Microsoft acquires Bethesda/Zenimax

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

In fact, buy whatever you want NOW, then download it before it gets pulled from GOG and Steam to be exclusive to the shitty MS game rental service.

"But lel why would u ever want to have downloads of the games, Steam is perfect" - galaxybrains must be sweating bullets now if they haven't learned their lesson from the Epic Store fiasco.

Unlike GOG the way Steam works they always could remove that game you don't actually own but paid for like you do later.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

It's funny how easily Codexers line up for GamePass, when it is one of the worst way of DRM. Good luck paying for a game until the day of your death if you want to keep playing it.

If it's got a robust lineup of games you actually want to play it doesn't seem like a bad deal to me. People were probably spending more renting games from Blockbuster in a month (unless they had the unlimited movies & game pass) when they were around than the Game Pass cost. But that all depends on if they have shit you want to play too.

 

[Pegultagol]

Then again what they're doing with Game Pass I guess will mean you'll always have their stuff on PC. But then at some point I could see that being "Only on PC with Game Pass" as opposed to a true PC release.

Yeah, what's to stop them from releasing the next TES with mandatory Xbox Game Pass integration like Valve did with the Orange Box on Steam. In fact, it make too much sense to not happen. Game Pass is Windows Store in another garb, all the Xbox updates are done through it. And Windows Store has never done any good sales of games, if ever. And the system is split between Xbox the console and PC, releasing some games here, some games there, and to get best of both worlds (and offers), you'll have to get the 'Ultimate'. Does Steam or Epic have 'ultimate' option? Maybe they will think about it.

 

[Duraframe300]

It's funny how easily Codexers line up for GamePass, when it is one of the worst way of DRM. Good luck paying for a game until the day of your death if you want to keep playing it.

Spoiler

It's actually one of the easiest to *crack*.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

Say goodbye to modding.

This. This is what you should be looking out for.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

(Look how they've even evolved long fingers to better snatch shekels with!)

 

[Jenkem]

In fact, buy whatever you want NOW, then download it before it gets pulled from GOG and Steam to be exclusive to the shitty MS game rental service.

"But lel why would u ever want to have downloads of the games, Steam is perfect" - galaxybrains must be sweating bullets now if they haven't learned their lesson from the Epic Store fiasco.

Unlike GOG the way Steam works they always could remove that game you don't actually own but paid for like you do later.

name a game that was pulled from steam and is unable to be installed if owned prior to it being pulled.

the only thing being pulled here are tales from your asshole

 

[J_C]

In fact, buy whatever you want NOW, then download it before it gets pulled from GOG and Steam to be exclusive to the shitty MS game rental service.

"But lel why would u ever want to have downloads of the games, Steam is perfect" - galaxybrains must be sweating bullets now if they haven't learned their lesson from the Epic Store fiasco.

Unlike GOG the way Steam works they always could remove that game you don't actually own but paid for like you do later.

name a game that was pulled from steam and is unable to be installed if owned prior to it being pulled.

the only thing being pulled here are your tales from your asshole

Exactly. Such thing can technically happen, but it never ever happened. But in the case of Gamepass, you will lose access to all of those games if you don't pay up monthly.

 

[Black]

What does it mean for turn-based rpgs?

 

[Perkel]

It's funny how easily Codexers line up for GamePass, when it is one of the worst way of DRM. Good luck paying for a game until the day of your death if you want to keep playing it.

It is basically renting games for 1$ for whole month. You have to be an idiot to not use it if there is something you actually want to play.

 

[J_C]

It's funny how easily Codexers line up for GamePass, when it is one of the worst way of DRM. Good luck paying for a game until the day of your death if you want to keep playing it.

It is basically renting games for 1$ for whole month. You have to be an idiot to not use it if there is something you actually want to play.

Following this logic, what's the problem with other forms of DRM?

 

[Wunderbar]

It's funny how easily Codexers line up for GamePass, when it is one of the worst way of DRM. Good luck paying for a game until the day of your death if you want to keep playing it.

It is basically renting games for 1$ for whole month. You have to be an idiot to not use it if there is something you actually want to play.

Following this logic, what's the problem with other forms of DRM?

this guy is a fan of Epic store

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

In fact, buy whatever you want NOW, then download it before it gets pulled from GOG and Steam to be exclusive to the shitty MS game rental service.

"But lel why would u ever want to have downloads of the games, Steam is perfect" - galaxybrains must be sweating bullets now if they haven't learned their lesson from the Epic Store fiasco.

Unlike GOG the way Steam works they always could remove that game you don't actually own but paid for like you do later.

name a game that was pulled from steam and is unable to be installed if owned prior to it being pulled.

the only thing being pulled here are your tales from your asshole

You are aware you don't own anything on Steam, right?

Looking it up it seems a game called Order or War: Challenge was the first to be removed from players libraries in 2013. All free-to-play games that shut down. Whatever people had removed from that glitch this year. I was thinking they removed something outside of the US but maybe that was someone else because I can't given a article about it.

 

[Perkel]

Following this logic, what's the problem with other forms of DRM?

So i gather you don't use Steam then since it is also DRM ?

this guy is fan of Epic store

"fan" more like i like free games and i hate steam.

 

[Duraframe300]

J_C To add to my earlier statement.

Microsoft actually does not put much/any copy protection on their games leading to many same day releases and they do not use Denuvo (Which in its current form is nigh uncrackable for months). That includes their steam releases. They don't use any real DRM. (Might change of course)

 

[Lilliput McHammersmith]

I don't see how this is going to be worth it for Microsoft. I can't imagine how TES: VI or the space game will put enough butts on the Xbox whatever to justify 7.5 billion, and I don't see the rest of their games making up the rest.

Elder Scrolls Online probably makes a bit of money. I’m not sure if 76 has any players though lol.

 

[samuraigaiden]

I just browsed GameFAQs to see how they were digesting this news and was hit by stuff like "Bethesda only makes RPGs", "nobody would buy a console just for Minecraft" and "to counter this, Sony should buy Konami and make a new Suikoden".

LOL, sony fanboys are all boomers.

 

[Mortmal]

It's funny how easily Codexers line up for GamePass, when it is one of the worst way of DRM. Good luck paying for a game until the day of your death if you want to keep playing it.

Most of those games you will only play once and uninstall, you pick the gamepass for one month from time to time to exhaust what's good in the library for 10 euros . Without the pass existence , i wont even bother to torrent them either especially at 150 go like gears 5 , torrenting is slower and put your pc at risk with ton of shit repackaged into it .
The real good things you want to keep are usually indies anyway, for cheap .

 

[J_C]

Following this logic, what's the problem with other forms of DRM?

So i gather you don't use Steam then since it is also DRM ?

That's the point. There is no precedent AFAIK that a Steam game is removed from your library, and even if Steam shuts down 20 years later, at least I had that game for 20 years and I could play it whenever I wanted. With gamepass, if I stop paying the monthly fee, I won't be able to access any games.

I admit Gamepass might be good to dig through some small games you just want to try out. But if there is a game you are interested in, Steam or any other store is a safer bet, since you can keep that game longer than with Gamepass.

 

[dbx]

Steam has removed portions of games though. Especially music, for licensing shenanigans.

 

[Gerrard]

Can you fags please stop talking about "Obisidian doing Fallout" as if the people left at nuObsidian were any better than Todd&Co?

Hmm, I was betting that Microsoft will buy CD Projekt Red.

CDPR's worth is 9,8 billion $ right now.

 

[dbx]

People still belives Mr. Spreadsheet No Fun Allowed Soywyer to be good at making good games

 

[Mark Richard]

It's funny how easily Codexers line up for GamePass, when it is one of the worst way of DRM. Good luck paying for a game until the day of your death if you want to keep playing it.

Game Pass users are paying for the overall service, not the individual content. While not my cup of tea, I can appreciate that folks on a tight budget have been in dire need of a Netflix equivalent for gaming. They were practically crying out for it with Google Stadia.

 

[conan_edw]

Honestly if I was able to sell some of the games in my steam library I would've done it without second thought since I know I will never get to them or replay them. If I had $5-$10 subscription for them I would've been more satisfied since I really got most of them on a hunch or the thought that I'd be playing them soon but I never did.
On the other hand, I can buy whatever game that I like or know I will %100 play a good chunk of it and never regret that it's part of my catalogue. So yeah this Game Pass thing is really great.

 

[jackofshadows]

Saying "fuck game as a service" model is the most reasonable thing to do... except I got a feeling that gonna die/switch hobby too soon to care about long term implications, really.

Let them (MS) do whatever the fuck they want with these IPs, games, I don't care as long as I have my indie-games like AoD/Underrail.