Game News Obsidian Reveals 'Project Eternity' - Kickstarter Live

[Fuck_The_Banks]

VotS today's dumbfuck.

What is all this rtwp hate crap. when I played the IE games, you could set them to pause for everything; from never pause; to pause at the end of every d+d round to issue new orders; to pause under any of 30-40 different circumstances that happened to any of the party. It was hardly an rts, unless you were too dumb to rtfm or open up the options screen. Everything but the first instance is in effect turn (or fractions of a turn based). What is the problem, unless you repeatedly struck and dribbled over the spacebar like a retard?

Maybe I'm a cunt for pointing this out, but I couldn't really give a shit. This has got to be better than all the failed errections over DOS. Go and play some P+P after you learn how to make some friends.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Don't try to claim BG combat is worse than TB in Arcanum or Avadon.

Why compare it with crappy TB? No, it's not automatically superior, but the best TB is better than the best RTwP.

 

[MMXI]

I'm glad they are going to use RTwP instead of TB.

With Chaos Chronicles, Wasteland 2, Original Sin and Underrail we allready have plenty of promising TB-combat titles. Nice to see an upcoming 'old school' rpg doing things differently.

How can you have too many TB RPGs? Every RPG should be TB. Every single one of them.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

VotS making a valiant petition to bring the retard button back.

 

[misha]

discussion is making more and more funnier

 

[FeelTheRads]

discussion is making more and more funnier

How speak english?

 

[Infinitron]

Srsly:
Read the Gamebanshee interview with Feargus. This game will be a homage to the Infinity Engine games. RTwP is part of that.

If you hated the Infinity Engine games, you're not meant to like this game.

 

[Sleepwalker]

VotS today's dumbfuck.

Go and play some P+P after you learn how to make some friends.

Ouch. Feel the rads.

 

[Jasede]

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Hey guys.
Guys.
Guys.

This sounds like a terrible Kickstarter.

A) It's RTw/P
B) You can't create the entire party, just the MC.

Just like some other games we hate.
Like.

BG 2. (though you actually can make a party, but it feels like you aren't supposed to)
Or.
IWD. (though here you can do B for sure, but the writing suffers for it)
Or.

That other piece of
shit

PS:T



You guys are so fucking weird-
And when someone like me says that... well. You better believe it.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

This is really disappointing, they have an opportunity not to be slaves to market trends, and they choose real time with pauses?

RTwP has always sucked, you can never coordinate what your units will do to your exact liking, the pathfinding sucks, the action quickly becomes hard to follow or even incomprehensible, and area of effects spells are a pain to make.

Man, what a bummer, still interested though.

The music and setting looks utterly generic and devoid of character so far, though

Liked the bells at the end, I'd take a Disciples 2 atmosphere any day.

 

[Surf Solar]

 

[General Maxson]

Srsly:
Read the Gamebanshee interview with Feargus. This game will be a homage to the Infinity Engine games. RTwP is part of that.

If you hated the Infinity Engine games, you're not meant to like this game.

Well, I didn't exactly like Infinity games better than Fallout and Arcanum and other turn based games, I don't like that rtwp, but I could never forgive myself if I didn't donate to the stream of this glorious incline of crpg. And man, TIM CAIN (the man who gave me my fondest playing experiences ever)... I would give him my money no matter what type of crpg he tried to make (except mmo :D ).

 

[Brayko]

I didn't really like either Baldur's Gate so why should I like this?

I'm not really even talking about the RTwP, I'm not a combat-fag, it was more the shitty characters, story, and quests that turned me off, despite having some good ADnD mechanics.

Tell me why I should!

 

[Fuck_The_Banks]

VotS today's dumbfuck.

Go and play some P+P after you learn how to make some friends.

Ouch. Feel the rads.

I'm a badass with big man tits and an attitude problem....

And yes, my P + P friends love my tits, before you ask....

 

[Pelvis Knot]

Why compare it with crappy TB? No, it's not automatically superior, but the best TB is better than the best RTwP.

I will agree with this : JA2 has the best combat and is turn based.
I know this is the codex, but the reaction as if rtwp is the worst thing ever and a total dealbreaker is stupid. I pointed out examples of tb combat worse than rtwp. That didn't stop Arcanum being great. Why would rtwp stop Eternity from being great?

 

[Infinitron]

The funny thing is that RTwP isn't even a "market trend" anymore. Read a popamole forum - the people there HATE the pausing. They want real-time, full stop.

 

[Temaperacl]

Threw in a token $250 on principle and given some of the non-gameplay history of the participants. Given the RTwP and some of the other aspects, I would wait until I saw more details before I thought about upping my pledge, however.

 

[oldmanpaco]

I didn't really like either Baldur's Gate so why should I like this?

I'm not really even talking about the RTwP, I'm not a combat-fag, it was more the shitty characters, story, and quests that turned me off, despite having some good ADnD mechanics.

Tell me why I should!

To try to fit in with the cool kids?

 

[HanoverF]

If I donate $275 will MCA draw a codex troll with his signature?

Also need to find out if we can start a $10,000 codex fund to make Josh Sawyer get a codex tattoo tramp stamp. Get on it, Bee.

 

[IDtenT]

I think they could definitely eke out a few more $10k pledges from this quarter of the internet if they state that strip poker counts as a board game.

If they say no to that, you can just troll them by picking something like World In Flames (infamous for '100 hours' being a somewhat conservative length estimate) as the board game of your choice.

Obsidian, I won't demand any percentage of your extra 10k pledges if you put this idea into action. I work for the good of all.

Troll them and play Monopoly.

 

[General Maxson]

This is really disappointing, they have an opportunity not to be slaves to market trends, and they choose real time with pauses?

RTwP has always sucked, you can never coordinate what your units will do to your exact liking, the pathfinding sucks, the action quickly becomes hard to follow or even incomprehensible, and area of effects spells are a pain to make.

Man, what a bummer, still interested though.

The music and setting looks utterly generic and devoid of character so far, though

Liked the bells at the end, I'd take a Disciples 2 atmosphere any day.

I agree with you here completely, but wouldn't you rather start getting crpgs in the vein of Baldur's Gate 2 and other infinity games (like IWD and PST) than infinite Ass Effects and Dragon Turds (Although Dragon age is not THAT bad). I believe they can give something good. Too bad it's not more in the style I like, but I'm sure they're gonna get a lot more support by promising this Infinity Style game...

And another thing, Arcanum had shit combat, even worse real time, and it's one of the best crpgs I have played.

 

[oldmanpaco]

Threw in a token $250 based on principle and because I want to see what Obsidian can really do "without publisher interference". Given the RTwP and some of the other aspects, I would wait until I saw more details before I thought about upping my pledge, however.

If I remember correctly you donated a shitload for the W2 kickstarter and Codex fundraiser. Are you massively wealthy and just slum here to laugh at the plebeians?

 

[Gozma]

Rtw/P is a system that traditionally had no purpose after the first experiments with it to do anything but encourage both Diablo fans and TB combat people to purchase mutually suboptimal games, and later expanded to include people that can't get enough of that sweet MMORPG click-on-cooldowns action.

If the games aren't meant to be combat focused such that a design that's almost inherently so subpar can be acceptable they should just go full-abstract like Wizardry combat or something so I don't have to watch a party carcrash itself pathfinding to the next skeleton warrior or sewer rat or giant spider

 

[FeelTheRads]

I will agree with this : JA2 has the best combat and is turn based.
I know this is the codex, but the reaction as if rtwp is the worst thing ever and a total dealbreaker is stupid. I pointed out examples of tb combat worse than rtwp. That didn't stop Arcanum being great. Why would rtwp stop Eternity from being great?

It could be "great" for some. Thing is, for some people RTwP is a deal-breaker. I don't understand what's the problem. Likewise, first-person Fallout is a deal-breaker for some. Maybe they're looking for something else in a game than you are? TwinkieGorilla can cry rivers about how New Vegas is a true Fallout, that doesn't mean everybody should accept that the supposedly good writing is all that matters in a Fallout game.

 

[Stabwound]

The Infinity Engine games are good despite the combat, not because of it. It's like eating a great sandwich with a bunch of brown lettuce on it. Why they would strive for a similar combat system in their own self-funded game is a fucking mystery to me. Who prefers RTWP over other types of combat? Even Diablo combat is better than RTWP; it's a shitty half way point between turn based and full on action that is the worst of both worlds.

The game will probably be good, but RTWP combat is a squirt of diarrhea where there needn't be any diarrhea.