Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[FeelTheRads]

But is it really supposed to fund the the expansion? As I understand it, all the money goes to the base game. They just give the expansion as an incentive to get more funds.

 

[J_C]

Well the whole kickstarter thing is based upon paying for games which are not even finished.

Dude. What happened to you? You know I love Obsidian games as well any other popamole player on this board. What has robbed you of your common sense man???

I seriously don't understand what's your problem with funding the expansion in advance. I mean I won't pay 165 dollars, because I can't spand that much for this kickstarter, but this is similar to funding the base game. It's just the timeframe is a little longer.

There is more to that last comment. Your entire behavior on the issue of this game has been like a 8 year old girl putting her fingers in her ear crying LALALALALALNOTLISTENINGLALALALAL

Yes, because PE became the most anticipated game ever on my list. I lost my common sense, and I'm loving it. You should try it out sometime.

But is it really supposed to fund the the expansion? As I understand it, all the money goes to the base game. They just give the expansion as an incentive to get more funds.

Well it probably won't go to the development of the expansion. I think Obsidian plans to finance it from the profit of PE as well as their other games.

 

[Wizfall]

From Feargus about the expansion pack :
I don't think it will be Throne of Bhaal level - partly because Throne of Bhaal was originally going to be be BG3. It will be significant though - more than something like Old World Blues.
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Looks more like a DLC than an old school add on IMO.

 

[Semper]

But is it really supposed to fund the the expansion? As I understand it, all the money goes to the base game. They just give the expansion as an incentive to get more funds.

it is as you say. right now obsidian has to extinguish a lot of fires.

Offering the Expansion as an add-on can be problematic for figuring out the budget of the game. All the funds that we receive via Kickstarter and PayPal will go to the base game only. 100% of it. If we offer the expansion as an add-on, that total number gets confusing. I'll be talking to Feargus about it.

 

[Infinitron]

From Feargus about the expansion pack :
I don't think it will be Throne of Bhaal level - partly because Throne of Bhaal was originally going to be be BG3. It will be significant though - more than something like Old World Blues.
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Looks more like a DLC than an old school add on IMO.

Was Tales of the Sword Coast a DLC?

 

[Jaesun]

But is it really supposed to fund the the expansion? As I understand it, all the money goes to the base game. They just give the expansion as an incentive to get more funds.

All the funding that we receive from Kickstarter and PayPal will be used to make the base game - No money raised will be used for funding the expansion in any way.

 

[Captain Shrek]

But is it really supposed to fund the the expansion? As I understand it, all the money goes to the base game. They just give the expansion as an incentive to get more funds.

All the funding that we receive from Kickstarter and PayPal will be used to make the base game - No money raised will be used for funding the expansion in any way.

The wording is ambiguous.

 

[wormix]

There's really no difference between this and some of the other rewards offered.

This isn't Planescape, the physical goods aren't willed into existence.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Jaesun]

 

[J_C]

From Feargus about the expansion pack :
I don't think it will be Throne of Bhaal level - partly because Throne of Bhaal was originally going to be be BG3. It will be significant though - more than something like Old World Blues.
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Looks more like a DLC than an old school add on IMO.

Seeing that OWB offered a big chunk of gameplay, new areas and stuff, I would be happy with as much content.

Also, they haven't even finished PE, there is no way they know about the expansion. But, as many times before...Feargus gonna Feargus.

 

[Semper]

Feargus gonna Feargos.

a moment ago he announced free expansion for the 140$ tier.

@Ink Blot We also add the Expansion at that level.

 

[pakoito]

Was Tales of the Sword Coast a DLC?

It depends on how much you stretch the definition on DLC. It was "downloadable" and it was content, and it applied to the game for new stuff. You don't see expansion packs anymore, they are just called DLC. Take the GTA IV ones.

 

[pakoito]

Feargus gonna Feargos.

a moment ago he announced free expension for the 140$ tier.

@Ink Blot We also add the Expansion at that level.

Free? It has a $140 tag. It's not as "free" as those "get a free pen if you buy a television" ads. You are getting a pen and a TV for that initial price. Learn your marketing techniques, lad.

EDIT: Forum doesn't have doublepost merging?

 

[Infinitron]

Feargus gonna Feargos.

a moment ago he announced free expension for the 140$ tier.

@Ink Blot We also add the Expansion at that level.

lolwut

 

[Lord Andre]

Kind of lackluster update. Didn't really care for it. I am excited about the mega-dungeon. I hope it gets big enough to deserve the name.

 

[evdk]

Feargus gonna Feargos.

a moment ago he announced free expension for the 140$ tier.

@Ink Blot We also add the Expansion at that level.

Free? It has a $140 tag. It's not as "free" as those "get a free pen if you buy a television" ads. You are getting a pen and a TV for that initial price. Learn your marketing techniques, lad.

EDIT: Forum doesn't have doublepost merging?

It's free as in "I have pledged that already" so it's a win for me.

 

[Lockkaliber]

Offering the Expansion as an add-on can be problematic for figuring out the budget of the game. All the funds that we receive via Kickstarter and PayPal will go to the base game only. 100% of it. If we offer the expansion as an add-on, that total number gets confusing. I'll be talking to Feargus about it.

Need sauce on this

 

[Semper]

Free? It has a $140 tag. It's not as "free" as those "get a free pen if you buy a television" ads. You are getting a pen and a TV for that initial price. Learn your marketing techniques, lad.

besides the fact that all the funding is going right into the vanilla game without expansion - so there's no way you can "buy" (we're talking about kickstarter so the word is nonsense anyway) the expansion, therefore you're getting it for free. free in this context means that (probably the 140$ tier and) all tiers above 165$ getting it for free too because they don't have to up their pledge. now what's a marketing technique?! M:

Need sauce on this

right there.

 

[Infinitron]

POLL: Descriptive text vs spoken text http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/61207-descriptive-text-vs-spoken-text/

 

[markec]

I dont see whats the big deal, they are probably counting that the game will actually sell enough copies to fund a expansion.

 

[Nigro]

Offering the Expansion as an add-on can be problematic for figuring out the budget of the game. All the funds that we receive via Kickstarter and PayPal will go to the base game only. 100% of it. If we offer the expansion as an add-on, that total number gets confusing. I'll be talking to Feargus about it.

Need sauce on this

 

[Captain Shrek]

POLL: Descriptive text vs spoken text http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/61207-descriptive-text-vs-spoken-text/

It can't be or. It is either descriptive or descriptive and spoken. Either is good, latter better if they can afford it and do it well.

Well there is that retardation of ME where it means description has nothing to do with what is spoken.

 

[Infinitron]

I had a post wondering about this a while ago: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/61...tier-and-expansion/page__st__100#entry1230314

About expansion packs... I followed BG1's dev cycle closely at the time. After it shipped a dev commented (quite innocently) that Tales of the Sword Coast had gone gold by the time BG1 shipped.

There is nothing new about staging content without it being 'Day One DLC.'

 

[Semper]

i've to admit that the 165$ tier better runs then initially expected. 100+ backers in 2h ain't that bad.