No Man's Sky

[Destroid]

Meh, I got absolutely no inclination to buy this game but it does remind me of the first Elite. Mostly because of the selling points. Big universe to explore, character to build up and the usual do what you want to do, which always comes down to explore, trade and fight. It's pretty much a direct spiritual sequel to the first Elite.

Hardly - at least the original Elite had good combat and didn't make my eyes bleed. This is sub-Elite after more than 30 years of progress.

and it still is the best you get today.


show me those other space sims that get released today?

Elite Dangerous & Scam Citizen.

 

[Bumvelcrow]

and it still is the best you get today.


show me those other space sims that get released today?

So anything is better than nothing, right? I'll eat shit and be grateful.

 

[Makabb]

Meh, I got absolutely no inclination to buy this game but it does remind me of the first Elite. Mostly because of the selling points. Big universe to explore, character to build up and the usual do what you want to do, which always comes down to explore, trade and fight. It's pretty much a direct spiritual sequel to the first Elite.

Hardly - at least the original Elite had good combat and didn't make my eyes bleed. This is sub-Elite after more than 30 years of progress.

and it still is the best you get today.


show me those other space sims that get released today?

Elite Dangerous & Scam Citizen.

i said released, and ED is widely known as the space truck simulator

 

[Makabb]

and it still is the best you get today.


show me those other space sims that get released today?

So anything is better than nothing, right? I'll eat shit and be grateful.

or you can play elite from 30 years ago

 

[shihonage]

Meh, I got absolutely no inclination to buy this game but it does remind me of the first Elite. Mostly because of the selling points. Big universe to explore, character to build up and the usual do what you want to do, which always comes down to explore, trade and fight. It's pretty much a direct spiritual sequel to the first Elite.

This may in fact be true. Elite: Dangerous may actually be the worse modern take on Elite than this game.

 

[Makabb]

It may have shit LSD graphics, only because it was released on console so the graphics had to be toned down for the massive proc gen to work, but underneath i feel teh elite

 

[Bumvelcrow]

or you can play elite from 30 years ago

A lot of people still do.

 

[Makabb]

Burning Bridges this is the game for you

 

[Talby]

Apparently they're adding base building and cargo freighters in a future update: http://www.no-mans-sky.com/2016/08/update-1-03/

 

[Robert Jarzebina]

this game wide as the ocean but shallow as the pond

 

[Makabb]

this game wide as the ocean but shallow as the pond

so is elite and privateer, your point ?

 

[Theldaran]

The only Privateer I played, "the Darkening", was likely an AAA title at the time, the same as the Wing Commanders before. No Man's Sky is an indie game built around the procedural tech that disguises as an AAA title, but it isn't. Not certainly in PS4 with its shitty graphics. We'll see if it's better in PC.

 

[Makabb]

Apparently they're adding base building and cargo freighters in a future update: http://www.no-mans-sky.com/2016/08/update-1-03/

and procedural cloud rendering tech written by Sean Murray himself

 

[insukk]

So the best part of the game is soundtrack made by 65Daysofstatic? Neat, I can enjoy that. On Youtube.

 

[ArchAngel]

I tried to watch this on Twitch, spent total 1 hour doing it. Damn, this game is super generic and you spend 90% of time playing mining from minecraft so you can get resources for crap you make so you can mine more stuff.
I lost it when the guy went into a space fight and his shields would not recharge on its own but he needed to put resources (that he has to mine) into them from inventory mid fight in real time so they fill up........

 

[adrix89]

and it still is the best you get today.


show me those other space sims that get released today?

So anything is better than nothing, right? I'll eat shit and be grateful.

You know what I am reminded of? As much as people harper on about X:Stillbirth taken as its own merits its a much better game then any of this pretenders

 

[Burning Bridges]

Meh, I got absolutely no inclination to buy this game but it does remind me of the first Elite. Mostly because of the selling points. Big universe to explore, character to build up and the usual do what you want to do, which always comes down to explore, trade and fight. It's pretty much a direct spiritual sequel to the first Elite.

No Mans Sky is 30 year old men with beards giggling about procedurally generated Teletubbies.

Playing Elite for the first time (and only if you happened to live in the C64 era) was an unprecedented, mysterious experience, like getting into contact with an alien civilization for the first time. Because you just could not know what would be out there, the game could appear to be real life for quite a while (until you realized how it actually worked but that's another story). Being used to 1,000s of generic platformers and sidescrollers, someone had given you a cassette with Elite on it in which you suddenly were given the opportunity of getting to other star systems without knowing what would expect you there. Then after you rammed into space stations countless times it became your only goal in life to make a successful landing and earn your first 50 credits. If you made it this far, chances were you would be doing nothing else for the next 1-2 months

It was the only game I ever saw that appeared to be more than I could understand (see above, it can of course only last until I had recognized all mechanics but it was still worth every minute)

 

[Makabb]

Meh, I got absolutely no inclination to buy this game but it does remind me of the first Elite. Mostly because of the selling points. Big universe to explore, character to build up and the usual do what you want to do, which always comes down to explore, trade and fight. It's pretty much a direct spiritual sequel to the first Elite.

No Mans Sky is 30 year old men with beards giggling about procedurally generated Teletubbies.

Playing Elite for the first time (and only if you happened to live in the C64 era) was an unprecedented, mysterious experience, like getting into contact with an alien civilization for the first time. Because you just could not know what would be out there, the game could appear to be real life for quite a while (until you realized how it actually worked but that's another story). Being used to 1,000s of generic platformers and sidescrollers, someone had given you a cassette with Elite on it in which you suddenly were given the opportunity of getting to other star systems without knowing what would expect you there. Then after you rammed into space stations countless times it became your only goal in life to make a successful landing and earn your first 50 credits. If you made it this far, chances were you would be doing nothing else for the next 1-2 months

It was the only game I ever saw that appeared to be more than I could understand (see above, it can of course only last until I had recognized all mechanics but it was still worth every minute)

What you are saying is just nostalgia of playing it for first time as a kid.


Technicaly NMS is just a more advanced version of Elite from 30 years ago, but if you knew how this stuff works back at the day, you would not be as amazed.

 

[Zewp]

No Mans Sky is 30 year old men with beards giggling about procedurally generated Teletubbies.

Bingo!

 

[Theldaran]

Technicaly NMS is just a more advanced version of Elite from 30 years ago, but if you knew how this stuff works back at the day, you would not be as amazed.

In the game's advertisements and Steam page there's no mention of Elite though, basically because today no one fucking knows about games released 30 years ago.

 

[Makabb]

And why would there be one? This game is not a direct sequel to Elite

 

[Burning Bridges]

and procedural cloud rendering tech written by Sean Murray himself

And it goes like this

public Cloud GetCloud(position, size, color)
{

//placeholder [SEAN]
return new Cloud (position, size, color);​

}

//main program
int numClouds=Math.Random(MAX_CLOUDS)
for(int i=0; i<numClouds; i++)
{

//reuse the same template we have in the rest of the game [SEAN]
Cloud nextCloud = GetCloud(Math.Random(double[3]), Math.Random(double), Math.Random(System.Color);
this.Scene.Clouds.Add(nextCloud);​

}

 

[Burning Bridges]

What you are saying is just nostalgia of playing it for first time as a kid.

Technicaly NMS is just a more advanced version of Elite from 30 years ago, but if you knew how this stuff works back at the day, you would not be as amazed.

This is actually correct. But with NMS I know what it is (unmitigated shit) from the first moment I look at it.

P.S. Technically we are in the same boat though. You feel about NMS the same amazement I felt about Elite because you are a borderline moron and it therefore all appears to be real to you. What you dont see is that it's just a sophisticated randomization loop, something we all began to program when we were in the first semester, until we realized that it does not generate meaningful content.

 

[ArchAngel]

Technicaly NMS is just a more advanced version of Elite from 30 years ago, but if you knew how this stuff works back at the day, you would not be as amazed.

No it is not. You didn't spend most of your time in Elite playing Minecraft on generic worlds.

 

[Theldaran]

And why would there be one? This game is not a direct sequel to Elite

It could have drawn people in, if Elite was a meaningful name today. Just as people desperately want to be like Baldur's Gate, if they're doing an RPG, not to mention a D&D RPG. Or like Watchdogs wanted to be like GTA.