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Master of Magic remake from Thea developers and Slitherine
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Zeriel
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Same attitude. Cash grab. They just don't care.
It's ironic that the "true to the spirit" 2D sprite reboots all have to come from indie projects like Wesnoth. Although... I guess that's not always true, there are exceptions like that new Fire Emblem style game on Steam that's highly rated. It's just that they are never produced by these studios that get the rights to the actual franchises.
HeroMarine
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No anime please.
Gregz
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A refresh of Xcom, MOO, and MoM are equally desirable imo.
Great Deceiver
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What do you mean by "refresh"?
Modern developers don't have the competence or skill to make comparable games. They can only try to ape what has already been made, and even then very poorly.
Master of Magic was a groundbreaking game when it was released 28 years ago. Seeing these modern developers try to remake it is like
Modern developers don't have the competence or skill to make comparable games. They can only try to ape what has already been made, and even then very poorly.
Master of Magic was a groundbreaking game when it was released 28 years ago. Seeing these modern developers try to remake it is like
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I can't see how the OpenXcom project is anything but the definitive way to secure a games legacy.
I have no idea what could be "refreshed" in these games. They are still refreshing to play as they are unsurpassed in their respective genres.
Though I think AI is something that could always stand improvement. Not even to make it more difficult, just more interesting and unpredictable.
I have no idea what could be "refreshed" in these games. They are still refreshing to play as they are unsurpassed in their respective genres.
Though I think AI is something that could always stand improvement. Not even to make it more difficult, just more interesting and unpredictable.
CthuluIsSpy
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There are many games from that period with terrible nonsensical UIs and controls but MoM is not one of them.
I went on a mom binge like a year ago for 3 or 4 months. And had no issues with the interface. It was pretty easy to play for what a 30 year old game?
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Thank God!
Hobo Elf
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I bought it. Don't really think it's worth the price, though. Even if it was a faithful and good remake it'd still be overpriced imo. The graphics aren't good enough to warrant such a hefty new price tag as the game is graphically uglier than, say, Warlock Master of the Arcane, a 10 year old game. The game also sports lots of memory leaks which means if you play the game longer for an hour it's going to start chugging pretty bad. The settings are also pitiful and offer nothing useful to tweak, really. Even the setting screen for the key binds is just a sheet for the hotkeys but you can't actually change them.
The second big thing that could've changed is the AI, but honestly it's not any better. Check a look at the pics below of how densely the AI is settling cities. Each game is going to be a Sisyphusean task of cleaning up the AI to win. Did anyone at MuHa games test this and think this is fine? It's not just that they settle so densely but it takes a long time to wait for the enemy AI to complete its turn, most of it is spent repeating the same movement paths back and forth as it can't seem to decide what to do.
What else.. the AI hates roads and engineers. The AI will spend all of its energy running after engineers that have been set to dig roads. This can be abused to stall armies pretty much indefinitely.
The auto resolve is also extremely weird. I've lost half my army of Ultra Elite flyer units against a single enemy veteran spearman. Not joking, not bullshitting, not hyperboling. There's an option to toggle on if the AI is allowed to cast spells or not during auto resolve, and I've seen situations where the projected outcome for me is worse with magic casting on. Just.. how?
The second big thing that could've changed is the AI, but honestly it's not any better. Check a look at the pics below of how densely the AI is settling cities. Each game is going to be a Sisyphusean task of cleaning up the AI to win. Did anyone at MuHa games test this and think this is fine? It's not just that they settle so densely but it takes a long time to wait for the enemy AI to complete its turn, most of it is spent repeating the same movement paths back and forth as it can't seem to decide what to do.
What else.. the AI hates roads and engineers. The AI will spend all of its energy running after engineers that have been set to dig roads. This can be abused to stall armies pretty much indefinitely.
The auto resolve is also extremely weird. I've lost half my army of Ultra Elite flyer units against a single enemy veteran spearman. Not joking, not bullshitting, not hyperboling. There's an option to toggle on if the AI is allowed to cast spells or not during auto resolve, and I've seen situations where the projected outcome for me is worse with magic casting on. Just.. how?
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Who could have predicted this.
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The Youtube comments are full of "looks awsum", "plz take my money!". Some guy is asking for an Xbox release. At least it's a relief to know I'm not the target audience for this kind of crap.
Hobo Elf
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Given how youtube is filled to the brim paid paid shills and bot commenters I wouldn't be too worried about feeling "alienated". Judging by GOG and Steam reviews it isn't exactly a stellar release among fans who actually bought it.
HeroMarine
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I love this game. A shame Warlock II didn't go anywhere.
Alex
Arcane
Yeah.
Although a building queue and maybe a way to quickly control city production without going into the city would be nice.
A re-assembly is nice, an important step even. But open xcom was a whole re-implementation of the system, which allowed it to fix bugs and to open up various functionalities to modding.
Did you try it with Renaissance Mod?
Damn it.
Is it moddable at least?
Hobo Elf
Arcane
Apparently it is very moddable so it's not completely hopeless.
Edit: I'd be more worried about the piss poor sales (only 85 reviews on Steam, for MoM?) leading to Slitherine probably cutting further patching and development on the game. The memory leak issues are real and I'm unsure if that is something that can be fixed with mods.
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