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Ahh awesome thanks! I didn't want to lose Diamond to test stuff out. I was playing unranked but people are so slow in there and they concede as soon as I play something powerful. Hard to get a good test. I tried Standard Event again today, I got 0 wins why my deck that got me to Diamond rank... So strange. I think it is just more focused on fast aggro decks and my main deck is tuned to be strong in longer games. I am gonna try some anti aggro fast decks to see if I can start winning that more often.
 

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Wow I didn't know it was today! Two cosmetics including a rare, 1000 gold, and 5 boosters is not bad. Season seems like once every month? I am gonna grind that each month for that little boost.
 

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It's a nice end-of-the-month boost. You have the time until season end in your profile tab.
There are severe diminishing returns, if that's your sole incentive to grind ranks, but it's a good idea to get to gold in limited to get the most out of it. Just find a format you enjoy playing. I am quite partial to Guilds of Ravnica and M20.
Oh, and you need at least platinum in either mode for the rare cosmetic.
 
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Ahh thanks I never looked at my profile before. The randomness of the game is pretty tiresome, I was kicking ass into Diamond rank just the past few days and this morning I went 1/4 with the exact same deck :/ The decks that beat me were ones I've beaten many times before too, they just got good draws and I got bad ones. Sucks. I'd love to see what decks people are playing in Mythic rank.
 

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Sounds like it's time for you to get into Bo3. It's quite refreshing when you can actually decide your mulligans based on what you're facing, rather than just lands and unload all the useless shit into the sideboard.
At one point it felt like I was stuck in an endless rock-paper-scissors gamble in Bo1 - I kept getting matched with fires, so I switched to flash, then suddenly I started getting matched with cat-oven, so I switched to aggro...
which got me paired vs. fires again for some hot deafening clarion lifelinked cavalier action....fuck you game.

I kept making excuses that I don't have time for Bo3, but then again, I don't really have patience for the shit as above.
 

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Sounds like it's time for you to get into Bo3. It's quite refreshing when you can actually decide your mulligans based on what you're facing, rather than just lands and unload all the useless shit into the sideboard.
At one point it felt like I was stuck in an endless rock-paper-scissors gamble in Bo1 - I kept getting matched with fires, so I switched to flash, then suddenly I started getting matched with cat-oven, so I switched to aggro...
which got me paired vs. fires again for some hot deafening clarion lifelinked cavalier action....fuck you game.

I kept making excuses that I don't have time for Bo3, but then again, I don't really have patience for the shit as above.
That's exactly what I think this game is, a big glorified Rock Paper Scissors. It is good though, I like it :p But it is totally rock paper scissors :D I played again today and won a lot, started climbing the ranks again. I guess a run of bad luck can happen. I will try some Bo3 though. It will be interesting to play without the element of surprise which I think some of my decks rely on.
 

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here is dimir im having some fun with
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1 Lazav, the Multifarious (GRN) 184
7 Island (ANA) 62
7 Swamp (ANA) 63
3 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
4 Thief of Sanity (GRN) 205
4 Duress (M19) 94
4 Drown in the Loch (ELD) 188
4 Thought Erasure (GRN) 206
4 Tyrant's Scorn (WAR) 225
2 Cry of the Carnarium (RNA) 70
2 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39
2 Lochmere Serpent (ELD) 195
1 Dream Eater (GRN) 38
2 Lazotep Plating (WAR) 59
4 Foulmire Knight (ELD) 90
4 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244
4 Watery Grave (GRN) 259
1 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241

while i have fun im torn about next direction with it. Ended up scrapping lotus fields as doing nothing on 3rd round was hard.
I keep thinking about bringing etrata in but i have hard time deciding what would need to go. I could replace 6 mana critters with 3 etratas but then there are plenty of return cards id need to bring in too.
Then there is ego that so far I was too lazy to bring in. Thinking is painful

Legions end ended up meh.
Probably need more castles to secure card draw
pteramanders are possibility too

That deck looks really good, Thief of Sanity is so powerful. Do you win a lot with that deck? I agree Legion's End is not very good, I much prefer Carnarium. I would love to try that deck but I lack a few key rares. I tried Dimir a few times with the counterspells version and the blood for bones version and I didn't like either of them. Yours looks much better.
 

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You can still have an element of surprise in Bo3 with transformative sideboard - just put in 3-4x Thief of Sanity and 4x History of Banalia into a creatureless WUB control for a little post-board mindfuck, after they did the right thing by siding out all the creature removal.
Sorry bud, you are now playing midrange. Creatureless decks with red can do the same with phoenixes and Legion Warlord / Krenko.
On the other hand, Bo3 punishes decks that only do one thing. Or can't do their thing without that one thing. Playing cavalcade? Meet enchantment removal and 4x carnarium package. You like UG flash? You'll love Shifting Ceratops and Veil of Summer,
so it might be a welcome respite if you're tired of those.

@above,
yeah, Legion's End was the hot shit when FotD was still around, or when you had to quickly deal with Aldente Vanguard. 0-2cmc is way too limiting in standard at sorcery speed, even if you can get card advantage at times, a lot of key aggro cards are outside its range.
Not a lot of good options otherwise, you basically need to go multicolor to find decent 2 cmc removal.

One card to try is Embodiment of Agonies, if you mix up the mana cost a little bit. You can also try braking Scheming Symmetry with crappy cards like Vicious Rumors (and incidentally ptermanders like it when you dump a lot of inst/sorc into your graveyard.
Other than this, I'm finding UB to be a bit of a disappointment post-rotation. It's as though all the other colors got the best toys to play with.
 

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I just noticed (and in quite a painful way) that veil of summer is not banned in Bo3 historic. I mean what the fuck? That card's too much for pioneer AND standard, but is suddenly fine in historic?
It's doubly moronic when they introduce a bunch of cards that make it possible to attempt a kosher mono black control build, and keep a card that entirely and utterly shits on this archetype.
Yeesh... and I was actually having fun in this mode, but it was nothing but scapeshit and nexus today. I got nothing against these two on principle, but they're just too good having access to the veil. No natural predators to keep them in check.
I still kicked some ass with GR aggro, going pelt collector, burning tree emissary, zur-taa goblin, domr, anarch of bolo is nuts, but the format being "go green or go home" is a fucking joke.
 

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Just like pioneer is being dominated by Fields of the Dead as well and will probably be getting the hammer later today

I think they want to keep historic as ban light as possible. If a card is banned in historic then it is truly worthless

Not sure what has happened to wotc's playtesting but both Veil and OUaT are so egregious that its inexplicable they saw print as they did.
 

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So I finally found a Pioneer-legal card that i really like:

Lunar Force
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It's not quite Standstill but close enough.

Too bad it doesn't actually combo with Tamiyo, Collector of Tales. Can someone help me break this? Is there another card like Assault Suit that prevents you from sacrificing your own permanents? The only things I can come up with so far are Sun Titan and blink effects.

Huh. If only there was a deck like Solidarity in modern or pioneer. This card completely trumps stack wars.

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yes but if you countered the triggered ability, it would also counter the countering effect:(

If you put Assault Suit on it, it will counter your opponents' spells for the rest of the game. I'm just wondering if there's an easier way to do that now

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Easiest way is just play Erayo Ascendant, no?

Just kidding. Shame the trigger is not optional, would be great to Dance of the Manse three of those into play. On the other hand, if you Dance in Lunar Force, Doom Foretold and Eldest Reborn, the opponent is can pack their bags.
I'm not at all up to speed with the pre-Origins cardpool, cause I took a big break from the game around Judgment, but looking at the shit I am familiar with, and since we're already in the three-card jank combo land,
I would definitely consider recurring it with Tragic Poet (and creatures are even easier to recur with all kinds of shit).

If you're bent on exploiting some kind of rules nuance, it still counters if the enchantment is no longer in play, so if you've got any reliably reusable bounce, that might be it.
 

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if you're flickering or recurring lunar force it's already quite broken, no need to overdo it with hard locks. I'd sooner look for ways to combat stuff it can't beat, cheap creatures and sticky engines.
 

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I think I made the strongest deck evah and I barely want to play it because I know people will steal it and it will end up a netdeck :/
 
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If you're bent on exploiting some kind of rules nuance, it still counters if the enchantment is no longer in play, so if you've got any reliably reusable bounce, that might be it.

Yeah, actually that's precisely why it wins stack wars. It will counter every spell the opponent puts on the stack, so if your deck goes off at instant speed, they can't respond to it.

Of course at 3cc T3feri also wins stack wars:(

So far the best partner I've found with it is Paradoxical Outcome. Which is nice, since it basically renders your Paradoxical Outcome uncounterable.

Oh, look. FotD and OUaT are out in Pioneeer. What. A. Surprise.!
 
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I just made someone exile every land, creature, and card in their hand in one go.
 
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