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Padzi

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I think that you are misunderstanding the pre-ME3 relations between the Geth and the Reapers. The former refused to be 'upgraded' by the latter not because they did not want to become like the Reapers, but because they did not want to use Reaper tech to achieve said end (whether out of mistrust for the Reapers or due to a belief that a peak AI should self-engineer himself to reach that point rather than being uplifted by an outside force).
Who said anything about them becoming like the Reapers? What I took issue with was ME3 anthropomorphizing them.
It didn't. Legion was an exception. You can specifically ask if Legion the individual still exists, and the answer is... no. Legion that was is now a part of the collective.
 
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I think that you are misunderstanding the pre-ME3 relations between the Geth and the Reapers. The former refused to be 'upgraded' by the latter not because they did not want to become like the Reapers, but because they did not want to use Reaper tech to achieve said end (whether out of mistrust for the Reapers or due to a belief that a peak AI should self-engineer himself to reach that point rather than being uplifted by an outside force).
Who said anything about them becoming like the Reapers? What I took issue with was ME3 anthropomorphizing them.
The Reapers themselves are anthropomorphized and the Geth perceive them as the pinnacle of AI evolution. ME3 anthropomorphizing them is just the positive conclusion for their arc within the trilogy.
 
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The whole problem is the ME trilogy doesn't have enough story for a trilogy. The Reapers aren't interesting or diverse enough for that. It's notoriously hard to write trilogies because one of them very easily turns out superfluous, so not having a clear arc from the start exacerbated the issue. Theoretically, it's a good model - each part of the trilogy corresponding to the classic 3 act structure. The issue in practice is that each of the acts aren't 33% of the story, and it's no wonder the hardest to write, act 2, more often than not turns out mangled. Shepard does the same thing 3 times, collecting allies in both 1, 2, and 3. That's why they needed to reboot the story 2 times, once with Cerberus and once back with the military. If I had to retain the skeleton of each of the parts, I'd do it like this -

ME1: Hunting down Saren and becoming a Spectre at the end of the game, which gives you enough influence to go searching for allies in the first place. You find out about the Reapers when you kill Saren, he warns you about them and tells you to find a beacon to prove it to the other council members.
M2: Collecting of said specialized allies with the authority of a Spectre backing you up in order to find the beacon, which should happen at the end of the game. However, seeing how you are becoming a bit of a power player and you not having a lick of evidence for these so-called Reapers, the Council hinders you at every corner.
M3: The beacon is located and there is no doubt about it - the Reapers are coming and they will be here very soon. Everyone knows this already and are preparing for war. Harbinger attacks one of the capitol planets earlier than expected and since basically nobody is ready for war, you are sent there to help out with the defense, but are unable to stop them and you flee the planet. This is when you go to Cerberus asking for their assistance and resources, they send you to sabotage the other capitol planets in order for them to be subservient to Cerberus during and after the war. Then the combined might of the entire galaxy manages to drive out the Reapers from the original attacked planet and blow up the mass relays the Reapers are going to use, so they can't come for another thousand years or so.

This leaves the ending extremely open to other entries in the series and the state of galactic politics in turmoil due to the now immense might of Cerberus. If I had to write the story from scratch, though, I wouldn't include the Reapers at all. Not every trilogy needs to be about saving the galaxy.
 

Padzi

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Re-introducing ANOTHER military bonehead in ME3 too.

YES! I fucking hate Vega.
I can't stand that guy.

...I also hated they gave EDI the body. At lease she's dead after destroy ending. God bless.
EDI is my robo-waifu

Damnit, Rusty.
:negative:
Why are you robot-fucker?
you draw porn of kai leng, your opinion is disregarded

Wait, I did? :lol: If so - busted. I need to check my files and rule 34.
I don't remember all crap I draw.

edit: It's not porn. It's just ugly shitty drawing of him.
 

Tytus

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Re-introducing ANOTHER military bonehead in ME3 too.

YES! I fucking hate Vega.
I can't stand that guy.

...I also hated they gave EDI the body. At lease she's dead after destroy ending. God bless.
EDI is my robo-waifu

Damnit, Rusty.
:negative:
Why are you robot-fucker?
you draw porn of kai leng, your opinion is disregarded

Wait, I did? :lol: If so - busted. I need to check my files and rule 34.
I don't remember all crap I draw.

edit: It's not porn. It's just ugly shitty drawing of him.

Show it to us then, you Lengophile.
 

Padzi

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Re-introducing ANOTHER military bonehead in ME3 too.

YES! I fucking hate Vega.
I can't stand that guy.

...I also hated they gave EDI the body. At lease she's dead after destroy ending. God bless.
EDI is my robo-waifu

Damnit, Rusty.
:negative:
Why are you robot-fucker?
you draw porn of kai leng, your opinion is disregarded

Wait, I did? :lol: If so - busted. I need to check my files and rule 34.
I don't remember all crap I draw.

edit: It's not porn. It's just ugly shitty drawing of him.

Show it to us then, you Lengophile.

Don't you fucking dare to steal my art Codex!
Made by me!
Begone fuckers.

I dedicade this one for Tytus and Rusty.

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Tytus

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Re-introducing ANOTHER military bonehead in ME3 too.

YES! I fucking hate Vega.
I can't stand that guy.

...I also hated they gave EDI the body. At lease she's dead after destroy ending. God bless.
EDI is my robo-waifu

Damnit, Rusty.
:negative:
Why are you robot-fucker?
you draw porn of kai leng, your opinion is disregarded

Wait, I did? :lol: If so - busted. I need to check my files and rule 34.
I don't remember all crap I draw.

edit: It's not porn. It's just ugly shitty drawing of him.

Show it to us then, you Lengophile.

Don't you fucking dare to steal my art Codex!
Made by me!
Begone fuckers.

I dedicade this one for Tytus and Rusty.

5218fab1c2854fad7dcaf850a5b6bae16ee31929.png


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Vatnik Wumao
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Kai Leng has fans?
All I can say is...
Good. You opened this message. This isn't actually asari military command. They're busy tending to what's left of their planet.

So you survived our fight on Thessia. You're not as weak as I thought. But never forget that your best wasn't good enough to stop me. Now an entire planet is dying because you lacked the strength to win. The legend of Shepard needs to be re-written. I hope I'm there for the last chapter. It ends with your death.

-KL
 
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Tali is easily one of my least liked companions. Never really understood why she's so popular, she felt like a knockoff more bitchy ME1 Liara.
 
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In my canon, Tali is beautiful yet weird and naive alien scholar, might even have a couple of tentacles here'n'there.
In my canon, all Quarians are dead. Legion and the Geth get to live and prosper though, unlike in the shitty (albeit less retarded than the alternatives) destroy ending that the devs came up with.
 
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They originally intended Miranda to be blonde as well, but alas. That particular design choice didn't make it into the game.
 

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BioWare just seems incapable of producing attractive people in their games. I for sure thought that there were going to be some hotties in Andromeda.

Man was I wrong.

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