact, and bouncing it instead of passing over. Although I might pass it, maybe even splash red.
Main thing is to bouncing it though. Possibly use whelming wave as board wipe(sadly doesnt return yorion though)
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/magic-the-gathering-arena.118164/page-7#post-5736284 and spectre 's version is just a few posts below mine.
 

lukaszek

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I failed to find anything like it online, maybe any of you will be able to help me.
I wish to give in and run yorion. In dimir package around demonic pact, and bouncing it instead of passing over. Although I might pass it, maybe even splash red.
Main thing is to bouncing it though. Possibly use whelming wave as board wipe(sadly doesnt return yorion though)
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/magic-the-gathering-arena.118164/page-7#post-5736284 and spectre 's version is just a few posts below mine.
stop quoting wrong parts, you gave me hope
 

lukaszek

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Yorion is awesome, tho with demonic pact I would run it with WBx as a base, U doesn't offer much.

Biggest problem with Yorion is it's slow as fuck, so Oath of Kaya is pretty much mandatory to stabilize vs this creature-centric format.

I guess you could go for Esper yorion, plenty of potent tools to rebuy/bounce your pacts, as well as failsafes in the form of doomforetold, teferi etc...
only gentlemen in here, please refrain from suggesting to run white in any deck thx
 

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