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Who cares? The first Witcher was a piece of shit, anyway.
 

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Monocause said:
Oh, bother. If they got you to play someone else than Geralt, the rape would be much more painful.
Why? Geralt is an extremely unlikeable character.
 

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Zed said:
Why? Geralt is an extremely unlikeable character.

You haven't read the books and stopped playing the inferior English version during chapter one. But that's beside the point: the point is, if they made up a completely new Witcher for you to play they'd have to rape the lore to the point none of it would be recognisable anymore.
 

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will the codex review of TW2 be even more lulzy than the first one ?

The Witcher has heart. It has soul. If The Witcher sang the Blues, you'd want to listen. This is a game made by people who genuinely loved what they were doing, and it's clear that rather than asking themselves "How can we best serve the market?", the developers instead asked "Wouldn't it be awesome if . . .?" It has all the enthusiasm and the quirkiness (for better and worse) of an indie game, but the production values that only a multi-million dollar budget will buy.

It has flaws - plenty of them - but ultimately it's a great game. I have had more fun with The Witcher than with any RPG released in the last few years. The Witcher is not "game as art," as Planescape: Torment and (more recently) Mask of the Betrayer have tried to be. Instead, it is "game as game", something that has been equally rare recently in the RPG genre. There is a focus on gameplay, on RPG mechanics, on depth of setting and on immersion. The Witcher is enjoyable, addictive, and deeply satisfying, and I wholeheartedly recommend it. If the Codex gave numerical scores, I'd give this an 8.5 out of 10. Since we don't, pretend you didn't see that.

Gender confusion is one thing i can forgive on the codex, but genre confusion ???
 

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Codex is right. And The wither is the best piece of RPG we have seen since ... IE games.
Best of all, it was completely unexpected, coming from a small and unknown team.
I'm looking forward to seeing more stuff from the Witcher2.
 

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I see some people are desperately trying to fill in the gap after decline of skyway, but can't quite pull it off.
 

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Lesifoere said:
hoochimama said:
They certainly made his face more consumer-friendly, but those pretty looking graphics must require a monster rig, especially if you take into account TW1's performance vs graphical quality.
And, anyway, this thing's most likely going to be multi-platform and will have to be able to run on a Crapbox360, so doubt it'll need a monster rig.
Will be only on the PC for some months until they make a port for the consoles.
 

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but guys GUYS, theres a nude spell now.

NUDE SPELL LIKE THROWING ACID ON WOMEN SO THEIR CLOTHES DISSOLVES.

FUCK.
 

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ricolikesrice said:
Gerrard said:
I see some people are desperately trying to fill in the gap after decline of skyway, but can't quite pull it off.

how suprising.
Why so butthurt? I wasn't talking about you.
 

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Monocause said:
Zed said:
Why? Geralt is an extremely unlikeable character.

You haven't read the books and stopped playing the inferior English version during chapter one. But that's beside the point: the point is, if they made up a completely new Witcher for you to play they'd have to rape the lore to the point none of it would be recognisable anymore.
Who cares?
 

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Zed said:
Monocause said:
Zed said:
Why? Geralt is an extremely unlikeable character.

You haven't read the books and stopped playing the inferior English version during chapter one. But that's beside the point: the point is, if they made up a completely new Witcher for you to play they'd have to rape the lore to the point none of it would be recognisable anymore.
Who cares?
Who cares?

oblivion_002.jpg
 

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but guys GUYS, theres a nude spell now.

NUDE SPELL LIKE THROWING ACID ON WOMEN SO THEIR CLOTHES DISSOLVES.

FUCK.
WE CAN LARP BEING AFGHAN!
 

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But they were against playing as Geralt? or Gerald? or whatever, fucking name.
 

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Zed said:
But they were against playing as Geralt? or Gerald? or whatever, fucking name.

Geez.

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This. It's disgusting how they messed up the story just so the player could "omg, play as GERALT HIMSELF wow".
 
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Monocause said:
[...]if they made up a completely new Witcher for you to play they'd have to rape the lore to the point none of it would be recognisable anymore.
I can't say I see how introducing a new witcher protagonist for the game would have forced the team to "rape" the lore, or, for that matter, change any substantial part of the plot.

On the other hand, bringing Geralt back and going with the amnesia schtick (which I'm sure you'll admit is a little tired by now) didn't, in my opinion at least, fit at all well with the conclusion of Sapkowski's story. Plus, there were other drawbacks.

For one thing, it's not easy to imitate Sapkowski's style and using his own protagonist only serves to underline the difference. I didn't like the game's writing much, but what really bothered me was the way it failed to live up to Sapkowski's standard. (It's been ages since I read the books, but that was my impression.)

Furthermore, and this has been mentioned many times, Geralt's personality is a lot less flexible than that of a potential newly introduced character. If you don't like Geralt, the game's bound to be a lot less enjoyable for you. The problem is markedly more pronounced than even with The Nameless One (about whom some people also complained).
 

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Yes, so

a) rape lore so you can play as Geralt

b) rape lore so you can play as a new witcher

c) ... don't make a shitty witcher game at all? make your own IP and don't bother with fans of fucking books?
 

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Witcher´s chapters 2-4 were close to perfect action adventure rpg entertainment in my book and along with Mask of the Betrayer made 2007 a pretty damn nice year for rpgs. (PITA loading times weren´t gone till the next year, but still)
it also managed to capture character, feel and atmosphere of Sapkowski´s books really well.

hopefully the game retains the good balance between accessibility and quality of its predecessor and adds more to original´s somewhat thin rpg mechanics.

the new main character´s iteration looks a bit too edgy for my tastes which leaves me a tiny bit worried about the overall direction of the game though.
 

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Sapo doesn't give shit about his witcher IP aslong as they pay him, so if Sapo doesn't care why should the fans of the saga give a damn. Don't take the game as canon.

Geralt looks stupid though.
 
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DriacKin said:
Risine said:
Codex is right. And The wither is the best piece of RPG we have seen since ... IE games.
wut?

In terms of personal enjoyment, I'd put it below Bloodlines and about equal with MotB (if only MotB wasn't hampered by awful camera things would be different). I appreciate that Arcanum has a number of aspects that make it objectively better, but that's a game that didn't click with me no matter how many times I tried to love it - still enjoyed it, but it didn't resonate in the way that the aforementioned games, or PS:T/BG2/FO, dd.

But it's certainly up there. I certainly wouldn't object to folk calling it an action-adventure game with rpg elements, but genre aside I enjoyed it despite the tacky cards.

Incidentally, I wonder how many sales those cards lost them. I know they were the reason I was too embarassed to recommend it to my friends. Nudity and sex isn't a problem, but as soon as you mention the cards it makes it seem like a hentai game - I think it's the abstraction from the game that's the problem. Imagine how it would go over if you were watching a decent art film that happened to have a lot of sex/nudity in it, but every time there was a sex scene the movie cut to a centrefold image of the actress/actor for 5 seconds before returning. If they actually just showed them starting to have sex, with nudity in-game, before cutting away it would have been a lot less tacky. As it was, it's like taking nudity OUT of an artistically valid in-game context to deliberately put it in a pornographic/tacky context.
 

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Very poorly cut trailer, I have to say. Lots of reliance on unnecessary text (especially that which pertains to the score and sales of the first game), actual footage segments were too short and too dark with an annoying fade effect, jerky animations out the ass on those closeups.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the first game to a great extent and will at least give this a shot. I'm just saying that as launch trailers go--especially in the current advertising environment that exists for games--this one is pretty lacking.
 

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Current advertising environment...? Like "the new shit" trailers?
 

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