Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[Lyric Suite]

- So those great literary works that defined what is or isn't transcendent are pure shit and decline?

I would answer that if i knew what you just said. If you mean whether any work of art that deals with the "human" as opposed to the "transcendent" or the "universal" is inferior then, yes, quite obviously. A Dickens or an Austen are not worth even an ounce of the genius of a Dante, or even a decadent author like Dostoevsky for that matter. But this is really besides the point here, seeing as Avellone quite obviously prefers to deal with themes of a universal order, something that is obvious even without knowing his inspirations, which include stuff like Zelazny's Lord of Light, a book which in its turn takes inspiration from Hindu-Buddhist mythology and metaphysics in the first place! You don't even understand the breath of your own ignorance, how am i ever going to make myself understood?

 

[Lyric Suite]

ITT we learn the Codex has never understood Torment. The more you know...

Not to sound like a panderer, but I'd love to hear the Lyric Suite-ian summary of what Torment is about.

Yeah, I'd like that.

Seriously, who else is with me on this? Would definitely read all of it.

Its been almost ten years since i've last finished Torment. I'm afraid my memory is too dim to do the game justice. But i remember enough to spot dumbfuckery when i see it.

That said, if Avellone is actually considering whether to write romances for this game, i would urge him to listen to the second act of Tristan und Isolde a few times. That ought to cure him out of it, knowing how much he loves opera.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

very human journey towards a very specific goal much like the Odyssey.

Has not actually understood the Odyssey.

- Would you be so kind and enlighten me as to how I should be understanding the Odyssey?

Homer was a theologician before being a poet, same as Dante. To wit:

http://www.latrobe.edu.au/eyeoftheheart/assets/issue4/homer.pdf

That paper reads like one of those postmodern "deconstructions", where being able to interpret a text in opposition to what it actually means is considered the height of critical analysis. I guess making shit up will always have the same stink.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Post-modernism is a parody of metaphysics. Thus ends the similarity. Post-modernism posits that there is no meaning, literal or otherwise, while metaphysics posit that the meaning is "beyond" what is visible and literal.

 

[ironyuri]

Post-modernism is a parody of metaphysics. Thus ends the similarity. Post-modernism posits that there is no meaning, literal or otherwise, while metaphysics posits that the meaning is "beyond" what is visible and literal.

Please tell me more about what you read on wikipedia.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Granted that the twentieth century was a extraordinary leap into analytical thinking

Nigga, please. It was such an "extraordinary" leap that intelligent thinking of any kind pretty much extinguished itself.

 

[Jasede]

Not sure why people get so upset about LS. The man is a Codex institution.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Its because they can't handle the troof.

 

[bminorkey]

REAL TALK: I don't think you can categorise Postmodernism like that, only Derrida's work and derivatives.

Oh, and BTW.

I fucking told you.

 

[Jarpie]

Some fucking idiots keeps wanting 3D gimmick support for PE, goddamn fucking heretics.

 

[tuluse]

Worse, no one even gives a shit about Authorial Intent now a days. The Authors tell you PLAINLY what they consider good and evil, right and wrong, good taste and bad taste.

Shitty authors do. Good authors guide the reader into coming to his own conclusions.

Tell me, was Hamlet right to not kill Claudius when he was praying? Was he right to want to kill him at all? Was Hamlet a thoughtful young man trying to do right in a difficult situation or was he a depressive crippled by his inability to make a decision? Should these question have One True Answer™ or should they be up to the reader to decide for himself?

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Some fucking idiots keeps wanting 3D gimmick support for PE, goddamn fucking heretics.

I don't know why this genuinely "On Topic" post after the last few pages of pseudo-intellectual diarrhea cracked me up so much but it did.

 

[bminorkey]

REAL TALK: I don't think you can categorise Postmodernism like that, only Derrida's work and derivatives.

Full retard is back. Post modernism PRECEDES Derrida quite a lot.

Did you even read what I fucking said?

 

[tuluse]

Oh, well yes in that case, we were talking about fictional works all the way up to this point though, so you might have wanted to make that clear.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Post-modernism is a symptom of a larger disease, a disease which has been gnawing at the flank of western civilization since the rationalism of the Greeks. Derrida and his Jewphosy is just one of the many post signs marking the last stages of the continuous free fall of western civilization into total and complete intellectual oblivion. If pragmastism was the suicide of reason, post-modernism is its carcass raised from the dead, a grotesque apparition which pulses as if it actually possessed a life of its own, but it does not. It has been more then half a century since any real "thinking" as taken place in the heads of western "philosophers". Western thought is dead. Finished. Finito. It is no more. Is has ceased to be, and went to meet its maker.

 

[ironyuri]

Jaesun

Where is your aggressive thread splitting when it's needed? Contain the rot before exterminatus is required.

 

[Blaine]

the continuous free wall

I lost it right here.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

I lost it right here.

He's talking about China now.

 

[Jasede]

Some fucking idiots keeps wanting 3D gimmick support for PE, goddamn fucking heretics.

Yes, when I wear a piece of cheap plastic glasses I feel like I'm really part of the action.

 

[ironyuri]

 

[Lyric Suite]

the continuous free wall

I lost it right here.

 

[tuluse]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/62076-obsidians-front-page-survey/#entry1268041

I picked Call of Duty not really as a joke, but because I've never played any of the other games. I don't have a frame of reference to form an opinion as to whether it should be more like Baldur's Gate or less like Icewind Dale, etc.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

do you guys even lift?

 

[Cowboy Moment]

You should read Foucault's Pendulum Lyric Suite, it might make you understand why Homer was not really a theologician.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

You should read Foucault's Pendulum Lyric Suite, it might make you understand why Homer was not really a theologician.

Stop it.

No need to make him suffer Eco's "masterpiss".

It's better than rereading Plato for the seventh time. Besides, I genuinely think he'd like it.