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MASS EFFECT 5 - yes or no

Padzi

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And if they do another ME. I want a prequel starting with First Contact War. They should also give a species choice this time. Human or a Turian as a playable character would be most desireable.
 

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Shepard or bust

I would rather see Shepard retired after ME3 ending than the space fantasy shitland they thought up in some fever dream.
I read some time ago how the writers saw what will become of ME universe after the Synthesis Ending (which was suppose to be best/canon ending).

I can't find the article right now but I found this concept art for post-ME3 ending setting.

These two are Human/Asari/Salarian hybrids. I'm not even joking :

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:prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper:
 

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Romancing the Bull was extre cringe, especially if you played as a Dwarf.

Bioware writing always ranges from cheesy to cringey. Mass Effect 1-3 are mildly better than average, but their tone in all their stuff is right out of a Twilight fanfic. I do give them some minor amount of credit for having the brass to let you play a sub inquisitor who has Iron Bull randomly fake rape her, though.
 

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The core concept of a Star Trek type RPG is solid, I'm just bummed out that the people that made Bioware great are gone. It's hard to be optimistic about where the series goes from here.

ME isnt anything like a Star Trek concept tho... never was. ME is closer to Star Wars.
 

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And if they do another ME. I want a prequel starting with First Contact War. They should also give a species choice this time. Human or a Turian as a playable character would be most desireable.
All prequels are stupid. There is no mystery or consequence.

Also, the amazing opportunity to have only human squad mates and only turian enemies sounds very exciting. :roll:
 

Luckmann

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KotOR III

We already got that silly, it's called The Old Republic.
The Jedi Knight storyline is actually based on Bioware's plan for Kotor III
:negative::negative::negative:
To be fair, though, TOR was basically KotOR IV: The Spinoff. Everything felt like an intended KotOR III was just missing in the sequence. By necessity, the Jedi Knight storyline was at best very loosely based on some general ideas relating to the KotOR III that never happned.

Too bad TOR crashed and burned. It was actually pretty fun and had a lot of potential, but apparently they had learned nothing from the failure of WAR.
Also, the amazing opportunity to have only human squad mates and only turian enemies sounds very exciting. :roll:
This but unironically. Race/species is a crutch for poor characterizations, at best. It doesn't matter what species a squad member is, and I very much prefer everyone to be human than to have some kind of galactic pokémon collection out of some demented principle. There is literally nothing wrong with a full team of humans blasting hostile aliens.
 

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Thing is ME3 already established a villain for future games while on the other hand made the ending totally incompatible with the idea of sequels.

So let's assume they find some balls and pick the Destroy ending as the canon one. Now we still have the Leviathans left. In my opinion they would be a perfect villain for ME4. They similar enough to Reapers to carry over the feel/atmosphere of Mass Effect and yet different enough to not rehash the story. Leviathans don't have innumerable fleets, don't have Reaperized armies and they indoctrination works differently. When they control a person it's very direct, taking over the entire mind and body and it's not permanent. Once broken the thrall becomes free with no lasting consequences. While Reaper's indoctrination was constant, lasting and more insidious.

Leviathans basically told Shepard they want to become the Apex species again after the Reapers are gone. And ME4 would be a great ground for that. It would be something I always wanted from ME. A game that deals with more political stuff/situation of the setting. Because while Leviathans can't steam roll through the galaxy with their superior tech and indoctrination skills could affect some actors of the post-Reaper era species to fight each other. Like another Krogan Rebellion inspired by the Leviathans or tensions that were already there but now got enforced.
 

Tytus

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Shepard or bust

I would rather see Shepard retired after ME3 ending than the space fantasy shitland they thought up in some fever dream.
I read some time ago how the writers saw what will become of ME universe after the Synthesis Ending (which was suppose to be best/canon ending).

I can't find the article right now but I found this concept art for post-ME3 ending setting.

These two are Human/Asari/Salarian hybrids. I'm not even joking :

569289.jpg


:prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper::prosper:


Reported for Prosper harvesting.
 

Padzi

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And if they do another ME. I want a prequel starting with First Contact War. They should also give a species choice this time. Human or a Turian as a playable character would be most desireable.
All prequels are stupid. There is no mystery or consequence.

Also, the amazing opportunity to have only human squad mates and only turian enemies sounds very exciting. :roll:

This is an EA game. There would be diversity in your team no matter what. You underestimate them.
 

DalekFlay

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So let's assume they find some balls and pick the Destroy ending as the canon one. Now we still have the Leviathans left. In my opinion they would be a perfect villain for ME4. They similar enough to Reapers to carry over the feel/atmosphere of Mass Effect and yet different enough to not rehash the story. Leviathans don't have innumerable fleets, don't have Reaperized armies and they indoctrination works differently. When they control a person it's very direct, taking over the entire mind and body and it's not permanent. Once broken the thrall becomes free with no lasting consequences. While Reaper's indoctrination was constant, lasting and more insidious.

Leviathans basically told Shepard they want to become the Apex species again after the Reapers are gone. And ME4 would be a great ground for that. It would be something I always wanted from ME. A game that deals with more political stuff/situation of the setting. Because while Leviathans can't steam roll through the galaxy with their superior tech and indoctrination skills could affect some actors of the post-Reaper era species to fight each other. Like another Krogan Rebellion inspired by the Leviathans or tensions that were already there but now got enforced.

This is spot-on, if they want to make an ME4. Bioware have made such a massive show of carrying over choices and not picking canon though, I don't know if they feel they could get away with it. I would hope they'd realize only a small but loud internet presence cares, but companies don't seem to realize that about anything nowadays.

If they want a return to Shephard, I'd say it's far more likely they reboot it.
 

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If they want a return to Shephard, I'd say it's far more likely they reboot it.

Just imagine the current year ME reboot it would be such a beautiful disaster. Done by the current Bioware devoid of all actual skill and talent, done by SJW ideaologs, done by the numbers through pure EA control. Focused on some live service model.
Such a beautiful tragedy requires at least 7 dumpster fire icons.

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(And this what ME5 probably will be)
 

Tyranicon

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Thing is ME3 already established a villain for future games while on the other hand made the ending totally incompatible with the idea of sequels.

So let's assume they find some balls and pick the Destroy ending as the canon one. Now we still have the Leviathans left. In my opinion they would be a perfect villain for ME4. They similar enough to Reapers to carry over the feel/atmosphere of Mass Effect and yet different enough to not rehash the story. Leviathans don't have innumerable fleets, don't have Reaperized armies and they indoctrination works differently. When they control a person it's very direct, taking over the entire mind and body and it's not permanent. Once broken the thrall becomes free with no lasting consequences. While Reaper's indoctrination was constant, lasting and more insidious.

Leviathans basically told Shepard they want to become the Apex species again after the Reapers are gone. And ME4 would be a great ground for that. It would be something I always wanted from ME. A game that deals with more political stuff/situation of the setting. Because while Leviathans can't steam roll through the galaxy with their superior tech and indoctrination skills could affect some actors of the post-Reaper era species to fight each other. Like another Krogan Rebellion inspired by the Leviathans or tensions that were already there but now got enforced.

Machine god Shepard is best villain.
 

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ME Reboot would be a nightmare it would be like Andromeda again but now as a trilogy. Krogan lesbians everywhere.

Look here - ME4 already done:


the_greatest_game_series____by_amillionforevers_d5155nb-fullview.jpg
 

Tytus

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Thing is ME3 already established a villain for future games while on the other hand made the ending totally incompatible with the idea of sequels.

So let's assume they find some balls and pick the Destroy ending as the canon one. Now we still have the Leviathans left. In my opinion they would be a perfect villain for ME4. They similar enough to Reapers to carry over the feel/atmosphere of Mass Effect and yet different enough to not rehash the story. Leviathans don't have innumerable fleets, don't have Reaperized armies and they indoctrination works differently. When they control a person it's very direct, taking over the entire mind and body and it's not permanent. Once broken the thrall becomes free with no lasting consequences. While Reaper's indoctrination was constant, lasting and more insidious.

Leviathans basically told Shepard they want to become the Apex species again after the Reapers are gone. And ME4 would be a great ground for that. It would be something I always wanted from ME. A game that deals with more political stuff/situation of the setting. Because while Leviathans can't steam roll through the galaxy with their superior tech and indoctrination skills could affect some actors of the post-Reaper era species to fight each other. Like another Krogan Rebellion inspired by the Leviathans or tensions that were already there but now got enforced.

Machine god Shepard is best villain.

Machine God Renegade Shepard you mean. Machine God Paragon Shepard basically fucks off after he rebuilt everything. It's the renegade version that stays put and makes sure "everything goes according to keikaku".
 

Tyranicon

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Thing is ME3 already established a villain for future games while on the other hand made the ending totally incompatible with the idea of sequels.

So let's assume they find some balls and pick the Destroy ending as the canon one. Now we still have the Leviathans left. In my opinion they would be a perfect villain for ME4. They similar enough to Reapers to carry over the feel/atmosphere of Mass Effect and yet different enough to not rehash the story. Leviathans don't have innumerable fleets, don't have Reaperized armies and they indoctrination works differently. When they control a person it's very direct, taking over the entire mind and body and it's not permanent. Once broken the thrall becomes free with no lasting consequences. While Reaper's indoctrination was constant, lasting and more insidious.

Leviathans basically told Shepard they want to become the Apex species again after the Reapers are gone. And ME4 would be a great ground for that. It would be something I always wanted from ME. A game that deals with more political stuff/situation of the setting. Because while Leviathans can't steam roll through the galaxy with their superior tech and indoctrination skills could affect some actors of the post-Reaper era species to fight each other. Like another Krogan Rebellion inspired by the Leviathans or tensions that were already there but now got enforced.

Machine god Shepard is best villain.

Machine God Renegade Shepard you mean. Machine God Paragon Shepard basically fucks off after he rebuilt everything. It's the renegade version that stays put and makes sure "everything goes according to keikaku".

Maybe someone will grow some balls and actually make a game in that universe, because Machine god Shepard is actually an interesting idea.
 

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If you accept that Shepard is core to Mass Effect and prequels are stupid, an elegant solution is to Demolition Man him. Have him cryo frozen until a time when the galaxy is in a state that needs a Space Cowboy again.

Though frankly, I would just retcon everything after the first one.
 
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Tytus

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ME Reboot would be a nightmare it would be like Andromeda again but now as a trilogy. Krogan lesbians everywhere.

Look here - ME4 already done:


the_greatest_game_series____by_amillionforevers_d5155nb-fullview.jpg


Everybody remembers Marauder Shields. Nobody remembers the real heroes:

marauder_shields_and_the_three_husketeers_by_mokurable_d4tidp3-fullview.jpg
 

Tytus

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If you accept that Shepard is core to Mass Effect and prequels are stupid, an elegant solution is to Demolition Man him. Have him cryo frozen until a time when the galaxy is in a state that needs a Space Cowboy again.

ME2 was basically this. Also Knight of the Fallen Order that expansion to The Old Republic has you frozen in carbonite untill the setting changes and you are needed again.
 

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