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[Silellak]

Is Silly Suillek crying because someone is proud of their work? Seriously, stop acting jealous. They can pimp their success any way they want. FFS

Is Volly Volerun crying because someone else is crying? FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFS

 

[MasPingon]

Geralt looks even more stupid now. Crappy teaser

 

[Volourn]

"Is Volly Volerun crying because someone else is crying?"

No. Just NERDRAGGGGGGGGEEEEIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hamster]

if they made up a completely new Witcher for you to play they'd have to rape the lore to the point none of it would be recognisable anymore.

Or they can use one of the other witchers in Kaer Morhen, since we know almost nothing about them they can do anything with such character and don't rape the lore.

 

[dragonfk]

Okey, so I have yet to finish my playthrough of TW and I wanted to ask you guys how major are the spoilers for the original camaign in the trailer of TW2.

kthxbye

 

[denizsi]

c) ... don't make a shitty witcher game at all? make your own IP and don't bother with fans of fucking books?

It helps to sell the game and supplies it with a setting that's probably better than anything the devs could develop by themselves. As a game, the Witcher was quite unambitious. But I think the license works to capture old fans and create new fans. If they released the same game without the unique license, it wouldn't have received as much undue praise as it did.

The game sold 1.5 million units. Just how many of those could be from fans of the books to have made any tangible difference, to have received "undue" praise due to the books? I bet the sales in NA alone must have made at least 500K units and I doubt anyone outside Poland gave a shit about the preceding literature or even knew about it.

 

[Gerrard]

Geralt looks even more stupid now. Crappy teaser

Magical botox.

 

[Grunker]

Okey, so I have yet to finish my playthrough of TW and I wanted to ask you guys how major are the spoilers for the original camaign in the trailer of TW2.

kthxbye

Other than "Geralt lives"? None, I think. There are a few hidden spoilers, but I don't think you'd get them, if you haven't completed the game.

c) ... don't make a shitty witcher game at all? make your own IP and don't bother with fans of fucking books?

It helps to sell the game and supplies it with a setting that's probably better than anything the devs could develop by themselves. As a game, the Witcher was quite unambitious. But I think the license works to capture old fans and create new fans. If they released the same game without the unique license, it wouldn't have received as much undue praise as it did.

The game sold 1.5 million units. Just how many of those could be from fans of the books to have made any tangible difference, to have received "undue" praise due to the books? I bet the sales in NA alone must have made at least 500K units and I doubt anyone outside Poland gave a shit about the preceding literature or even knew about it.

Pretty much. I bought the books because of the game, not the other way around.

 

[Lesifoere]

Okey, so I have yet to finish my playthrough of TW and I wanted to ask you guys how major are the spoilers for the original camaign in the trailer of TW2.

kthxbye

"The Order's rebellion has been quelled. King Foltest has been saved." That's about it.

Pretty much. I bought the books because of the game, not the other way around.

Ditto. Without the game, I would never have heard of Sapkowski.

 

[PrzeSzkoda]

Actually, I'm all nerdrage because the books could have been a real hit in the Engrish-speaking world (thanks to the game and its hype-campaign) but the translation's abominable. I mean, really.

But - at least it was consistent (as in: awful to an equal degree) with in-game writing.

 

[dragonfk]

Trailer was pretty okey. Or even more than okey. Much, much better than fe. emo-loaded Dragon Age. Also does anybody get a Sean Pean vibe from Geralt or is it just me.

 

[Black_Willow]

Without the game, I would never have heard of Sapkowski.

Well, I don't understand why people say he's such a good writer. The Witcher series is like "Pratchett goes dark n' gritty and losses 90% of his good ideas ".

 

[Lesifoere]

Well, his stuff--even with the butchered translation--is still notches above FR/DL writers. Not saying much, but it's something. As far as sword-and-sorcery goes, it's decent enough.

 

[Luzur]

even with the game, i never heard of him.

 

[Black_Willow]

It would be better if he just made books about a badass monster hunter. Insted he "turned a fantasy story into a modern - day morality play" (words from a very positive review in some Polish magazine). Too bad he didn't have the talent to make it less intrusive and more enjoyable.

 

[Lothers]

Hidden message from trailer (2:00)

EDIT: As for the books, Sapkowski's word-play is just faboulous, if you read it in polish.

 

[Bitcher]

As a fellow polish I'm very proud of these guys, they still have what it takes to deliever a game with mature story and full of spectacular combat, proving that they are immune to corporate priorities.

 

[Kingston]

A game created by a team of independent thinkers immune to corporate priorities, who don't care what's trendy at a given moment.

They're true mavericks. Finally we see someone stand up against the QTEs, real-time combat, dark and gritty stories and sex scenes imposed by the gaming-industrial complex. Fight the power, woo!

 

[Gerrard]

A game created by a team of independent thinkers immune to corporate priorities, who don't care what's trendy at a given moment.

They're true mavericks. Finally we see someone stand up against the QTEs, real-time combat, dark and gritty stories and sex scenes imposed by the gaming-industrial complex. Fight the power, woo!

So basically what this means is, THEY think QTEs and stuff are cool, and not that other people think it's cool.

Great.

 

[Grunker]

They could have hired a spellchecker. Jesus christ man, it's your official teaser.

 

[BelisariuS.F]

Hi.
This is my first post here but i've been following this site for some time, and before I say what I want to say I must say that you are an extremely frustrated bunch of people. Of all the websites I follow, the level of frustration here is the greatest.


Today at my university there was a conference about game development (very creatively called "Game Day"). One of the lecturers was Artur Ganszyniec (http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=41729). He was speaking about he design process of The Witcher.

I could never play past the first town in the original. Even when I tried the x-tra faggot edition, it was just too fucking boring. You had to run back and forth like a fucking sonic the hedgehog to complete the most simple of tasks.

He said that after they had made the first act, they realized that they had forgotten to put in it ANYTHING connected to the main plot... So the first version of Act I had nothing to do with main storyline. They were forced to quickly add some things relevant to the main storyline. Maybe that's why it's weaker than the next acts (for me, the second act is ten times better than the first).

It's disgusting how they messed up the story just so the player could "omg, play as GERALT HIMSELF wow".

At first the main hero was not Geralt. They had been creating different witcher, but during the process they realized, that he's getting more and more similar to Geralt, so they decided to just use Geralt.

Yeah, it's quite disgusting how Sapkowski himself greenlighted that and helped write the script.

Sapkowski gave some opinions, what's good and what's bad. He saw the completed game, said that it looks better than he expected, and that's all.

Seriously, quoting the Metacritic User score? Is that what we've come to?

Some other lecturer sad, that some company (Capcom, if I recall, but I may be wrong) uses metacritic score as a basis for evaluating bonuses for their developers...

even with the game, i never heard of him.

Because his books weren't translated to Swedish. Sapkowski's books were translated to Czech, Russian, German, Lithuanian, Spanish, French, Bulgarian, and only lately English (after the game came out). BTW: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/jun/19/1


Other funny thing.
At this conference, one of the lecturers was the head of Nicolas Games, publisher of Afterfall (http://www.rpgcodex.net/newsarchive.php?words=afterfall). Judging by what he said, it will be fortunate if his company won't crumble before Afterfall is made (and Afterfall becomes, as he said, Afterfail). He is a very merry fellow, who admitted that he knows nothing about game development (once, he was forced to get some expert from England to tell him that the game that some studio that he sponsored had been making, had "no fucking chance" of being finished), his company twice was at the verge of completely running out of money, but it survived because he is a smooth talker and convinced some investors into giving him money. He said that the estimated release date of Afterfall is 2012, but more realistic is "when it's done" (and you shouldn't think about Duke Nukem Forever at this moment...).

 

[Grunker]

Your post makes me extremely frustrated.

Besides that, it's pretty informative, but what's your point?

 

[dragonfk]

He just wanted to state that there's another Pole in this hole called RPGCodex.

 

[Sceptic]

before I say what I want to say I must say that you are an extremely frustrated bunch of people.

Before I say what I want to say I must ask kindly ask you to keep your sweeping generalizations to yourself.

So the first version of Act I had nothing to do with main storyline. They were forced to quickly add some things relevant to the main storyline.

"We suck at design and had no idea what we were doing, so we improved act 1 so it only sucks instead of being a disaster herpderp" is not an excuse. I'll give them some leeway since it was their first game. I thought act 1 was alright, the game definitely gets better with act 2.

At first the main hero was not Geralt. They had been creating different witcher, but during the process they realized, that he's getting more and more similar to Geralt, so they decided to just use Geralt.

I don't see why they wouldn't use Geralt. He was a p. good character in the books with some interesting and atypical quirks.

He said that the estimated release date of Afterfall is 2012, but more realistic is "when it's done" (and you shouldn't think about Duke Nukem Forever at this moment...).

Too late.

Welcome to the Codex btw. Enjoy your stay.

 

[Hamster]

It's disgusting how they messed up the story just so the player could "omg, play as GERALT HIMSELF wow".

At first the main hero was not Geralt. They had been creating different witcher, but during the process they realized, that he's getting more and more similar to Geralt, so they decided to just use Geralt.

And then they decided just not to bother with the fact that Geralt being in the game makes zero sense?

Btw, here is the witcher they wanted to use in the beginning:

http://www.ag.ru/screenshots/witcher/89361#show