Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord

[Alter Sack]

by the way...

what happens if your spouse dies (if death option is enabled)?

Can you remarry?

Well, it seems to be time to set her on a mule in her birthday suit and sent her on a suicide attack to find out.

Will report if I manage to kill her.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

6. I must be the only moron who thinks smithing fucking sucks. Everyone always goes on about how it's OP, but I just don't see it. You have to go out fight some looters or whatever, then you smelt their stuff, then you wait a bunch, then you make some two handed swords as those are the only ones that cost anything, and even then, they only sell for about 2k bucks. Who cares? In the time it takes to do all that you can flip some jewels and get a fat profit, or sack a town or a few armies and get like 50k in loot. Last time I played, I got smithing all the way to around 70, which was long and boring, and even then it barely was worth it, because I paid more in wages while waiting for stamina (even with the perk that cut the cost of waiting in towns) than what I got from smithing (and yes, I know about the orders, those usually suck too asking you to make shitty clubs and daggers for 500 big ones, and when the stars align just right, you maybe get 4-5k for a sword. Wow).

I hope they fixed this, but you get to the point where you can make and sell two handed swords that sell for easily over 90k (more than all the available gold in any town). And you don't even need more than like the 4th tier metal or so, not even the final 2 tiers of metals. A couple battles against lords will give you enough resources to craft like 5 or more swords (probably more if you are really minmaxing sword resources that take lower tier metals but still produce high damage swords). Not that you need to battle to get loot. You will make more than enough to just buy weapons, melt them down, and forge them into more valuable two handed swords.

You do need to get to like 100-125 smithing (I forget exactly how much) or so to get the perk to smelt the needed metals, but since exp gained seems to be a factor of how expensive the sword is, you will quickly level up to that just making the biggest and highest damage two handed swords you are able. Plus, on the way to the final goal your sword values will be rapidly rising. So long before you get to the 90k+ you will be making 10k, 30k, and 40k swords, which will already let you make a ton of cash really fast.

The most tedious part of that isn't even the smithing (using all your companions and family for the smithing helps deal with the smithing fatigue). Most of your time in the process is spent travelling around to 8-10 different towns to be able to sell the swords you made.

I really hope they have fixed this. I like the idea of making my own gear, but it really lowers the difficulty of the game when you can just crank out a couple swords and easily solve any money issues you might be having.

I haven't played in something like 3 or 4 months. In the version I played, they had tried to nerf smithing somewhat (halved the rate your skills increased from free smithing) but you still raised your smithing skill insanely fast just smithing the biggest and highest damage two handed sword you had the metals and blueprints for.

They really just need to fix their formula for weapon value to make it so two handed swords aren't so valuable. Currently, making a much higher quality one handed sword that uses the highest tier metals and is a masterwork with bonuses from legendary smithing will sell for only a fraction of what two-handed swords you can mass produce using lower tier metals sell for. Because the two handed sword has bigger numbers attached to it, so is much more valuable.

How about armoursmithing?

 

[ArchAngel]

This video has some really nice tips:

 

[vota DC]

6. I must be the only moron who thinks smithing fucking sucks. Everyone always goes on about how it's OP, but I just don't see it. You have to go out fight some looters or whatever, then you smelt their stuff, then you wait a bunch, then you make some two handed swords as those are the only ones that cost anything, and even then, they only sell for about 2k bucks. Who cares? In the time it takes to do all that you can flip some jewels and get a fat profit, or sack a town or a few armies and get like 50k in loot. Last time I played, I got smithing all the way to around 70, which was long and boring, and even then it barely was worth it, because I paid more in wages while waiting for stamina (even with the perk that cut the cost of waiting in towns) than what I got from smithing (and yes, I know about the orders, those usually suck too asking you to make shitty clubs and daggers for 500 big ones, and when the stars align just right, you maybe get 4-5k for a sword. Wow).

I hope they fixed this, but you get to the point where you can make and sell two handed swords that sell for easily over 90k (more than all the available gold in any town). And you don't even need more than like the 4th tier metal or so, not even the final 2 tiers of metals. A couple battles against lords will give you enough resources to craft like 5 or more swords (probably more if you are really minmaxing sword resources that take lower tier metals but still produce high damage swords). Not that you need to battle to get loot. You will make more than enough to just buy weapons, melt them down, and forge them into more valuable two handed swords.

You do need to get to like 100-125 smithing (I forget exactly how much) or so to get the perk to smelt the needed metals, but since exp gained seems to be a factor of how expensive the sword is, you will quickly level up to that just making the biggest and highest damage two handed swords you are able. Plus, on the way to the final goal your sword values will be rapidly rising. So long before you get to the 90k+ you will be making 10k, 30k, and 40k swords, which will already let you make a ton of cash really fast.

The most tedious part of that isn't even the smithing (using all your companions and family for the smithing helps deal with the smithing fatigue). Most of your time in the process is spent travelling around to 8-10 different towns to be able to sell the swords you made.

I really hope they have fixed this. I like the idea of making my own gear, but it really lowers the difficulty of the game when you can just crank out a couple swords and easily solve any money issues you might be having.

I haven't played in something like 3 or 4 months. In the version I played, they had tried to nerf smithing somewhat (halved the rate your skills increased from free smithing) but you still raised your smithing skill insanely fast just smithing the biggest and highest damage two handed sword you had the metals and blueprints for.

They really just need to fix their formula for weapon value to make it so two handed swords aren't so valuable. Currently, making a much higher quality one handed sword that uses the highest tier metals and is a masterwork with bonuses from legendary smithing will sell for only a fraction of what two-handed swords you can mass produce using lower tier metals sell for. Because the two handed sword has bigger numbers attached to it, so is much more valuable.

How about armoursmithing?

Since armors have only a number + weight while weapons have damage, Speed, lenght and grip It would be lame. They could use Kcd system: layer and different value for piercing, slashing and bashing.

 

[ArchAngel]

6. I must be the only moron who thinks smithing fucking sucks. Everyone always goes on about how it's OP, but I just don't see it. You have to go out fight some looters or whatever, then you smelt their stuff, then you wait a bunch, then you make some two handed swords as those are the only ones that cost anything, and even then, they only sell for about 2k bucks. Who cares? In the time it takes to do all that you can flip some jewels and get a fat profit, or sack a town or a few armies and get like 50k in loot. Last time I played, I got smithing all the way to around 70, which was long and boring, and even then it barely was worth it, because I paid more in wages while waiting for stamina (even with the perk that cut the cost of waiting in towns) than what I got from smithing (and yes, I know about the orders, those usually suck too asking you to make shitty clubs and daggers for 500 big ones, and when the stars align just right, you maybe get 4-5k for a sword. Wow).

I hope they fixed this, but you get to the point where you can make and sell two handed swords that sell for easily over 90k (more than all the available gold in any town). And you don't even need more than like the 4th tier metal or so, not even the final 2 tiers of metals. A couple battles against lords will give you enough resources to craft like 5 or more swords (probably more if you are really minmaxing sword resources that take lower tier metals but still produce high damage swords). Not that you need to battle to get loot. You will make more than enough to just buy weapons, melt them down, and forge them into more valuable two handed swords.

You do need to get to like 100-125 smithing (I forget exactly how much) or so to get the perk to smelt the needed metals, but since exp gained seems to be a factor of how expensive the sword is, you will quickly level up to that just making the biggest and highest damage two handed swords you are able. Plus, on the way to the final goal your sword values will be rapidly rising. So long before you get to the 90k+ you will be making 10k, 30k, and 40k swords, which will already let you make a ton of cash really fast.

The most tedious part of that isn't even the smithing (using all your companions and family for the smithing helps deal with the smithing fatigue). Most of your time in the process is spent travelling around to 8-10 different towns to be able to sell the swords you made.

I really hope they have fixed this. I like the idea of making my own gear, but it really lowers the difficulty of the game when you can just crank out a couple swords and easily solve any money issues you might be having.

I haven't played in something like 3 or 4 months. In the version I played, they had tried to nerf smithing somewhat (halved the rate your skills increased from free smithing) but you still raised your smithing skill insanely fast just smithing the biggest and highest damage two handed sword you had the metals and blueprints for.

They really just need to fix their formula for weapon value to make it so two handed swords aren't so valuable. Currently, making a much higher quality one handed sword that uses the highest tier metals and is a masterwork with bonuses from legendary smithing will sell for only a fraction of what two-handed swords you can mass produce using lower tier metals sell for. Because the two handed sword has bigger numbers attached to it, so is much more valuable.

How about armoursmithing?

Since armors have only a number + weight while weapons have damage, Speed, lenght and grip It would be lame. They could use Kcd system: layer and different value for piercing, slashing and bashing.

To be fair armors have armor value for 3 different body parts so that can be used as well.

 

[whydoibother]

Haven't played for over a year, how's the singleplayer experience now? Is it good for roleplaying?

 

[Peachcurl]

Haven't played for over a year, how's the singleplayer experience now? Is it good for roleplaying?

meh, I don't think there were any relevant changes in that regard

 

[ArchAngel]

Haven't played for over a year, how's the singleplayer experience now? Is it good for roleplaying?

meh, I don't think there were any relevant changes in that regard

They did add a bunch of content if you want to be a bandit and lead bandit armies. Unfortunately you cannot take over bandit hideouts and have your own criminal empire that does not care which lord controls the cities.

But you can have a wife, kids, make your own lords if you are a King and so on.

 

[Peachcurl]

They did add a bunch of content if you want to be a bandit and lead bandit armies. Unfortunately you cannot take over bandit hideouts and have your own criminal empire that does not care which lord controls the cities.

But you can have a wife, kids, make your own lords if you are a King and so on.

Ah, I missed the bandit stuff. But I think the waifu/kid/king stuff was already possible rather early on?

 

[ArchAngel]

They did add a bunch of content if you want to be a bandit and lead bandit armies. Unfortunately you cannot take over bandit hideouts and have your own criminal empire that does not care which lord controls the cities.

But you can have a wife, kids, make your own lords if you are a King and so on.

Ah, I missed the bandit stuff. But I think the waifu/kid/king stuff was already possible rather early on?

Yes but they added aging in the meantime and you can die from old age and then continue playing as your children.

 

[vota DC]

6. I must be the only moron who thinks smithing fucking sucks. Everyone always goes on about how it's OP, but I just don't see it. You have to go out fight some looters or whatever, then you smelt their stuff, then you wait a bunch, then you make some two handed swords as those are the only ones that cost anything, and even then, they only sell for about 2k bucks. Who cares? In the time it takes to do all that you can flip some jewels and get a fat profit, or sack a town or a few armies and get like 50k in loot. Last time I played, I got smithing all the way to around 70, which was long and boring, and even then it barely was worth it, because I paid more in wages while waiting for stamina (even with the perk that cut the cost of waiting in towns) than what I got from smithing (and yes, I know about the orders, those usually suck too asking you to make shitty clubs and daggers for 500 big ones, and when the stars align just right, you maybe get 4-5k for a sword. Wow).

I hope they fixed this, but you get to the point where you can make and sell two handed swords that sell for easily over 90k (more than all the available gold in any town). And you don't even need more than like the 4th tier metal or so, not even the final 2 tiers of metals. A couple battles against lords will give you enough resources to craft like 5 or more swords (probably more if you are really minmaxing sword resources that take lower tier metals but still produce high damage swords). Not that you need to battle to get loot. You will make more than enough to just buy weapons, melt them down, and forge them into more valuable two handed swords.

You do need to get to like 100-125 smithing (I forget exactly how much) or so to get the perk to smelt the needed metals, but since exp gained seems to be a factor of how expensive the sword is, you will quickly level up to that just making the biggest and highest damage two handed swords you are able. Plus, on the way to the final goal your sword values will be rapidly rising. So long before you get to the 90k+ you will be making 10k, 30k, and 40k swords, which will already let you make a ton of cash really fast.

The most tedious part of that isn't even the smithing (using all your companions and family for the smithing helps deal with the smithing fatigue). Most of your time in the process is spent travelling around to 8-10 different towns to be able to sell the swords you made.

I really hope they have fixed this. I like the idea of making my own gear, but it really lowers the difficulty of the game when you can just crank out a couple swords and easily solve any money issues you might be having.

I haven't played in something like 3 or 4 months. In the version I played, they had tried to nerf smithing somewhat (halved the rate your skills increased from free smithing) but you still raised your smithing skill insanely fast just smithing the biggest and highest damage two handed sword you had the metals and blueprints for.

They really just need to fix their formula for weapon value to make it so two handed swords aren't so valuable. Currently, making a much higher quality one handed sword that uses the highest tier metals and is a masterwork with bonuses from legendary smithing will sell for only a fraction of what two-handed swords you can mass produce using lower tier metals sell for. Because the two handed sword has bigger numbers attached to it, so is much more valuable.

How about armoursmithing?

Since armors have only a number + weight while weapons have damage, Speed, lenght and grip It would be lame. They could use Kcd system: layer and different value for piercing, slashing and bashing.

To be fair armors have armor value for 3 different body parts so that can be used as well.

You can use greaves with less leg protection but that protect your head but It would be strange. While localizing protection is good (in multiplayer they used overall armor instead of localized) give different protection is better. Another good example Is the old fallout 1.

 

[Jenkem]

expect big things for this game in 2022, lads

We're not even out of January and they've already fixed ladders.

Lads, we're going home...

 

[Zanzoken]

only 7 micro-issues (TM) remaining

 

[Lokiamis]

I didn't really expect this day to come, but Bannerlord has finally reached the point where I'm willing to say it's a better game than Warband. It's still missing a bunch of things that I hope make a return someday, but the new features have won me over now that they're mostly functional.
Right now it looks like we're moving towards stability and expanded functionality for modders. I just hope they haven't all been burned out by the years of updates fucking with their mods. The nexus is full of abandoned/adopted mods.

 

[Peachcurl]

I didn't really expect this day to come, but Bannerlord has finally reached the point where I'm willing to say it's a better game than Warband. It's still missing a bunch of things that I hope make a return someday, but the new features have won me over now that they're mostly functional.
Right now it looks like we're moving towards stability and expanded functionality for modders. I just hope they haven't all been burned out by the years of updates fucking with their mods. The nexus is full of abandoned/adopted mods.

I know what you are saying, but I don't think the "better than Warband" point can be reached without taking a very close look at the modding situation.

The base game may already be better, and with most other games this would be it. Not for M&B. Mods are essential.

 

[Zariusz]

 

[Modron]

Should have named him cabbage.

 

[Zariusz]

This also reminded me of the days when early access started, anyone remembers those op forest bandit hordes wiping everything?

 

[Perkel]

went back to bannerlord. I didn't play it since it went on early access and even then i just spent few hours fucking around in it and held it off when game would be more/finished.

Most of performance issues and weird behavior is gone, stutters are also gone. UI looks nicer and there is some QOL. Armory also looks much better now.

Is there any roadmap to 1.0 ? What they need to finish ?

 

[Barbarian]

So how is this game right now?

The past versions I tried had a really fun early game grind. Once you were powerful enough there was no reason to play and it got old real fast.

Have they added anything that makes late game interesting?

 

[Bloodeyes]

Is there any roadmap to 1.0 ? What they need to finish ?

There is no longer such a thing as 1.0 in indie game development. Patching continues until development of the next title begins. Then the updates stop. At some point the game may be declared "released" to garner more attention but this is arbitrary and meaningless.

 

[Fedora Master]

They will shit out a 2.0 version and declare the game "done".

At least then modders aren't getting their work destroyed because of a miniscule typo hotfix,so by 2025 we might get a total overhaul that makes Bannerlord worthwhile.

 

[Üstad]

Is there a mod to make non sword weaponry more diverse and better or perhaps make smithing effective when it comes to weapon stats? It's almost pointless to use axes and maces, especially if you are playing as cavalry. Smithing doesn't help enough either as weapon reach is still a problem.

 

[vota DC]

They will shit out a 2.0 version and declare the game "done".

At least then modders aren't getting their work destroyed because of a miniscule typo hotfix,so by 2025 we might get a total overhaul that makes Bannerlord worthwhile.

They even didn't disabled oooga booga free stuff. If you mod a troop even if you give a blank gear they get stuff from nothing because something hardcoded.

 

[Üstad]

I sent a companion to complete a mission but she still hasn't returned, she's holding instead of returning. Da fuck I'm supposed to do?