NWN Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition - Beamdog's final enhancement - now with new premium modules

[Joseph Stalin]

By the way - does anybody know why Valygar was switched to Aarin Gend? The former travelling to Neverwinter was foreshadowed back in Baldur's Gate II, and the visual similarities between the two are too much to be a coincidence. Does anyone here has any information on this topic?

 

[Silly Germans]

The comparison pictures look as if someone burnished and polished all metal surfaces and then decided to place a brown/grey filter on it while he was at it. It was ugly but functional before this, you could at least make stuff out, now its just ugly.

 

[Bad Sector]

The old NWN was T&L, right? I haven't checked in detail, but I think the new EE build is a lot more GPU-intensive even without enabling all the new bells and whistles.

IIRC the old NWN was OpenGL 1.1 with a few optional extensions - i'm not sure if it even uses shaders. OpenGL never had the concept of Direct3D's optional T&L, the API was always able to do that and it is possible that Nvidia still has that part implemented in hardware instead of emulating it with shaders, so if the EE tries to use shaders at any point it might cause the entire rendering to go through a different path.

But that is just guessing TBH. With OpenGL you just do what you think is right, leave the rest to the drivers and hope for the best :-P

 

[Voids]

What's the multiplayer scene like? Is it still active? Haven't played this game in ages but getting back into it with the new update.

 

[Infinitron]

By the way - does anybody know why Valygar was switched to Aarin Gend? The former travelling to Neverwinter was foreshadowed back in Baldur's Gate II, and the visual similarities between the two are too much to be a coincidence. Does anyone here has any information on this topic?

If such a thing happened, I'm sure it's just part of the general butchering of the NWN OC, as detailed here: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/nwn-oc-plot-was-cut-possibly-due-to-publisher-meddling.74097/

I imagine it could also have happened around the same time BioWare decided not to allow exporting characters from BG2 to NWN - cutting ties between the games entirely and starting fresh, basically.

 

[Gargaune]

IIRC the old NWN was OpenGL 1.1 with a few optional extensions - i'm not sure if it even uses shaders. OpenGL never had the concept of Direct3D's optional T&L, the API was always able to do that and it is possible that Nvidia still has that part implemented in hardware instead of emulating it with shaders, so if the EE tries to use shaders at any point it might cause the entire rendering to go through a different path.

But that is just guessing TBH. With OpenGL you just do what you think is right, leave the rest to the drivers and hope for the best :-P

I see, thanks, I don't remember that far back with the original NWN, that's if I ever knew it in the first place.

 

[Arthandas]

Which DLC is considered to be THE best?

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Which DLC is considered to be THE best?

The two expansions have the same main character, so you should play them one after the other. Ironically, the protagonist of the main campaign was banished from the city after the events of the first game, and didn't get a happy ending.

 

[Arthandas]

The two expansions have the same main character, so you should play them one after the other.

That doesn't really answer my question unless you're saying those are the best DLCs.
What about Wyvern Crown of Cormyr? I'm hearing only good things about it.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

The two expansions have the same main character, so you should play them one after the other.

That doesn't really answer my question unless you're saying those are the best DLCs.
What about Wyvern Crown of Cormyr? I'm hearing only good things about it.

It's alright, the jousting and what not is ok, but it's not gonna win any awards.

 

[Arthandas]

it's not gonna win any awards.

Which one will then?

 

[Joseph Stalin]

it's not gonna win any awards.

Which one will then?

The one with swords and magic, comrade.

 

[Cael]

it's not gonna win any awards.

Which one will then?

The one with swords and magic, comrade.

Sorry. The swords and magic got buried under the trannies and black lesbian ninja vampires.

 

[Gargaune]

That doesn't really answer my question unless you're saying those are the best DLCs.
What about Wyvern Crown of Cormyr? I'm hearing only good things about it.

I thought WCoC was very unpolished and lost interest partway. DoD had a much better level of fit and finish, shame how Atari screwed Ossian over.

As for the best, it's this one:

 

[Lacrymas]

None of them are very good tbh. Play Swordflight or Aielund Saga, or the Prophet instead.

 

[Voids]

I'm really enjoying this a lot more than when I first played it ~15 years ago. What's the mod scene like for NWN? I know this is probably an impossibility but is there anything that makes it turn based?

 

[bec de corbin]

There's not really anything people can do to change the underlying systems, though there's some big community pack that add new classes and stuff like that. I've never bothered much with that so I have no idea if it's any good.

But there's still people plugging away, making and updating modules. As easy as it is to make fun of Beamdog, I think they probably helped to get things going again.

 

[Poseidon00]

There's not really anything people can do to change the underlying systems, though there's some big community pack that add new classes and stuff like that. I've never bothered much with that so I have no idea if it's any good.

But there's still people plugging away, making and updating modules. As easy as it is to make fun of Beamdog, I think they probably helped to get things going again.

Indeed, Beamdog is a joke, but they did give the still-living NWN community a reason to keep going. I'm currently working as a team member on a rather ambitious Dark Sun project for NWN. Most of the 3D modeling work is done and the tilesets are being perfected.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

By the way, is NWN the only mainstream RPG where the main character does not get a canon happy ending?

 

[Cael]

By the way, is NWN the only mainstream RPG where the main character does not get a canon happy ending?

What do you mean?

In the OC, you got hailed as a hero and like all adventurers, sort of wander off into the sunset after a while.
In SoU, you disappear into the Shadow World to explore and stuff, only to emerge...
...in HotU, where you eventually take out Mephi and live happily ever after with your drow girlfriend.

 

[bec de corbin]

There's not really anything people can do to change the underlying systems, though there's some big community pack that add new classes and stuff like that. I've never bothered much with that so I have no idea if it's any good.

But there's still people plugging away, making and updating modules. As easy as it is to make fun of Beamdog, I think they probably helped to get things going again.

Indeed, Beamdog is a joke, but they did give the still-living NWN community a reason to keep going. I'm currently working as a team member on a rather ambitious Dark Sun project for NWN. Most of the 3D modeling work is done and the tilesets are being perfected.

Dark Sun is really cool, so that sounds neat. Is it an a single-player module, or is it one of those persistent worlds?

 

[Poseidon00]

Dark Sun is really cool, so that sounds neat. Is it an a single-player module, or is it one of those persistent worlds?

Both. There are essentially two teams, sharing assets. We're working on the single player stuff.

Feel free to join our discord, if you want to stay updated.

https://discord.gg/ZfPZVt

 

[Joseph Stalin]

By the way, is NWN the only mainstream RPG where the main character does not get a canon happy ending?

What do you mean?

In the OC, you got hailed as a hero and like all adventurers, sort of wander off into the sunset after a while.
In SoU, you disappear into the Shadow World to explore and stuff, only to emerge...
...in HotU, where you eventually take out Mephi and live happily ever after with your drow girlfriend.

The main character of the two expansions is a different person from the OC. It's confirmed by HotU by your former companions, where several of them mentioned the protagonist of the OC was banished from the city. And Aribeth, his former love interest, is dead. And in Hell. And possibly will soon be riding the cock of the protagonist of the expansions. And all his companions have remained in the city.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

let's not pretend anyone actually ever beat the NWN OC

 

[Poseidon00]

let's not pretend anyone actually ever beat the NWN OC

Not only did I beat the OC, I enjoyed it. The fact that most major characters end the game unsatisfied is one of the better things about it.